Wednesday, November 27, 2019

El Dragón #40, 11/26/19: Murder she wrote


In the hospital room Adela flatlines. Miguel begins CPR and calls the nurse. Crash cart arrives and the doctor uses the defibrillator several times with no response from Adela. Finally, Miguel gets in there and pounds her chest and her heartbeat returns. The doctor says, “A precordial thump. I haven’t seen that one done in a very long time.”  Miguel smiles.

Edna argues with her boss about investigating Miguel’s business to find out who was the culprit who bombed the place. She wants to confiscate the computers. Her boss says that she is not to investigate the victim, she is to found out who is to blame for this.

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Tuesday, November 26, 2019

El Dragon #39, 11/25/19: Discussion Page

With profound apologies, my cable company's website had major buffering issues with this program last night and the episode isn't posted for On Demand yet.  In fact, their site is two episodes behind on this program today.

All I saw was that:

  • Flaco was badly injured in the left thigh; Peligros has to carry him out
  • Adela was trapped under a beam; Miguel got her out and had to carry her out and went into the ambulance with her (I'm imagining that Jimena was royally pissed)
  • Pig was gloating
  • Lots of smoke in the air  and how toxic is it?

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Monday, November 25, 2019

Cuna de lobos, Capitulo 24 Lunes 11/25/19: Unbelievable



Many of the cleverest and some of the most hardened criminals are sometimes confounded by the presence of true evil. It is therefore shocking when one encounters true evil face to face and fails to see it for what it is. Being oblivious to it is worse than being shocked by it because that is when one is truly dead. – D.D.
Catalina spoke with Vega as he was getting into the all-terrain vehicle.
I will see you tomorrow and I will have another little job for you.”
I'm glad to hear you're more calm,” he said. “I'll have things to tell you.” He ended the call and told the driver to take him to the airport.
She wasted no time for the next step.
At your service, Señora Creel,” said the voice on her phone.
Proceed immediately with the preparations, Doctor,” she told him.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 96-98
Please Note: Evening Univisión TNs will be preempted on Thursday, Nov. 28th due to Fútbol. On Wednesday and Friday, El Dragón will air for 2 hours (from 9-11PM).

Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 25, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 57-59
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 30-32

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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Saturday, November 23, 2019

Weekend Discussion 11/23/19: Karmageddon for the Reptiles of Cuna de Lobos



I have concluded that the better title for this tale would have been Abismo de Serpientes. It would seem to me that anyone entering the territory of Catalina Creel is as much in danger as if he were entering Ilha da Queimada Grande. Wolves are monogamous, social, and warm-blooded. They love their young. They are the ancestors of and reproductively compatible with our beloved dogs. Snakes are cold-blooded and do not care for their young. They are also more prone to cannibalism.

We are so close to the end due to the endless twists and turns of this story and its unpredictability. Therefore, we have many points to consider. As usual, we ponder the fates of this Royal Family of Evil:
  • What do you think will happen to them?
  • If different, what would you prefer to have happen to them?
For those unaware, Mexico does not have capital punishment. Do your best to second-guess or outdo what is to come. – D.D.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 23 Fri. 11/22/19: Catalina's Dilemma - Is it Claustrophobia or Are the Walls Really Closing in?

This is my last recap for "Cuna de lobos" and I would like to thank Urban and AnonFri for joining me on this recapping venture and making the coverage of this novela possible. It has been a pleasure working with you both.

On to the recap:

In Sierra Leone, Vega meets with Julius and informs him at gunpoint that Julius is now working ONLY for him.  He will not allow Gothier to get all of the benefits. Julius quickly agrees with a chortling Vega.   Suddenly, they are both cackling together but Julius realizes the danger of the situation.

An imbibing Catalina asks Francisco what he is doing coming to see her. He expresses his sympathies about Gélica.  He agrees that the "process" of finding  the killer will continue because the guilty person is still free.   Catalina agrees but without witnesses or evidence it will be difficult to trap her.  Francisco wonders about that since that person's good luck seems to be coming to an end. Catalina thinks that could end up being dangerous for others. He informs her that he gave José Carlos  all of the financial and operational records of Gothier. She does know what he is talking about, right?  Catalina asks him if he wants to commit suicide, too. He answers no but does want her to know that he is capable of turning her in. She asks if he hates her that much.  He wants to make a deal. He is going to turn himself into the authorities and will take the fall for all of the illegal business dealings they made together.  She wants to know in exchange for what. He makes it perfectly clear. If she does not go, he will turn her in.
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El Dragon #38, 11/22/19 - Whack a Mole Explosion!


Another Friday is upon us and this time with the end of, what the rest of the world will see on Netflix as the season Finale for Season 1. So I am guessing that it should be a good one. But for us, it is just another Friday night cliffhanger, thank you Univision. So let’s jump in.

First, we open with Hector. He is being tortured by Epig! Interestingly enough, Epig has done exactly what Miguel told him not to do. He is not leaving Hector alone. In the opening scene, he is holding a gun to his head telling him he needs to say his prayers because he is going to the bone yard. Epig takes a shot, but is messing with Hector. Because he doesn’t actually shoot him. He is a complete jerk, pretending to not understand why the shot didn’t kill Hector and telling him he is usually good for the third shot. Just trying to play mind games. Hector begs him to kill him. Epig tells Hector that if he opens his eyes he will put a bullet between his eyes. But Hector obviously doesn’t have that much of a death wish because he doesn’t open his eyes.
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Friday, November 22, 2019

El Dragón #37, 11/21/19: Pig Makes His Bed, Victor Sticks In His Nose, Flaco Flakes, and Mig Machos Out


Epigmanio has been locked inside the restaurant's storeroom, acting more like a caged boar, squealing and roaring away, ready to gore the first big thing in sight.  When Miguel appears and tells Pighe's only alive right now because he wants Pig alive.  Pig screams insults at "the effiminate Japanese wanna-be" to fight him man to man.   Mig opens the cage and walks off further into the narrow hallway.  "--You want me, you got me."

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Thursday, November 21, 2019

Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 22 Thurs. 11/21/19: Gelica in Jail, Not Happy with Accommodations

This is AnonFri's LAST recap for Cuna. Let's give AnonFri a well deserved round of virtual applause for these great recaps. [Anita, who has been the gremlin posting them on the front page.]

Leonora is crying inconsolably in her jail cell. A guard calls out her name and tells her she’s free. Leonora walks one last time through the cell area and finds Luis and Jose Carlos at the end of the gates. She’s holding her clothes and trying to stifle her cry but upon hugging them, thanking them, and asking for forgiveness, she cries. She holds them together that way for a bit.

Leonora is soon outside at the Larios mansión and finds Catalina in the garden. She demands to know where her son is, but Catalina says “My grandson is with his father, as it should be. You can’t get near him.” She adds that Alejandro has full custody because she’s not capable of taking care of Edgar. Leonora claims that no judge will keep her away from her son, and when Catalina tries to hold her back from entering the home, Leonora tells her off. Alejandro walks out with Edgar in his arms and hands him over to Leonora. Catalina asks him what he’s doing, and he responds that he should have done this long ago. He offers Leonora a ride but she replies that Luis is waiting for her and she resentfully says she never wants to see him again. When she’s gone, Catalina tells Alejandro that Edgar is her grandson, this is his home and I’ll make sure that he comes back. He retorts “You’ll never change will you? You’ll never understand.”
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 94-95
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of November 18, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 55-56
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 28-29

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragón #36, 11/20/19: Mexican Samurai



Japan: Miguel, Peligros, and Ishiro were with Jun, who explained that the dispute between himself and Goro goes way back. A gang of ninjas stalked Tadamichi and placed a motion sensor in the woods while Jun denied killing his own right-hand man, blaming Goro for this as the pretext for a war. Miguel saw the tattoo on Jun's hand and realized he was lying, flashing back to a shooting inciident. Miguel put Jun in a deadly headlock saying he will kill him himself if he kills Tadamichi.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 21 Wed. 11/20/19: A Twisty Kinky Tale with a Strong Dose of Disillusionment

We pick up the story with Leonora in her cell being counseled by her "Catalina bought" public defender Figueroa.  He explains how they can get her a more favorable sentence and her baby back in her custody even maybe at a minimum security prison with her confession to Miguel's murder. She wisely asks if Catalina and Alejandro can do something to thwart their efforts and the lawyer knowingly says that they cannot do anything "legally".  He explains the court will act  to protect the infant and that they will grant custody to whomever can assure its well-being the best. Leonora looks hopeful. He asks if they can accept the deal offered by the judge.  Leonora barely nods.

At Luis's place,  Alvaro sits quietly while José Carlos and Luis talk about what to do next to help Leonora. They discuss that  Alvaro's testimony would have the same weight as the security guard's so they need something else.  Luis is ready to tell them that Leonora was with him when Miguel died and that Alvaro had a meeting with Catalina at the building at that time.
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Wednesday, November 20, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 20 Martes 11/19/19: J'accuse!



I often wonder whether true crime programs on television – including my own – make criminals smarter. Whether they do or not, they're good for ratings. This one will make a great novel someday. In the meantime it will serve as a social statement about how injustice can sometimes be bought. – D.D.
Leonora got her first experience of violence in the prison at roll call, when she failed to answer. The guard nastily told her that she was to respond when she called her name, then hit her in the stomach.
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El Dragón #35, 11/19/19: Ruh Roh Scooby Do there's a war going on, but we don't know whose side we are on.



We left with some Japanese guy caught doing something alone in a bathtub and subsequently being punished for it. I thought it was kinda severe, but the Japanese are different about those things. Huh? Oh he was one of the underworld kingpins' helpers from an opposing view. Tadamichi  tells Mr. Migster this means war. Swell fellas, keep it over there this time.

Tadamichi and Migs and Tad tells him to stay close to Goro, he doesn't trust him
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Tuesday, November 19, 2019

El Dragón #34, 11/15/19: From Pig Pen To Makin' Bacon Or All Muddy Tracks Lead to Pig


Parte 1~

We begin again with the most memorable scene this past week: Chano, QEPD, blabbing to Hector that Epimanio Moncado is the head of the new drug cartel in CD Juarez and Hector being covered in brain pulp just afterward, courtesy of Tacho and his high-powered rifle shot from numerous blocks away.

Adela, meanwhile, manages to escape the clutches of Mr. Barrio back alley thug (more of a pipsqueak who seems too winded to do much more than threaten - and why oh why does the barrio bum always determine it's something of a macho rite of passage to rape a gal from outside the neighborhood?) With a well aimed knee-knock at his chestnuts and  ahop onto a conveniently parked moto of a pizza delivery girl... put, put, put--Vroooooom! She is outta there and back on her way to where-ever.

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Monday, November 18, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 19 Lunes 11/18/19: Blood, Sweat, and Tears


Lies, bribes, and sex as payment or manipulation are the stuff of psychopaths. It's a good thing I never went into law enforcement because I don't like thinking about how many people paid for crimes they didn't commit just because the killer had money. Or were induced into committing ones by other people with too much money. Maybe I'll pick up a copy of Double Indemnity and send it anonymously to Commandante Vega to shake up his world. – D.D.

Catalina – in her usual manner when stressed, angry, or triumphant – strew the papers on the table and threw over its top.
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