Caray, Caray!

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Anita: I remembered this Telenovela from a decade ago. Valentina eventually got her happily ever after with Jose Miguel, plud they had 2 kids.
 

Steve-
Try as I might, I can't remember the two kids, but regardless, it's always fun to see a meses despues or anos despues with the HEA couple surrounded by kids.

Example: Cuando Me Enamoro - Jeronimo and Renata ended up with Doc's twins and a couple of theirs--the last scene with all the kids squashing grapes in a barrel.

Amor Bravio - Camila and Daniel had visitation rights with Agatha (his with his first wife) and she was pregnant with theirs in the last scene.

MCET - Ana and Fernando finally get their blended family. I vaguely remember the last scene taking place in a soccer field or sth like that.

Do you detect a pattern here? All three protagonistas were portrayed by Silvia Navarro. We know she longed to have children of her own and she now has Leon, who must be 3 or 4 years old by now.
 

Anita...loved this walk down the aisle of memories and all those beautiful weddings. I commented in the past that the wedding at the end of Alborada was my favorite. The outside reception that followed was big farewell celebration for cast and crew it seems. Lovely to have so many happy endings. Loved it. Joy overflowing .
 

Susanlynn-
There is certainly something magical and nostalgic about the 18th & 19th Centuries to us. The reality was far different. There were more people enslaved or generations living in dire poverty, sick and dying, than the ones we see on screen living an opulent life. Still, we get to believe in it for a few weeks or months until the outcome gives us that satisfying finish.

I also loved the weddings in the three Carla Estrada telenovelas de epoca especially with the cast and crew in attendance. She also treated us to an interesting indigenous ceremony in Sortilegio. And I think it was Ignacio Sada Madero also gave us an indigenous ceremony in Un Refugio para el Amor (or maybe it was Patricio's send-off), although Jana and Lorenzo's Catholic wedding was certainly traditional.

Still, I think the pomp and circumstance of a wedding as El Fin is fading. Now, we sometimes experience one of the two leads dying, as in El Dragon and Amar a Muerte. I don't consider those HEA endings. OTOH, Televisa isn't Hallmark so there's no guarantee the ending will let us sit back and contemplate with a smile on our faces. Instead, we sit back and have to think about why they needed to end it that way.
 

Anita, thanks for organizing this weekend topic and a another thanks to Urban for all of the work she put into the various wedding themed posts over time. I am a relative newcomer compared to so many of you on the blog and have seen very few of these wedding scenes. I didn’t know that Jorge Salinas and Elizabeth Âlvarez had a telenovela wedding in “Fuego en la sangre”. Interesting.
 

Jarifa-
You'd never know it by their characters' interactions, but indeed, they were paired up in FELS, in somewhat adversarial roles, and that is where they paired up in real life. With all the children he fathered (6), including twins with Elizabeth, he's one we might safely assume he loves children and he has the money. Fortunately, thanks to Elizabeth, he still has his life.
 

Wow Anita, you deserve to graduate Summa Cum Laude from the Telenovela Viewing Grad School. Just amazing the amount of research you put into these weekend discussions. I will look forward to reading this and looking back at Urban's compilation as well in the days to come. But thanks for all the thoughtful work that you do.

I will say that I miss the more traditional stories and the Gran Final Bodas, but the world and telenovelas have changed dramatically in the 16 years that I've been watching. And the only way that I know it's been 16 years is that I started watching, and trying to learn Spanish, when our first (and only) granddaughter was born. Since then it's been two boys and another on the way. And a whole lot of changes in how characters are portrayed and grand finales are put together.
 

Anita,

It was wonderful viewing the wonderful posts, pictures but equally, the comments.

Pearls from our Carlos and Madelaine, both gone too soon.

Thank you to Urban for all her work.

My favorite boda was El Nombre del Amor. Paloma's (Allisson Lozz) joyous day yet tinged with sadness at the loss of her beloved Iñaki's (Luis Hacha) murdered by her aunt (Leticia Calderon). Oh, she also kills Paloma's mother! (Victoria Ruffo).

I also loved Al diablo con los guapos (again featuring Allisson) who married the fabulous Eugenio Siller.

I would add the Destilando Amor wedding - Gaviota and Rodrigo. The handsome men on beautiful horses and lovely Gaviota.

I must also note Amores Verdaderos because Eduardo Yanez (Jose) and Erika Buenfil as Victoria are among my favorite couples.

Finally, Mi Pecado (Maite Perroni and Eugenio Siller) as love triumphed against overwhelming agony and heartache.

I also add Pasion because of my favorite Susana Gonzales, who is my favorite actor.

And I agree that today, there appear to be fewer and fewer grand wedding celebrations. We must trust these is still deep and abiding love less the pomp and circumstance.

Thank you for the lovely stroll down memory lane.

Diana
 

Anita, thank you, this is a wonderful topic.

As a relative newcomer I haven't seen very many big TN church weddings, but I do love them. A beautiful woman, all dolled up and wearing a beautiful wedding gown, what's not to like?

But I have to admit, as I have several times before, that my inner prankster, or perhaps it's my inner feminist, is thrilled if the lovely bride hikes up her skirts and runs off. A trip home on a city bus gets bonus points.

I am a little disappointed to see that big church weddings are not as common as before. I would love to see how they might evolve with changing times. Certainly it would be a while before the Church accepted same sex marriages, but eventually they might be real fun. Not two guys, that would be dull as dish water, but two beautiful women would be a real treat.

Would they come down the aisle together for the wedding march or have separate entrances?

Would they fashion coordinate or compete? Two sets of gorgeous Bridesmaids? The possibilities are almost making me drool.

:-P

:-)

Andy
 

Thank you, Anita, for the topic and the selected boda descriptions.

EL COLOR DE LA PASIÓN - Lucía (Esmeralda Pimentel) & Rodrigo (Mariano Palacios,) long time novios, were about to get married when her sister Nora (Ximena Romo) sleeps with the groom and pressures him to say no at the altar. Lucía "hikes up her skirts and runs off." She does go on a city bus and pays the bus fare with the engagement ring. In the gran final Lucía has a wedding with Marcelo (Eric Elías,) who at one point was trying to seduce her aunt Rebeca (Claudia Ramírez.) This TN featured another interrupted wedding of Lucía's aunt, Magdalena with Ricardo, who did not show up at the wedding but sent her a brief note. Magdalena then marries a good guy, Mario (Pablo Valentín,) and after the wedding Nora shoots Lucía in the leg.
 

Thank you Anita and Urban A for all the work that went into this anthology. I have not dropped in at the Patio for a while, since I'm not watching any telenovelas right now, and was delighted to see this topic. Bodus interruptus is a great trope in telenovelas. Looking at all the pics and captions was a nice walk down memory lane. Thank you again!

 

Lucio--
Great addition. If you don't mind, I'll add it to the permanent record. Seems like it was all quite convoluted. At least it sound like they all got their partners straightened out before El Fin. I've said before, ECDLP is one tn I missed and now wish I hadn't. Thank you
 

Andy--
You can have your double brides wedding, I'll take a double grooms wedding.

We actually had one in Amores Verdaderos with Jean Marie (the Balvanera chef) and Estefano (Odette's son and Balzac (hehe)'s daddy) actually having a ceremony. At least we know Estefano (Archie Lafranco) and Balzac (hehe) will both be well fed.

Archie Lafranco was recently in Hijas de la Luna, which I think you watched (he was Sebastian's sperm donor). We had another well done male couple written into Corazon Que Miente with Emmanuel Palomares and Ricardo Margaleff (currently Agustin in Te Doy La Vida), but we didn't see them get married.

As for brides, I don't think we've had any actual weddings, but Amar a Muerte did give us a sympathetic pairing between Macarena Achaga (Val) and Barbara Lopez (Jules). Although we didn't see a wedding, they did get a HEA.

This theme is worthy of another Weekend Discussion. I hope someone picks up on it. UA also did one on this topic some time ago and it might be interesting to see if there are any changes for the better in the depictions.
 

Diana--
Of course you would accentuate the positive. You focused on all the beautiful weddings that DID take place, rather than the ones that either didn't or took place between the wrong couples. Thank you for adding your voice.

I'm looking forward to the double wedding in Amores Verdaderos, unless UniMas continues to screw up the schedule. It's been a fun ride to watch the whole run over again.

The most beautiful bride EVVA for me, has to be Ana Paula in her civil wedding to Rogelio near the beginning of La Que No Podia Amar, unhappy as she was with the whole arrangement. Little by little, over the course of the series, she was able to smile a bit, then more and more and thereby won her nicknames, Dimples and Cupcake.

The one wedding that finally took place between Blanca Soto and Guy Ecker in Eva Luna is the one that I remember most vividly. Her train was so long it practically went from the altar rail to the front door of the church. It was also memorable because they had a very tall pro basketball player have a conversation with them at the church. Blanca is so tall, they had to find someone even taller. All in all, Eva Luna continues to be one of my favorite stories. Even the side stories were very tolerable.
 

Doris--
We have certainly missed your voice on Daytime and Primetime shows. I think you would have really enjoyed Te Doy La Vida. It had little filler, most of the story was believable and Jorge Salinas, in his first ever villain role has knocked it out of the park.

I'm not sure if we'll get a wedding or a shoot-out in the last hour on Monday, but it's in Urban's hands and she can make it a great ending either way.

Come back soon!
 

I was just remembering the wedding of Matiode ( Adele Noriega) and Manuel ( Fernando Colunga)in Amor Real. Adele made a beautiful bride in her extravagant gown that looked like a meringue , but it was a marriage of convenience pushed inner y her mother (Helen Rojas) to rescue the family who had fallen on hard times. Matilde tried to escape with the guy she was in love with . Manuel who was in love with her put a stop to that and whisked her off to his hacienda. It was not a good start to the marriage not helped by Manuels harsh attitude.
 

Susanlynn--I'm glad you described Matilde and Manuel's wedding. Yes, she was a beautiful bride. We already know that the premise of what you retold was used as a basis for Lo Que La Vida Me Robo. However, it can also describe perfectly what Rogelio did to Ana Paula in La Que No Podia Amar (minus the forced sex on their wedding night). Tia Rosaura sort of played the part of the pushy mother in Amor Real, for her own benefit. AP probably wouldn't have gone through with it had Gus not disappeared and Rogelio and Bruno not pushed her into a corner with her brother's troubles with the law and the dire medical attention he needed.
 

ANITA, of all the weddings I have seen, the one in Refugio impressed me the most. I was stunned seeing the shaman officiating the union, and the setting on the cliffs overlooking the valley below was equally stunning. I kept worrying that one, or all of the three, would fall off...but other than that!

But what was equally stunning was the reaction of one of the viewers posted on the line who thought the whole event was weird and stupid. Perhaps the most dramatic example of how individual reactions vary. Time and time again I have "learned that lesson" as we watch these stories together (in a way) and see very diverse responses to characters and storylines.

I have finally learned not to react internally with "But HOW can you think that!!!!?????" and just accept that everyone lives in their own head and in different worlds.
 

Judyb...different attitudes are constantly evident at thelitforum where people discuss Outlander. It always amazes me how different readers and viewers interpret the characters and story lines in The books and tv show.
 

It's been a real eye-opener for me Susanlynn. For some reason I just assumed people would react the way I did, so CarayCaray has been a really important educational tool for me. Not just for Spanish but for my EQ! Better and cheaper than therapy!
 

Judy and Susanlynn--
As to opposing interpretations, all we need to do is to think of our Dear Dr. Carlos. I never knew if his comments and defenses of the "bad" girls were tongue in cheek or whether he really enjoyed riling us up. Same goes for our Outspoken Floridian, Kirby, whom we all know, love and miss. Andy is the newest contrarian, but is HE the contrarian or are WE? Depends on the point of view, duh!

What a dull forum this would be if everyone agreed on every character in every story--whether it's a 16 year devotion, 10, or just in the last 3 or 4.
 

Anita, interesting comment on "contrarians". Especially interesting that the three you mention are all male.

Coincidence?

:-)

Andy
 

Andy—I was hoping you wouldn’t notice the gender, but indeed, it did stand out after I wrote it. I chose not to point it out. To be truthful, without doing a lot more research, I couldn’t think of an instance where women differed—until tonight. Catching up on the AV recaps we had a difference of opinion over who was on “Team Chrissy” and who was on “Team Vikki” regarding who would win Arriaga. Each side had very valid reasons. So my statement still stands.......sort of.
 

Well here's my take on it. Carlos was definitely teasing. He used to do that about "lie" and "lay" and various grammar disputes as well. Then he'd sit back and watch the righteous uproar. Andy very similar. Both reminded me of my younger brother. And Kirby seemed to love to make outrageous statements just for the helluva it. And sometimes set up seismic reactions.

The gals, on the other hand, when they disagreed, were dead serious. They were arguing because of something painful in their past which was triggered by a particular situation in a novela. I certainly found out about all my "squishy spots" when I started watching these stories. Women don't shrug off their emotional pain easily and sooner or later these dramatic tales are going to set something off.

But that's why the teasing--if it's friendly rather than unkind-- helps. If these rascals can get us to laugh at ourselves, we're already better off.

I miss Carlos so much. And unfortunately Andy isn't watching anything that I am currently. I certainly enjoyed sparring with him in Sin Tu Mirada. Even our outrageous Kirby who cycles in and out of these but mostly seems interested in the more violent narconovelas.

But so it goes. People drift in and out of these forums, depending on what's going on in their own lives.

But again ANITA, thanks for all the hard work you put in for this topic. And of course for providing links to URBAN'S hard work as well.