Thursday, November 28, 2019
Warm Wishes from the Caray, Caray! Family
Wednesday, November 27, 2019
Weekend Discussion 11/27/19: Comparing Cunas
There are only two versions of this
story to my knowledge. The original Cuna de Lobos (1986)
was so hugely popular that the streets of Mexico city were dead on
the night of its finale. This was also at a time when Televisa had
no real competition and there were fewer channels to watch. The
story defied previous attempts at a remake due to many changes in
scientific research and technology, not to mention a previous attempt
by the wrong producer.
I have only seen the original up to
episode 52 (out of 85) but even without the later details I agree
with everyone that 25 episodes are not enough to tell this story.
However, the seeds of a good remake are in the current one due to
most of the following changes:
The Larios Family
The current version has most of the
family younger than their counterparts in the original. The same age
difference between Jose Carlos and Alejandro is in effect. What
appears to be different is that the business owned by Carlos in the
original is one formed several generations before him instead of by
him, so the family's money is much older. In keeping with current
trends at Televisa, their residence is more modern in the current
version.
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Cuna de lobos, Capitulo 25 Martes Gran Final 11/26/19: Unspeakable
Once
in a while one finds a criminal whose evil is not easily explained.
Someone like Catalina Creel defies definitions outside of
“psychopath.” However, that is too small a word for her. I was
raised Catholic, so I still believe that there is unspeakable evil in
this world and – sadly – that we cannot explain every example. I
do not know whether I believe in reincarnation but if that were true
perhaps Catalina is the reincarnation of someone the likes of LiviaDrusilla or perhaps Belle Gunness, who was never caught. – D.D.
Vega's
body was zipped into a body bag and wheeled out of the makeshift
operating room.
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Labels: cuna
El Dragón #40, 11/26/19: Murder she wrote
In the
hospital room Adela flatlines. Miguel begins CPR and calls the nurse. Crash
cart arrives and the doctor uses the defibrillator several times with no response from Adela.
Finally, Miguel gets in there and pounds her chest and her heartbeat returns.
The doctor says, “A precordial thump. I haven’t seen that one done in a very
long time.” Miguel smiles.
Edna
argues with her boss about investigating Miguel’s business to find out who was
the culprit who bombed the place. She wants to confiscate the computers. Her
boss says that she is not to investigate the victim, she is to found out who is
to blame for this.
Labels: dragon
Tuesday, November 26, 2019
El Dragon #39, 11/25/19: Discussion Page
With profound apologies, my cable company's website had major buffering issues with this program last night and the episode isn't posted for On Demand yet. In fact, their site is two episodes behind on this program today.
All I saw was that:
All I saw was that:
- Flaco was badly injured in the left thigh; Peligros has to carry him out
- Adela was trapped under a beam; Miguel got her out and had to carry her out and went into the ambulance with her (I'm imagining that Jimena was royally pissed)
- Pig was gloating
- Lots of smoke in the air and how toxic is it?
Labels: dragon
Monday, November 25, 2019
Cuna de lobos, Capitulo 24 Lunes 11/25/19: Unbelievable
Many
of the cleverest and some of the most hardened criminals are
sometimes confounded by the presence of true evil. It is therefore
shocking when one encounters true evil face to face and fails to see
it for what it is. Being oblivious to it is worse than being shocked
by it because that is when one is truly dead. – D.D.
Catalina
spoke with Vega as he was getting into the all-terrain vehicle.
“I
will see you tomorrow and I will have another little job for you.”
“I'm
glad to hear you're more calm,” he said. “I'll have things to
tell you.” He ended the call and told the driver to take him to
the airport.
She
wasted no time for the next step.
“At
your service, Señora Creel,” said the voice on her phone.
“Proceed
immediately with the preparations, Doctor,” she told him.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 25, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series.
AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very
appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”
If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or
a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it
would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those
that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 96-98
Please Note: Evening Univisión TNs will be preempted on
Thursday, Nov. 28th due to Fútbol. On Wednesday and Friday, El Dragón
will air for 2 hours (from 9-11PM).
Only
one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need
to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in
the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
Discussion pages will be
posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 25, 2019
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: señor7, sin-senos4, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 25, 2019
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join
us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps,
or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives
and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very
welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy
the TN(s).
·
2 PM - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:
Ep. 57-59
·
3 PM - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio: Ep. 30-32
Any
daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the
conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE
put the name of the telenovela you're
referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the
conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word,
i.e., “Mañana”)
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Saturday, November 23, 2019
Weekend Discussion 11/23/19: Karmageddon for the Reptiles of Cuna de Lobos
I
have concluded that the better title for this tale would have been
Abismo de Serpientes. It would seem to me that anyone
entering the territory of Catalina Creel is as much in danger as if
he were entering Ilha da Queimada Grande. Wolves are monogamous,
social, and warm-blooded. They love their young. They are the
ancestors of and reproductively compatible with our beloved dogs.
Snakes are cold-blooded and do not care for their young. They are
also more prone to cannibalism.
We
are so close to the end due to the endless twists and turns of this
story and its unpredictability. Therefore, we have many points to
consider. As usual, we ponder the fates of this Royal Family of
Evil:
- What do you think will happen to them?
- If different, what would you prefer to have happen to them?
For
those unaware, Mexico does not have capital punishment. Do your best
to second-guess or outdo what is to come. – D.D.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 23 Fri. 11/22/19: Catalina's Dilemma - Is it Claustrophobia or Are the Walls Really Closing in?
This is my last recap for "Cuna de lobos" and I would like to thank Urban and AnonFri for joining me on this recapping venture and making the coverage of this novela possible. It has been a pleasure working with you both.
On to the recap:
In Sierra Leone, Vega meets with Julius and informs him at gunpoint that Julius is now working ONLY for him. He will not allow Gothier to get all of the benefits. Julius quickly agrees with a chortling Vega. Suddenly, they are both cackling together but Julius realizes the danger of the situation.
An imbibing Catalina asks Francisco what he is doing coming to see her. He expresses his sympathies about Gélica. He agrees that the "process" of finding the killer will continue because the guilty person is still free. Catalina agrees but without witnesses or evidence it will be difficult to trap her. Francisco wonders about that since that person's good luck seems to be coming to an end. Catalina thinks that could end up being dangerous for others. He informs her that he gave José Carlos all of the financial and operational records of Gothier. She does know what he is talking about, right? Catalina asks him if he wants to commit suicide, too. He answers no but does want her to know that he is capable of turning her in. She asks if he hates her that much. He wants to make a deal. He is going to turn himself into the authorities and will take the fall for all of the illegal business dealings they made together. She wants to know in exchange for what. He makes it perfectly clear. If she does not go, he will turn her in.
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On to the recap:
In Sierra Leone, Vega meets with Julius and informs him at gunpoint that Julius is now working ONLY for him. He will not allow Gothier to get all of the benefits. Julius quickly agrees with a chortling Vega. Suddenly, they are both cackling together but Julius realizes the danger of the situation.
An imbibing Catalina asks Francisco what he is doing coming to see her. He expresses his sympathies about Gélica. He agrees that the "process" of finding the killer will continue because the guilty person is still free. Catalina agrees but without witnesses or evidence it will be difficult to trap her. Francisco wonders about that since that person's good luck seems to be coming to an end. Catalina thinks that could end up being dangerous for others. He informs her that he gave José Carlos all of the financial and operational records of Gothier. She does know what he is talking about, right? Catalina asks him if he wants to commit suicide, too. He answers no but does want her to know that he is capable of turning her in. She asks if he hates her that much. He wants to make a deal. He is going to turn himself into the authorities and will take the fall for all of the illegal business dealings they made together. She wants to know in exchange for what. He makes it perfectly clear. If she does not go, he will turn her in.
Read more »
Labels: cuna
El Dragon #38, 11/22/19 - Whack a Mole Explosion!
Another Friday is upon us and this time with the end of, what the rest of the world will see on Netflix as the season Finale for Season 1. So I am guessing that it should be a good one. But for us, it is just another Friday night cliffhanger, thank you Univision. So let’s jump in.
First, we open with Hector. He is being tortured by Epig! Interestingly enough, Epig has done exactly what Miguel told him not to do. He is not leaving Hector alone. In the opening scene, he is holding a gun to his head telling him he needs to say his prayers because he is going to the bone yard. Epig takes a shot, but is messing with Hector. Because he doesn’t actually shoot him. He is a complete jerk, pretending to not understand why the shot didn’t kill Hector and telling him he is usually good for the third shot. Just trying to play mind games. Hector begs him to kill him. Epig tells Hector that if he opens his eyes he will put a bullet between his eyes. But Hector obviously doesn’t have that much of a death wish because he doesn’t open his eyes.
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Friday, November 22, 2019
El Dragón #37, 11/21/19: Pig Makes His Bed, Victor Sticks In His Nose, Flaco Flakes, and Mig Machos Out
Epigmanio has been locked inside the restaurant's storeroom, acting more like a caged boar, squealing and roaring away, ready to gore the first big thing in sight. When Miguel appears and tells Pighe's only alive right now because he wants Pig alive. Pig screams insults at "the effiminate Japanese wanna-be" to fight him man to man. Mig opens the cage and walks off further into the narrow hallway. "--You want me, you got me."
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Labels: dragon
Thursday, November 21, 2019
Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 22 Thurs. 11/21/19: Gelica in Jail, Not Happy with Accommodations
This is AnonFri's LAST recap for Cuna. Let's give AnonFri a well deserved round of virtual applause for these great recaps. [Anita, who has been the gremlin posting them on the front page.]
Leonora is crying inconsolably in her jail cell. A guard calls out her name and tells her she’s free. Leonora walks one last time through the cell area and finds Luis and Jose Carlos at the end of the gates. She’s holding her clothes and trying to stifle her cry but upon hugging them, thanking them, and asking for forgiveness, she cries. She holds them together that way for a bit.
Leonora is soon outside at the Larios mansión and finds Catalina in the garden. She demands to know where her son is, but Catalina says “My grandson is with his father, as it should be. You can’t get near him.” She adds that Alejandro has full custody because she’s not capable of taking care of Edgar. Leonora claims that no judge will keep her away from her son, and when Catalina tries to hold her back from entering the home, Leonora tells her off. Alejandro walks out with Edgar in his arms and hands him over to Leonora. Catalina asks him what he’s doing, and he responds that he should have done this long ago. He offers Leonora a ride but she replies that Luis is waiting for her and she resentfully says she never wants to see him again. When she’s gone, Catalina tells Alejandro that Edgar is her grandson, this is his home and I’ll make sure that he comes back. He retorts “You’ll never change will you? You’ll never understand.”
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Leonora is crying inconsolably in her jail cell. A guard calls out her name and tells her she’s free. Leonora walks one last time through the cell area and finds Luis and Jose Carlos at the end of the gates. She’s holding her clothes and trying to stifle her cry but upon hugging them, thanking them, and asking for forgiveness, she cries. She holds them together that way for a bit.
Leonora is soon outside at the Larios mansión and finds Catalina in the garden. She demands to know where her son is, but Catalina says “My grandson is with his father, as it should be. You can’t get near him.” She adds that Alejandro has full custody because she’s not capable of taking care of Edgar. Leonora claims that no judge will keep her away from her son, and when Catalina tries to hold her back from entering the home, Leonora tells her off. Alejandro walks out with Edgar in his arms and hands him over to Leonora. Catalina asks him what he’s doing, and he responds that he should have done this long ago. He offers Leonora a ride but she replies that Luis is waiting for her and she resentfully says she never wants to see him again. When she’s gone, Catalina tells Alejandro that Edgar is her grandson, this is his home and I’ll make sure that he comes back. He retorts “You’ll never change will you? You’ll never understand.”
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Labels: cuna
Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 18, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series.
AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very
appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”
If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or
a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it
would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those
that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 94-95
Only
one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need
to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in
the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
Discussion pages will be
posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
Read more »
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of November 18, 2019
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
9-10PM - El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
9-10PM - El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: selena, señor7, sin-senos4, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 18, 2019
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Join
us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps,
or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives
and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very
welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy
the TN(s).
·
2 PM - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:
Ep. 55-56
·
3 PM - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio: Ep. 28-29
Any
daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the
conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE
put the name of the telenovela you're
referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the
conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word,
i.e., “Mañana”)
Read more »Labels: daytime, hijas, otro-dia
El Dragón #36, 11/20/19: Mexican Samurai
Japan:
Miguel, Peligros, and Ishiro were with Jun, who explained that the
dispute between himself and Goro goes way back. A gang of ninjas
stalked Tadamichi and placed a motion sensor in the woods while Jun
denied killing his own right-hand man, blaming Goro for this as the
pretext for a war. Miguel saw the tattoo on Jun's hand and realized
he was lying, flashing back to a shooting inciident. Miguel put Jun
in a deadly headlock saying he will kill him himself if he kills
Tadamichi.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 21 Wed. 11/20/19: A Twisty Kinky Tale with a Strong Dose of Disillusionment
We pick up the story with Leonora in her cell being counseled by her "Catalina bought" public defender Figueroa. He explains how they can get her a more favorable sentence and her baby back in her custody even maybe at a minimum security prison with her confession to Miguel's murder. She wisely asks if Catalina and Alejandro can do something to thwart their efforts and the lawyer knowingly says that they cannot do anything "legally". He explains the court will act to protect the infant and that they will grant custody to whomever can assure its well-being the best. Leonora looks hopeful. He asks if they can accept the deal offered by the judge. Leonora barely nods.
At Luis's place, Alvaro sits quietly while José Carlos and Luis talk about what to do next to help Leonora. They discuss that Alvaro's testimony would have the same weight as the security guard's so they need something else. Luis is ready to tell them that Leonora was with him when Miguel died and that Alvaro had a meeting with Catalina at the building at that time.
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At Luis's place, Alvaro sits quietly while José Carlos and Luis talk about what to do next to help Leonora. They discuss that Alvaro's testimony would have the same weight as the security guard's so they need something else. Luis is ready to tell them that Leonora was with him when Miguel died and that Alvaro had a meeting with Catalina at the building at that time.
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Labels: cuna
Wednesday, November 20, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 20 Martes 11/19/19: J'accuse!
I
often wonder whether true crime programs on television – including
my own – make criminals smarter. Whether they do or not, they're
good for ratings. This one will make a great novel someday. In the
meantime it will serve as a social statement about how injustice can
sometimes be bought. – D.D.
Leonora
got her first experience of violence in the prison at roll call, when
she failed to answer. The guard nastily told her that she was to
respond when she called her name, then hit her in the stomach.
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