Wednesday, February 18, 2015
La Sombra del Pasado #2-3 - Wed 2/18 - A vigil, a tryst, and oops, somebody left the barn door open
Padre Sixto saw the illicit snogging and refused to buy any of Severiano's excuses for it. Roberta stayed home from church to sneak off and meet Severiano in their "usual spot" (a barn). Severiano tried to stay home from church, but succumbed to Candela's whining…and thus got treated to a fiery sermon from the Padre about how you can pretend to be good all you want, but GOD KNOWS WHAT YOU'VE DONE! Adelina is suspicious about Roberta and sends Raymundo out for milk before he can come inside the house after church. Roberta had left the baby alone all day/afternoon to wait for Severiano, who never showed. Dominga has gifted both babies scapulars of Nuestra Señora del Carmen, but Candela would prefer that Cristobal not have anything around his neck. Raymundo comes back to the house for his wallet and hears Adelina and Roberta talking about him finding out something. Roberta deflects by saying Adelina has a crush on him, which prompts Adelina to cut her visit short out of embarrassment. Severiano waits for Padre Sixto to be alone in the church and attempts to bribe him. When that doesn't work, he chokes him to death. Raymundo was out on his milk (formula) run and may have seen Severiano leaving the church. Prudencia has been collecting gossip about Roberta all day and Humberto warns her not to go visit Roberta or Candela will find out--and she won't be happy. Back at home, Severiano tells Candela that Padre Sixto asked to see him to try to get money for some repairs around the church and accepted her invitation to come over for breakfast in the morning. When he doesn't show up, Candela insists on going to town to check on him. She and Doña Lourdes (the caretaker) find the body.
Tonight:
Humberto swallows his pride and asks Severiano if he's come up with a way that Humberto can stay in town. Severiano has been, ahem, busy, but he perks up and asks if Humberto is serious about how very, very loyal he can be. They're interrupted by Candela calling to say the Padre is dead and they head for the church.
Prudencia sucks up to Dominga, but screws it up by plucking the flowers off her plants. They get to talking about the gorgeous, gorgeous Santuario, that happens to be owned by Roberta and Raymundo.
Roberta has a picture of Severiano from the newspaper hidden away in a little box in her room…she kisses it, but then rips it up. She hears Aldonza crying and finds that Adelina changed her mind and decided to stay. She and the baby are used to each other. Plus she doesn't want to leave while Roberta is busy trying to screw up the good thing she has going with Raymundo.
Severiano and Humberto get to the church and Humberto confirms that Padre Sixto is dead. Severiano suggests the ladies leave him and Humberto to deal with things there, so Candela takes Doña Lourdes home. Severiano pressures Humberto to sign the death certificate, lying that Padre Sixto was complaining about a pain in his arm last night, so CLEARLY Padre died from 100% natural reasons, and that the town doctor is a drunk. Desperate Humberto succumbs to the allure of being the new town doctor and goes back to Severiano's house to get a copy of his medical license.
Prudencia has also succumbed…to her insatiable need for gossip…and gone over to ask Raymundo for permission to check out his pretty, pretty waterfalls. Roberta tells him that Prudencia is related to Severiano and Candela and when Prudencia brings up Roberta's visit to Las Animas yesterday, Raymundo assumes Prudencia is just trying to cause trouble. He throws her out.
Candela cries and tells Dominga about the Padre dying. Dominga is suspicious and asking questions about exactly when the Padre died and why they're assuming it was last night, as opposed to this morning, but her questions die off.
Roberta tells Raymundo she only went over there to confront Severiano about his lies. She's sure he only said she was ho'ing around to convince Raymundo to sell him El Santuario. Raymundo believes her, but wants her to stay away from Las Animas, and to swear it on their daughter. She won't, of course, but agrees to swear on Raymundo's life. It's been nice knowing you, dude.
Dominga wonders if Raymundo's brother Geronimo will be put in charge of the parish. Candela's not thrilled with the idea.
Raymundo, Roberta, and Adelina are having breakfast when Joaquin, the ranch foreman, comes in to make eyes at Adelina…I mean, to tell them that Padre Sixto is dead. Raymundo is shocked, but is sure Padre Sixto was still alive at 9pm because he saw Severiano leaving the church at that time. Roberta freaks out and blames it on the shock…she practically runs out of the room.
The town is gathering outside, waiting for news about the Padre. Severiano lays out in subtle and not-so-subtle hints that the Padre died of a heart attack, right? And there's no reason for the cops to be involved, right? And it would be terribly undignified to have to cart the body all over for autopsies and such, right? So it's really best if the reason listed on the death certificate is "heart attack" right? And Humberto understands that this is the kind of loyalty Severiano was talking about, and knows he'll be amply rewarded for it, right? Humberto doesn't seem to be suspicious at all as he agrees to this. Severiano says he'll go out and start making funeral arrangements and placating the populace. Humberto takes another look at the Padre's body, this time removing his collar, and finally, the lightbulb goes on.
Outside, a crowd so large that I have a hard time believing they all (a) actually live in this town and (b) didn't have anything more important to do, have gathered and are clamoring for news. One of the crowd at least confirms that the town doctor is, in fact, a drunk. Severiano makes good on at least one of his promises/predictions and says he called in another doctor to examine the Padre. The Padre did, in fact, die of a heart attack, and they'll hold his vigil later, and Severiano will take care of everything, ok? The crowd agrees.
Humberto comes back to Severiano's office at the house to tell him that the funeral home has already picked up the Padre's body, but he hasn't submitted the death certificate yet. "Which one do you want me to use? The one you told me to write up or the real one?" Sev pretends to be confused. "Padre Sixto didn't die of a heart attack. He died of asphyxiation. The marks are faint, but I saw them. And I have a feeling you knew they were there, too." Ooh, Humberto, I took you for a spineless toady! You've just been upgraded to blackmailer! Humberto noticed Severiano's insistence on Padre dying a natural death. Severiano starts to sow doubt, repeating the lie about the arm pain…and then adding that it wouldn't be the first time Humberto has given a wrong diagnosis. See, Severiano knows exactly what happened back in Los Olivos…Humberto misdiagnosed a child who later died and no one trusts him now. Candela interrupts their conversation and wonders about the looks on their faces. Severiano says Humberto was just telling him about the Padre's death…ain't that right, Humberto? Humberto glumly agrees the Padre died of a heart attack. Once Candela leaves, Humberto hands the accurate death certificate to Severiano and Severiano rips it up and burns it.
Subtle characterization or mistake in the editing room? The top of one thigh-high stocking is visible under Roberta's skirt as she mopes around in bed. She doesn't want to go to Padre's vigil because she's sooooooo upset. Raymundo says she does this all the time--complains about everyone treating her badly and ignoring her, but then something important happens and she wants to skip it. When she tries to use the baby as an excuse, he tells her that Adelina can stay with the Aldonza. Backed into a corner, Roberta agrees to go.
Humberto finds Prudencia in their room with Cristobal. Since everyone else wanted to go to the vigil, she offered to stay with the baby. Humberto is in no mood to listen to her lighthearted chatter about wanting to have a little girl to grow up with Cristobal. He gets even more upset when she says he shouldn't be bothered by death, because he's lost a bunch of patients already. Ouch!
Raymundo tells Adelina that he hasn't seen his brother, Geronimo, very much since his brother went off to the seminary. It's why he's glad that Adelina is there with Roberta. Roberta finally comes downstairs and they head off to the vigil.
Humberto tells Prudencia that Severiano knows what happened in Los Olivos, but he's going to help them, "especially now." For once, Prudencia's gossip radar doesn't ping and she limits herself to asking what the Padre died of, shrugging it all off, and taking the baby back to his crib.
Candela leads a prayer, asking the Virgen, by her many titles and attributes, to pray for Padre Sixto. Severiano is most assuredly not praying along with the rest of the congregation. Mr. 5ft wonders why she's leading the prayer. My explanation for that is the same as the reason why the town were all content to have Severiano take over all the funeral arrangements, accept his explanation of the Padre's death, etc. It's unspoken feudalism--they have the more money than anyone else in town, everyone wants to stay on their good sides, that means letting them act like the Lord and Lady of the region. Roberta and Raymundo arrive and Roberta leaves some flowers for the Padre and then heads for the pews on the OTHER side of the aisle from Sev and Candela after giving Severiano a…significant…glance.
Joaquin comes into the house, looking for Raymundo, but he only finds Adelina. Mhm, I'm supposed to believe he didn't know that Raymundo was off at the vigil? He apologizes for not realizing Adelina is Roberta's sister, 'cause if he'd known that, he would have helped her with her bags earlier. He's sure glad she decided to stay…uh, for Roberta. Riiiiiiight.
While Cristobal hangs out in his crib, Prudencia takes a look at Candela's jewelry…and gets busted by Dominga. She was on her way to the vigil, but she's changed her mind. She'd hate for anything to turn up missing. Prudencia is pissed at Dominga's insinuations…"Oh, honey, I don't insinuate, I just come right out and say it!" Prudencia threatens to have a talk with Candela about her uppity maid…but she can't, or Candela will find out WHY they had words. So that's that. Score 1 for Dominga!
Joaquin finds Raymundo at the church and asks to speak to him. Candela tells Severiano that no one is standing guard at the casket and it's his turn. As soon as he stands to one side of the casket, Roberta gets up and stands on the other. Before Candela can go start something, a random townie asks to speak with her. Meanwhile, Roberta is up there accusing Severiano of killing the Padre. Geez, y'all…can't a guy rest in peace, in peace? Noooo, you've gotta make it all about you. Roberta says he'd better meet her at the barn right the hell now or she'll come back to the church and accuse him of killing the Padre. She scoots on out of the church and makes the excuse to Raymundo, outside, that there are too many people…and she has a headache…and she's sure the walk will help her feel better…and Raymundo should stay…and she doesn't need a ride from Joaquin. Nope, couldn't get out of that last one. No idea what Joaquin needed to say to Raymundo, either.
Severiano gets back to his pew, giving Candela a chance to ask him QTH was going on up there and insisting that THAT WOMAN was saying something to him…she couldn't POSSIBLY have been praying. Severiano says he has to go pay the funeral home right away.
Back at the house, Roberta starts looking for a way out of the house that won't take her past Joaquin in the truck out front. When Adelina sees her, she makes the excuse that she just needs a headache pill and then she's going back to the church. Adelina's not buying it. "Fine! I need to talk to Severiano. Raymundo doesn't have to know…unless someone tells him." Adelina hates being an accomplice, but not only can she not talk Roberta out of her stupidity, but Aldonza starts crying and Adelina runs upstairs, leaving Roberta free to run out the front door.
Candela is upset to hear from Melecio that Dominga stayed home with the baby. Because Melecio hems and haws over not really knowing why, she wonders if something is wrong with the baby. She asks if Severiano stopped in to see Cristobal when he got home, but, well, Melecio doesn't know anything about that….
Severiano lights some candles at the love shack. "El miedo no anda en burro" says Roberta as she walks in. Took me a while to HEAR her…then longer to understand what she said…then I had to look it up. Literally, it's "fear doesn't ride a donkey." Severiano says he's not scared of her, but he sure did move fast…as in, not at the speed of a donkey. Roberta threatens once again to tell everyone that he killed Padre Sixto, or is at least involved, because Raymundo saw him leaving the church at 9. Severiano says she should check the death certificate, if she doesn't believe him. "Yeah, and how much did you pay for that?" She tells him to save the lies for people who don't know him as well as she does. If he's not scared, then why did he show up? "For you." "Oh, sure. Now that I'm ready to tell all your darkest secrets, now you want me back?" Severiano says he tried to forget her, but he just can't! But, they're married, and she can't go around playing the jealous lover. Roberta would leave everything for him, but Severiano says it's the secrecy that gets them both off. And speaking of getting off…the clothes start flying.
Raymundo surprises Adelina. Aldonza has been a little jumpy. "So are you…what's up?" Raymundo is sure something is going on, and it's something to do with Roberta. Adelina admits that she's not in the house. "I don't know where she went." He doesn't believe her and begs for the truth, going so far as to try to shake the truth out of her. "Is she cheating on me? Where did she go?" Adelina says she doesn't know, just that it's close. He leaves the house, machete in hand, before she can stop him.
Cristobal is fussy and Dominga can't calm him down. Candela insists she go find Humberto…"He IS a doctor! He might actually know something!" Dominga is skeptical, but does as she's told.
Raymundo sees lights on in the barn.
Roberta adjusts her thigh-high for the camera and gives the guys in Viewerville a quick flash of something to keep 'em tuned in. Mrs. Robinson, eat your heart out. She's jonesing to make a run for it with Severiano, but he tells her she's nuts…and what about her daughter? Well, no, Roberta's not that heartless. But she doesn't know how long she can keep up the lies. Severiano tells her to just live in the moment and let the secrets make their forbidden fruit a little more juicy. Raymundo drives the truck right into the barn and when he grabs the machete and gets out, gets shot in the leg by Severiano. He gets in a good slice to Severiano's arm and Roberta tries to keep him from doing any more damage, but he fights her off. Rather than let her husband kill her lover, Roberta picks up Severiano's gun and shoots Raymundo.
Tomorrow: Everyone is worried; the barn burns; Adelina has to cover for her sister yet again.
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Two murders in two nights. Whew! Can't believe Roberta chose the life of her lover over the life of the father of her child. That's just cold.
I think wardrobe clearly meant for us to see that Roberta is the kind of woman who wears sexy thigh highs, and doesn't care if she flashes them.
Loving Alexis A. (Sev) in this role. So evil.
It's the third episode and we've got 2 deaths. This is gonna get ugly.
Very interesting that Raymundo's brother might be taking over... But why doesn't Candela like him?
Roberta and Severiano have a lot of chutzpah.
I know I'm not supposed to like Roberta, but I just can't help it. I also love all her "I'm not bad, I'm just dressed that way" fashion choices.
I don't know why Candela wouldn't like Geronimo, other than him being Raymundo's brother. But if they're all locals, maybe something happened in the past. I certainly hope so anyway!
"For once, Prudencia's gossip radar doesn't ping and she limits herself to asking what the Padre died of"
Yee, haw, we're off to the races!
And tofie "love the wtf look..." now I'm just giggling away and the cats are annoyed that I've woken them up.
And don't forget the nookie! Action and nookie... I don't know what to do with myself.
Interesting that we've got these two dark shows sandwiching MCET and Hasta. Or are they getting dark, too?
tofie- I'm going to waller with you!
Is it wrong of me to hope that Candela's issue with Ray's brother is like y'all said? That would be pretty good if she was still listing after him.
Anyway thanks Diva for the great recap of last night and tonight! I'm liking the angst already. Also, since we are going to have a 20-ish year time jump, I note the subtle signs of the early nineties in the wardrobe, shoulder pads, yuppy jacket and pleated pants of Candela, also the beige landline phone. Nice touch.
J in Oregon
But i do not like it that they remaked a novela that was remaked years ago unless they will pull uncertain twists into it. If not ,then i dont know if it will interest me enough,.
I am still waiting for the Pasion remakes by the way!
I'm glad to know that even the females noticed Roberta's expert thigh exposures.
Priesticide was rampant last night. Being in the clergy is more dangerous than pulling a tour in the Middle East with an elite special operations unit.
Roberta's kid has a really crazy hair growth pattern.
Gee, we've had more entertaining murder, mayhem and sexy hijinks in these few episodes than in the entire La Ga... Oops, almost said it. Sorry.
David
Well, Susana is sure playing the cat on a hot tin roof in this one. she always looks slightly possessed. I get a kick out of her tearing around frantically with that wild hair flying and her garters showing. She looks like she has ants in her pants and bees in her bonnet.
J- I'm enjoying the fashion trip down memory lane as well.
Corazón and Countx - it's a Mejia production and he's on my "don't watch list." I agree that it seems ridiculous to be making a third remake so soon after the last one (Cuando me enamoro.)
She wants to be respected, but can't seem to figure out what she's doing wrong.
She'll leave her baby alone for God knows how long to meet Severiano for a tryst, but she won't leave the baby entirely.
The fashion interpretations of 2p years ago are...interesting. Last night, both Robbie and her sis were wearing big shirts and BIG belts. The sister's clothes always look too big for her petite body. Candela looks like she just stepped out of the Dynasty set with those shoulder pads.
I've always loved your detailed, riveting recaps and am so happy to be reading them again.
Too many wonderful lines to quote but "illicit snogging" and "Subtle characterization or mistake in the editing room?" were my favorites.
I'll agree with everyone this is sailing along splendidly and shockingly!
2 murders and Roberta's husband gone so very quickly. I was surprised she shot him. I mean, it was obvious she didn't love him but to shoot him in the back, defending her lover was beyond cold.
That said, I agree with you Kat, I can't hate Roberta. Even now. Perhaps it's an affection for the actress but I'm not yet ready to stone her.
When Severiano choked the padre in the second episode, I have never seen such a contorted facial expression. Alexis' performance in that scene was brillant.
I'm also enjoying Prudencia. She and Roberta share a similar taste in fashion "dont's" but I like Roberta's style.
Can't wait for the fallout.
So nice to see so many comments already.
Diana
Love Baby Aldonza's mohawk. I think it's adorable. :) Little bald Baby Cris (really Baby Mauro Lyle) is a cutie too. Will the babies meet as babies, or only once they are older? They don't even have their scapulars to unite them, as baby Cris isn't allowed to wear his yet (I tend to agree with Candy that it's a chocking hazard).
I question I keep forgetting to ask- why is Prudencia so interested in the waterfall? I understand it was a pretext when she went to see Raymundo, but she was even asking about it at the baptism. Does she know Candela wants it and was just digging at her?
It's unimportant but it's stuff I think about.
As for Miss Cynthia i am not very impressed with her,at best she would most likely bore me.It is my first time watching her.
I told you Rene Stickler was a Sean Bean and no one believed me :,now you have it the generosity of proof:)
By the way here is his theme song, it would fit him nice :)
http://youtu.be/fLI3fSgccZU
I propose we stick with full and unadulterated names for at least the premiere week, though. I do like that a lot of the names can be shortened and still remain clear. (Pru, Sev, Ray for example.) I may still need to type out Dominga and Roberta.
Say what you will about the show that shall not be named, but at least the names were easily shortened and still obvious.
Diana
I don't know the Roberta actress like many of you. I can see she's well thought of. She and everybody else are doing a nice set up in the time warp.
Thanks, again Diva! Ahhhh! How nice to have a new story!
Candela - I feel like a kite in this dress
Roberta - yep, I got legs all way up to my ass
Severiano - Visine gets the red out
Padre Sixto - nex -t
Prudencia - gawd, I'm bored
Adelina - plain jane
Humberto - yep boss, you want dumb, meet Dumberto
Now I'm not sure if she was shooting to kill or just trying to get him to back off.
Now my question about the scene- does anyone else think that Severiano was planning to shoot Roberta before Raymundo showed up? Or were they just trying to call attention to the gun?
Gracias, David! Oh, yes, I noticed the thighs. I admit I'm awed and jealous. Susana is gorgeous, and she's just so unapolagetically sexy in this role, I can't help but be fascinated by her.
Gracias, susanlynn! "ants in her pants and bees in her bonnet" yes! Absolutely! She just has so much energy, and it's fabulous!
Gracias, Diana! I agree, Severiano's face, with the low lighting and the closeup on just one eye...and did that eye get progressively redder as the choking went on?...it was really well done!
CountxAlacran, thanks for your input. Glad you're enjoying Alexis' work.
Sara, Diana, Vivi, I'm not good with nicknames or things like texting shorthand. I type what I'm thinking, so until a nickname naturally suggests itself and I start to think of someone that way all the time, it's not going to make it into the recap. A lot of these names don't have a shortened version--or, at least, I haven't heard any of the characters shorten each other's names.
Lol, Steve! What kind of woman? A baaaaaaaaaaaaad one :D
Gracias, Lila! I'm guessing the murders will slow down now, otherwise they're going to run out of characters! Hopefully, the snogging will continue at the same rate--snogging is a renewable resource!
"Roberta I'm so sorry for being clumsy, my back hitting your bullet" tofie, priceless! Oh, well, that's what he gets for making her swear on his life. Talk about asking for trouble!
Eli, I agree with Sara and Vivi that she shot him on purpose. Or, at the very least, that it was her intention to shoot him. I think there was a bit of surprise on her face, as if even though she knew what pulling the trigger would do, she didn't think it would actually work. (I once punched my brother in the face and broke his glasses. I was completely shocked. I totally meant to punch him, I just didn't think my punch would land. I figured he would get out of the way!)
Sara, I was thinking that Severiano was planning to shoot Roberta after one last roll in the literal hay. Mr. 5ft thought so as well. His reasoning was that if Severiano wants to cover his tracks and Roberta won't keep her mouth shut, then there's only one way to deal with her. Now that he has Humberto around to help him with the medical end of covering up murder, why not? Though, wouldn't the funeral home notice something as blatantly obvious as a gunshot wound? Did they not notice the Padre's strangulation marks or were they paid not to notice?
I wish I knew more about Roberta and Raymundo. Did he misrepresent himself or his wealth? Or did she have unrealistic expectations? I suspect the blame is with her.
What Roberta heard: blah blah blah HACIENDA blah blah LAND blah blah blah.
She didn't even give a hoot about the waterfall.
Roberta just killed the golden goose I think. What's she gonna do now?
Which reminds me to thank you again Diva since you managed to get Mr Dominga's name.
OK so in Mexico, the new Lucero Suarez show starts May 25 plus some confusing stuff.
This IS moving along pretty well. We've had some great episodes and it is only the first week.
I'm also bummed there is no show tonight. I'm dying to see what happenes next.
I was shocked when Roberta shot Raymundo. I knew Ray was gonna die eventually but I had a feeling it would be by the hands of Sev and not Roberta. Poor Raymundo. I'm going to miss him.
Looking forward to Friday.
Thanks.
Ann-NYC
P.s. Could the theme song be changed to ''Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls?',
And I've been humming that tune all day.
Don't go chasing cheating hos...
OMG, all these unladylike women running around here! Thank goodness...or I would have thought I'd walked into the wrong conversation!
With Humberto on Severiano's payroll the town's murder rate is bound to drop. Suddenly everyone will be dying of natural causes left and right.
P.S. Science fair duty...that brings up a lot of baaad memories for me.
I think teaching can make you salty. I am very patient and helpful and nice with my students (no matter their behavior) but it does tire me out so I get a little salty and impatient with non - students sometimes.
I love doing Science Olympiad. The kids are so enthusiastic.
I love Susana and I love the part she's playing. Someone knows how to use their actors to the fullest. (I'm looking at you producer who shall not be named.)
Diva..yes, Roberta's got all the baad girl vices..she reminds me of my high school friend Mary Jane...not a euphemism. MJ was the classic bad girl...but a lot smarter than Roberta who seems very unfocused and slightly unhinged to me. She is loca for Sever and that makes her dangerous..and obnoxious..not just bad and horny. There..I said it again.,
OMG, the other night after the baptism when Roberta was practically blowing smoke in the baby's face. She only started blowing it in the other direction when she saw the look on Adelina's face and she pulled the baby away.
Damn...if you don't have anything nice to say, come sit by me!
We've only had three episodes of this show and I already feel like I'm going through withdrawals from one night without it.
OMG MAN I NEED A FIX GIVE IT TO ME MAN I CAN'T GO ON WITHOUT MY FIX MAN.
ahem. So withdrawals.
doris- I am always impatient for the veinte años después! I just hope we don't have to wait long on this one. PSMA took forever.
I'm sure all the adults will still look just about the same, since they didn't try to make them look "younger" just had them in the hair and clothing appropriate for the time, which does look like late '80s, early '90s to me. I'll miss Prudencia's Big Texas Hair. And I'm sure those scapulars will end up being significant, or they wouldn't have made such a fuss about them.
Thanks.
High today...14, so most local schools have two hour delays.
"get us to the resulting screwed up present" HAA
Tofie..ahhhh.pobrecita...I wear socks all the time except when I am in the shower. This has been a very odd winter. Tomorrow will be 28..Sunday 40....then down to 19 Monday. It's like being on a temperature rollercoaster. When I left the house this morning, I was wearing jeans, a turtleneck, a sweatshirt, a scarf, a hooded coat, another scarf, and boots. I could barely move. I NEED spring. I NEED green. Insert big sigh here.
Vivi...Will the cherry blossoms be late this year ? When do they usually appear?
Loved all the comments about the weather all of us peeps are a
enjoying. Can't wait for Spring. Should hit in early July here in Washington.
See you all Tuesday morning.
For our friends outside the US reading our weather complaints, we are speaking Fahrenheit, not Celsius. :)
David
I wonder how much of her bluster is crippling self doubt/low self esteem.
Maybe she goes into every social situation with the attitude of "They are going to hate me anyway, so why not just go for the gold and be a complete scandal?"
Maybe this only makes sense in my head.
Annnnnd I'd totally forgotten that Alex Sirvent was in this one, eeeeeek!
Chiming in on the weather report...It's cloudy and 69 in Phoenix, heading for a high of 83. Don't hate me. We'll have months of 120-degree weather with lows in the 80s soon enough.
David, I can't imagine 130. Once we get above 115 regularly, I try to hide indoors until it's over.
Sara, Roberta's behavior is self-defeating, for sure. I wonder if what we saw was the first time Raymundo had ever pointed out that if she wants people to give a crap about her, she needs to spend some time with them.
I think you're right that she fooled herself into thinking she was going to be some rich influential woman and then showed up and found out that Candela is actually the queen bee. It's not just the money, though, it's that Candela has fully embraced that this is her role and that as part of it she has to involve herself with the town. I'm sure the random townie approaching her at the funeral wasn't just for the sake of drama--she probably gets asked for help or advice all the time. Was the position at the top of the food chain handed to her? Yep. But she also does things to maintain that position and influence.
Roberta just whines and complains that no one likes her...because that's always such an effective way to make friends! I think she does try to antagonize people on purpose since she's decided they don't like her anyway, and then she's shocked...shocked, I tell you!...that they don't like her.
Eli, I know it's difficult trying to write a recap while swooning, but I have faith in you!
She seems a little pissy about not having the waterfall and I'm sure that doesn't help Roberta's case at all.
No, I do not think I'll be faking my death on this one.
On the weather front it is like 78 out here, and it's sure to warm up later.
It is being treated like is is a gorgeous "thinking place." Hardly worth all the trouble.
Diva-I love your interpretation. It did seem ridiculous.
susanlynn, I think they probably have enough money to have someone build them a pool that looks like a natural waterfall and a pond. And with all of Sev's influence, they could probably get it for cheaper than buying the real thing.
I guess El Santuario, despite the "El," is our real protagonista for this show...everybody wants her and nobody really knows why.
As far as Severiano and Candela go...maybe they just want it because they do?
For my next question: Am I reading too much into Raymundo's saying more than once that he can really only trust Jeronimo (his brother) and Adelina (his sister-in-law)...he doesn't include Roberta in that.
Sara, well, he really can't trust Roberta, after all she shot him!
Time to start some controversy if Roberta hasn't started enough already. But first---well a few things first.
A BIG thank you Diva for TWO recaps to help us patio peeps get up to date.
Vivi---You managed to lighten thing up a little with the two murdered priests possibly playing a friendly game of dominos up in heaven. That sounded good.
Tofie---LOL Wallering in lust and murder instead of mi amors.
Diva---Rather be laughing with sinners than crying with the saints. Oh my! The patio's getting dark.
J in Oregon---Lust, murder, betrayal and only three nights. Yes, we've had a lot in just three nights haven't we. I think that the mi amors are coming though.
Watch yourself David, that was a near slip up.
I agree with you Diva, I can't hate Roberta even now. Perhaps it's an affection for the actress but I'm not ready yet to stone her. Me either even after what she did. How can you hate the excellence of Susana Gonzalez? She makes it VERY HARD to dislike her even when she's bad.
OK OK---Now some controversy.
Sara, not too long ago women were smoking while pregnant. Thousands of them, millions of them. Roberta is/was no different. Was it a good thing? No but things have gotten way out of control today when people scream that they are going to die when someone passes them on the sidewalk while smoking, or while even in an outdoor park. Cigarettes are even banned in apartments now. Will cars be banned next? Some people are trying to ban perfume and cologne.
When I was in grades 1--2--and 3 my sister and I lived in freezing cold winter Chicago. Time after time we would have to dig the car out of the snow before we could be on our way. Needless to say when we were on our way, the heater was on and all of the windows were closed tight while mother and father, both heavy smokers would be puffing away. In the house it would be the same thing. End of story---both my sister and I grew up very healthy.
I myself don't smoke and I do not like cigarettes but if I am around
them, I don't think that it is a big thing at all.
Oh Sara---You would rather have had La Sombra than Premios lo Nuestro. Did you see goddess Maite
as a hostess doing interviews on the show last night? She was so beautiful with a new look that I almost didn't recognize her.
Back to bad Roberta tonight.
the gringo
I did see Maite and thought fondly of you gringo. I hoped you were watching. She did look lovely.
Eli- No, Raymundo couldn't trust her. I guess I just found it sad that at the time he said it (pre being shot) he really didn't trust her. What a sad marriage they must have had.
I just remembered too...during the baptism, Roberta started complaining about "the other baptism" and Raymundo saying "don't pay her any mind, padre."
Roberta didn't even hold the child at the baptism. Adelina did.
But like gringo, I love the actress so much that I can't completely hate the character.
I don't remember the context of Raymundo not trusting Roberta. We all know all the really big stuff she did, but I wonder what he knew. Was she just sort of generally careless, like she burned the toast and shrunk his undies in the wash and lost the house keys all the time?
Whatever the reason Raymundo didn't trust Roberta he was correct. Hello bullet.
Add me to the list of children whose mothers smoked. My dad also smoked , and I had lots of respiratory illnesses including whooping cough growing up. Our family doctor gave me lots of penicillin shots.I never be smoked and hated the smell of smoke, but my sister did until she was diagnosed with emphysema right after her 50 year old husband died of lung disease. My dad died at 80. My mother who smoked since she was a teen, ate whatever she wanted, and never exercised, lived to be 90. She was sharp as a tack and feisty as hell to the very end. Her sister who gave up smoking at an early age, lived to be 96..also clear as a bell. You just never know.
On that note, I want to be clear that if anyone out there is in the habit of wearing red dresses, thigh-high stockings, smoking, leaving your children alone in cribs while you wait for your lover in barns, etc. please don't take any criticisms of Roberta personally. If you want to know what I or anyone else thinks about you, then ask...but don't assume that someone's opinions about a character or their behavior would likewise apply to you because you have something in common with that character! That's just a losing proposition that leads to a lot of needlessly hurt feelings.
P.s.I just got another food test..I am asked to identify all the photos of pizzas. I will take a close look at the pizza hubby just brought home before I answer.
I'm predicting waterfall nookie, so I hope that's not where the bury Ray. For his sake.
It's like one of those quizzes...How Roberta Are You?
I'd probably test something like 10% Roberta and 90% Adelina. Or maybe we'll find out that Adeline is racier than she lets on...I can dream :)
My turn...we both have dark brown hair and dark eyes...we both have daughters (I have two)...we both have sisters...we both have husbands, but I did not shoot mine...we both have spent time in barns (me petting litters of puppies and Roberta rolling in the hay\straw with Sever)
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