Wednesday, November 06, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 12 Martes 11/5/19: Sabrina Full of Grace


Lies and long-term deceptions are the poisons of life. It doesn't matter whether people are rich or poor as long as they are honest with themselves as well as others. No monster ever wants to know that is what they are and many are not born to this, but become so because of what they do to others. Too many of them do not see this happening. – D.D.
Ámbar fired several times, aiming just a half meter beyond Catalina's left shoulder. Catalina – as cold-blooded as ever – barely flinched.
No, no,” said Francisco.
Tell me the truth,” Ámbar said. “Tell me.”
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El Dragón #27, 11/5/19: Locked up Twice, is there an Escape?


We begin with Chisca’s arrest and getting her mugshots. She thinks she can just say she is a Garza and get off easily. But she gets thrown in the slammer anyway without a phone call. Her cellmate bullies her around and finally Chisca goes to sit down.

Miguel and Duarte are talking about Hector and discussing what to do about it. Miguel says he can’t help him.

At the Garza home, Dora and Rosario discuss dinner while the TV is on. Dora is horrified as she witnesses Chisca’s arrest on the news. She calls Miguel who is in the midst of talking to Duarte. Then he makes a deal with Duarte as Duarte “offers” to just say the word and get her out. Miguel is stuck. He is now indebted to Duarte, one favor for another.

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Tuesday, November 05, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 11 Lunes 11/4/19: My Cup Boileth Over


Secrets and lies are a poisonous stew that left simmering too long will boil over the top, leaving a gaseous pollution in the air. These are not the stuff of wolves, who work together and love their cubs, but of reptiles and venom. Reptiles do not care for their young and are barely conscious of them; they act only in their own self-interest. – D.D.

Luis went to the meeting arranged over the phone and it was with Ámbar.
So you have evidence that Doña Catalina is a murderer? Why call me instead of the police?” he asked.
You know who Catalina Creel is. It's a miracle that I'm alive. She tried to kill me when I discovered that she and my husband were lovers. I was kidnapped, taken to another house, put in the garage, fed an overdose of tranquilizers, and thrown into a car trunk. I don't know what would have happened to me if I hadn't managed to escape.”
Does anyone in your family know about this?”
No. They are all convinced that I abandoned my husband. But she is only concealing her crime. She thinks I'm dead, so that's why I asked you to come.”
I don't understand why you called me; remember that I'm only a journalist.”
But you interfered in what was happening. You were at the new line celebration. You know they are criminals. You know about the trafficking in illegal diamonds.”
Because at that moment I was in the middle of an investigation –”
He stopped as Dora entered with coffee.
Thank you, Dora.” She turned back to Luis. “You can talk; I trust her.”
Dora looked at Luis, then excused herself and left them to talk.
I don't have more to say,” Luis said. “I had to abandon the case because of my boss's lack of confidence and because I had no proof of anything.”
I can help with evidence. Catalina and my husband think I'm an idiot, an imbecile who knows nothing, but I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You and I, if you help me, can do this so Catalia pays for everything she's done.”
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El Dragón #26, 11/4/19: Two-Faced




Amigos:

This one isn't up to my usual standard because I was really wiped out. There are some gaps, so if you can ID what happened, please put it in the comments. I will fix this for posterity later.

Miguel once again told Howard that they had no real evidence against him.
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Monday, November 04, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of  providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 82-84
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 4, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM  -  El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 for the first full week in November! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 42-44
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 16-18

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Saturday, November 02, 2019

Cuna de Lobos Capítulo 10 Fri. 11/1/19 Catalina and the Law of Unintended Consequences--OR--An Heir and a Spare

Over drinks with Francisco, Catalina expresses her concern over the phone calls she has been receiving but insists she is not worried.  Francisco thinks it is just someone who wants to frighten her.  Putting him on the spot, she asks what he would he be willing to do for her. He asks what does she have in mind.

Back at Francisco's, Ambar is lingering in her bedroom as Dora tries to get her to leave because she knows that Francisco is on his way home. Ambar wants some of her clothes. Dora asks her not to take any because she doesn't want Francisco to think she is a thief. Ambar doesn't think he would ever notice as he cares nothing about her. Dora disagrees and urges her to leave. As Ambar barely moves, she and Dora hear Francisco arriving with Catalina.  Out in the hall, Catalina wants to have sex but Francisco tries to get out of it saying it is just too soon (after Ambar disappearing). Catalina won't take "no" for an answer and soon she and Francisco are all over each other.  Dora and Ambar have managed to sneak into the kitchen on the way out.  Ambar grabs a knife as Dora tries to stop her.  Catalina hears a noise from the kitchen. Francisco becomes curious and goes into  the kitchen.  He sees Dora with the knife in her hand. She excuses herself saying she dropped it as she was putting it away. She looks and sounds nervous as she explains that she was just doing some ironing. Francisco reminds her how late it is.  She was just going . . . He gives her a half smile as she leaves but looks concerned.  He tells Catalina that he is sure that Dora saw them. Catalina doesn't care what the servant thinks and they are back at it. Dora and Ambar are still in the house. Ambar starts to wail after seeing Francisco with Catalina. Dora covers her mouth to keep her quiet and leads her out of the house.
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El Dragón #25, 11/1/19: The Fall of Halcon and Toledo Tries to Hook a Big Fish


Good Friday my faithful friends. What an interesting week we have had here on El Dragon. Although Monday night’s episode was a little slow, they did not leave us there and the rest of the week was action packed. 

Tonight’s episode picks up with Epig’s suv under fire. El Halcon has decided that his time is up and is trying to take him out. Last night’s bomb didn’t do the job, but it looks as if it is still not time for Epig to meet his maker as he is driving an armored car and the bullets are bouncing off. Epig, Tacho and Chano escape the “atentado.” I like that word in Spanish better than the equivalent English explanation of an attempt/or action of kill people in the street, it also means attack but again, the word fails to completely capture the idea. Although “hit” would probably do it if set in the right context. 

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Friday, November 01, 2019

El Dragón #24, 10/31/19: Only Coal For His Stocking and Pig Gets A Mocking


Upon discovery, Miguel manages to find the colored wrapping for the efedrin packs (?) as he makes a run through the back and apparently places his brown ball cap on some other unsuspecting worker so that Tacho accuses him of screwing around and not listening.  Mig secretly is able to contact Peligros and tell him to go buy a few things they'll need now.

Hector squirms his way out of having to seduce--or be seduced by--Juana.  He pleads emotional difficulties (Well, whatever pays the rent, right?) and they agree to see each other again.  In the meantime Juana shows him pictures of her and Natalie in her phone, one of which intrigues him.  He takes her phone and sends copies of her pictures to himself while she is changing into something more stimulating--er relaxing.  (A cocktail dress instead of negligee--thanks be to the telenovela gods.

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Thursday, October 31, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 9 Thus. 10/31/19

What follows is AnonFri's recap for this episode.

Alejandro has still not appeared. Jose Carlos starts to humor Catalina on what she will tell the press about the cancelled wedding. It would be a huge scandal. Catalina maintains her composure despite being a bit nervous.

Before leaving Catalina alone, Jose Carlos mentions that someone will be interrogated and she likely won’t pass and will end up saying that she was hired. (The murder he was framed for?) Catalina immediately calls Diego.

Leonora is throwing up in the bathroom. Alejandro asks if she’s ok. She says she is, but he’s not convinced. Leonora first asks him how his trip to Buenos Aires went. He said it went well, but that he needs to talk to her and doesn’t know where to begin. He tells her he wants her to understand him, in the time that he’s been gone he’s thought over somethings and was able to resolve many doubts and realize what he’s doing with her. Leonora lays out the pregnancy test before him. She tells him “This is what you’re doing to me: I’m pregnant.” This was her fourth test already.
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 80-81
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

•   9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 for the week! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 40-41
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 14-15

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragón #23, 10/30/19: We Was Robbed!


 Miguel gets the call from the head of El Salado's northern region (Z????) who's always got a phrase of English to show his roots.  "We was robbed!!  They stole our boats!  Right from under our noses!!" (Time to get your 2nd head back behind the zipper.)

The two regional heads meet with Mig to complain and say it was his idea and if he can't put a stop to this kind of "in your face" theft of merchandise --then get out of our way, and we will!   As far as the regional capos see it Mig had a crap plan and it failed.  They already lost half their men in the big shoot out rescuing Dora, now this!  Bullets is the only way to rid ourselves of this traitor!  The two heads believe it was Epigmenio but Mig says they all could have been sold out by their own men.  Mig promises he'll determine first if it was their own men or others who helped pull this off.  He'll get it back.  He's a man of his word.

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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 8 Wed. 10/30/19: Never Say Never--OR--Ámbar Returns

It is evening and Leonora is visited by a driver with a car. He gives her a card with a message: "I need to see you."  She asks if Alejandro is okay. The driver's only response is that he is there to drive her. He suggests she put something else on because it is cold outside.  She looks at the card and wonders what is going on.

Evidently Alejandro isn't waiting for her yet because he is  clothed and  drunk sitting on the floor of a shower getting soaked.  Catalina  appears, pulls him out and asks him what he is doing.  He admits to being drunk and angry because he feels like he is being suffocated.  Catalina thinks it is all because of Miguel.  Alejandro doesn't agree.  It is all about him and feeling that he is just another piece on her chess board.  She tries to take his wet shirt off which just enrages him more. She cuts that off quickly with a slap across his face telling him to shut up and to get dressed.
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Wednesday, October 30, 2019

Discussion, 10/30/19: Fabrica de Sueños, Televisa's Failure?



The excellent La Usurpadora and the much-anticipated Cuna de Lobos were part of a Televisa initiative to present lavish 25-episode productions of past classics by the network. What mystifies me is the reason behind some of these, as I have seen most of them. The Wikipedia page listed the rest of them in this order:
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El Dragón #22, 10/29/19: More Treachery, More Murder


Hector continues his conversation with Cuña and finds out from him that impunity reigns and justice does not exist. He says, “The real mafiosos are the politicians.”

Chisca comes barging into Miguel’s office and Miriam tries to stop her. But Miguel tells Miriam not to worry and allows her to leave the office. Chisca, however, is throwing a temper tantrum with Miguel about her not being able to get a ride to Cuidad Jimenez via Peligros. He tells her that he knows she is into drugs and she needs rehab. She just gets angrier and tells him she is just as much a boss as he is and that he fancies himself as some sort of Mexican James Bond, with his Geishas and Samurais. She storms out.

Meanwhile, in Cuidad Jimenez, Hector goes to see his politician friend. He tells his friend he knows that Epigmenio is behind all this bloodshed. Hector wants to verify if Carlos Duarte is behind Epigmenio Moncada, but his politician friend starts getting hot under the collar and tells Hector to put a lid on it because it’s such a great risk to him. He tells Hector, “Mr. Bernal, you are toying with something very dangerous and it will always come out badly. I regret telling you the truth. Now please leave.” He shows Hector the door and opens it for him to leave.

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Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 7 Martes 10/29/19: Alibis



Alibis are interesting things. Most people invent them when they are unable – or unwilling – to keep a social commitment. Others need them to cover lies. Smart criminals save the best ones for when they kill.– D.D.
Catalina and Diego were going over communication statuses of their suppliers when Francisco entered her office. She closed her computer and asked whether he had heard from Ámbar.
No. I just spoke to Vega; she's still ignoring me. What worries me is I don't know if I have the right to insist she return my call. I don't know.”
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Tuesday, October 29, 2019

El Dragón #21, 10/28/19: Show Me the Money



Miguel had stripped off his shirt and was having some nooky with Jimena in his glass office. Adela watched briefly through a glass door, then walked away.

Dora sat in the house and Peligros came back telling her that the job was done. She was relieved. He missed being on a ranch; the city wasn't really his thing. He said something about how Miguel really didn't need protection but Dora said that even Miguel has weaknesses.
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