Thursday, July 09, 2020
WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/9/20: Where Have All The Padres Gone?
It has been somewhat noticeable in the last few years—and dozens
of telenovelas— that the importance of religious guides as dispensers of spiritual
wisdom, salve and balm have largely disappeared from telenovela stories. If
they appear at all, they are rarely seen and often in lighter, shorter roles,
like presiding over a wedding. What could this mean?
Where is a Padre Hottie (Diego Olivera-pictured above) in Triumfo del Amor (2010) when we want to
fantasize about forbidden love? He seems to have been replaced by sterile consulting
offices and clinics administered by serious sounding practitioners of medicine
and mental health. They are the new dispensers of wisdom and offer a cure-all for
what ails the seeker. Currently, Te Doy
La Vida (2020) gives us a perfect example. Who now remembers that Nelson
consulted a padre to rid himself of those “impure” thoughts he had been having
about Ester? I don’t think we’ve seen any of the Villaseñor family members
consult a religious figure, but instead we get doctors and psychologists to
minister to Elena and Nico’s troubles. Granted, Nico did have a serious medical
problem that no padre could have cured with prayer alone.
Labels: weekend
Monday, July 06, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, Enemigo Íntimo 2, y más: Week of July 6, 2020
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, enemigo2, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs…y Mas!: Week of July 6, 2020
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to Daytime TNs! This page is being provided to give
those who are watching daytime TNs on any
channel a place to discuss any of the TNs aired prior to 6PM. If you would like to contribute a recap or
just some highlights for a daytime TN, I’m
sure there are those who watch the same TNs that would appreciate it.
This page can also be used as a forum to keep in touch, discuss
strolls down the Caray! Caray! memory
lane, or anything else that is of interest to the patio.
Please remember that ANY daytime novela can be
discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly
reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring
to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations
they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Vecina”; “Amores”)
"Daytime TNs" will be posted on
Mondays only. There will be a different page posted on Thursdays with a variety
of topics for week-end discussion.
Read more »Labels: daytime
Thursday, July 02, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, Enemigo Íntimo y más: Week of June 29, 2020
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
- 8-9PM - Cennet
- 9-10PM - 100 Días para Enamorarnos
- 10-11PM - Enemigo Íntimo
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, enemigo2, telemundo
WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/2/20: Telenovela Kitchens and Food
How important are kitchens and food in Caray’s favorite
Mexican telenovelas?
Are they really reflective of the current cuisine, or only
in the eyes of the writers and producers?
COCHINITA PIBIL WITH RED ONIONS
What about
telenovelas de época? Did anyone cook and serve meals in Amor Real, Pasion or Alborada? Ah, but then there is El Hotel de los Secretos, the Mexican
version of Upstairs/Downstairs, so of course the kitchen had to have a central
role, which included chopping onions, burning bloody clothes and poisoning tea.
Has street food played any importance? Think Un Refugio Para el Amor and Lorenzo’s bicycle Taco business, prepared in Estela’s kitchen; think Amores Verdaderos and Nikki eating an Elote from a street vendor for the first time.
Labels: weekend
Monday, June 29, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, Enemigo Íntimo y más: Week of June 29, 2020
Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
- 8-9PM — Cennet
- 9-10PM — 100 Días Para Enamorarnos
- 10-11PM —Enemigo Íntimo
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, enemigo2, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs…y Mas!: Week of June 29-July 3, 2020
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to Daytime TNs! This page is being provided to give those who are watching daytime TNs on any channel a place to discuss any of the TNs aired prior to 6PM. If you would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for a daytime TN, I’m sure there are those who watch the same TNs that would appreciate it.
This page can also be used as a forum to keep in touch, discuss strolls down the Caray! Caray! memory lane, or anything else that is of interest to the patio.
Please remember that ANY daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Vecina”; “Amores.”)
"Daytime TNs" will be posted on Mondays only. There will be a different page posted on Thursdays with a variety of topics for week-end discussion
Labels: daytime
Thursday, June 25, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, Enemigo Íntimo 2, y más: Week of June 22, 2020
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2**
**Season 2 of Enemigo Íntimo began this Monday, June 22, in the 10PM time slot. In Season 1, a young brother and sister witness the murder of their parents by a Mexican drug cartel. After the murder, the sister, Roxana Rodiles (Fernanda Castillo), is kidnapped and disappears. Twenty-five years later, her brother, Alejandro Ferrer (Raúl Méndez), is a Federal Police captain eager for revenge against the narcos. Roxana re-emerges and sets herself up buying and selling diamonds. At some point, she spends time in prison.
Season 2 picks up two years later. Alejandro has discovered that his missing sister and his worst enemy, "The Professor," are the same person. Roxana will fight to re-establish the "Mil Cumbres" drug cartel. Alejandro will do everything in his power to stop her and the cartel, unleashing a war between these two siblings, now turned mortal enemies. [Note: This synopsis has been cobbled together from Wikipedia and CNET.]
Read more »
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2**
**Season 2 of Enemigo Íntimo began this Monday, June 22, in the 10PM time slot. In Season 1, a young brother and sister witness the murder of their parents by a Mexican drug cartel. After the murder, the sister, Roxana Rodiles (Fernanda Castillo), is kidnapped and disappears. Twenty-five years later, her brother, Alejandro Ferrer (Raúl Méndez), is a Federal Police captain eager for revenge against the narcos. Roxana re-emerges and sets herself up buying and selling diamonds. At some point, she spends time in prison.
Season 2 picks up two years later. Alejandro has discovered that his missing sister and his worst enemy, "The Professor," are the same person. Roxana will fight to re-establish the "Mil Cumbres" drug cartel. Alejandro will do everything in his power to stop her and the cartel, unleashing a war between these two siblings, now turned mortal enemies. [Note: This synopsis has been cobbled together from Wikipedia and CNET.]
Read more »
Labels: 100 días, cennet, enemigo2, telemundo
WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/25/20: "My amor, por favor" - the language of telenovelas
Hello, my lovely Caray mates!
In a previous Weekend Discussion, many of you mentioned as the main reason for starting to watch novelas the need to learn Spanish. For me it was the other way around, I only learned Spanish because I started watching novelas, as a ten year old.
I never really needed to use the language until a year or so ago, when I changed jobs. Working in a hotel you're in contact with all types of nationalities, but my hotel has A LOT of Spanish speaking clients.
One night I was tending to four lovely Mexican ladies, who had been taking a trip to Paris for the last couple of weeks. They were celebrating one of the ladies 60th birthday and I started chatting with them in my so and so Spanish. They thought I spoke rather well (they were being nice) and I explained the source of my Spanish skills. At one point I offered to bring them a bottle of wine and since they were reluctant to accept, I added: "solo un poquitito" (just a tiny bit). They started laughing and said/ "This is such a telenovela expression."
Because REAL PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK LIKE TELENOVELA PEOPLE apparently!
Read more »
In a previous Weekend Discussion, many of you mentioned as the main reason for starting to watch novelas the need to learn Spanish. For me it was the other way around, I only learned Spanish because I started watching novelas, as a ten year old.
I never really needed to use the language until a year or so ago, when I changed jobs. Working in a hotel you're in contact with all types of nationalities, but my hotel has A LOT of Spanish speaking clients.
One night I was tending to four lovely Mexican ladies, who had been taking a trip to Paris for the last couple of weeks. They were celebrating one of the ladies 60th birthday and I started chatting with them in my so and so Spanish. They thought I spoke rather well (they were being nice) and I explained the source of my Spanish skills. At one point I offered to bring them a bottle of wine and since they were reluctant to accept, I added: "solo un poquitito" (just a tiny bit). They started laughing and said/ "This is such a telenovela expression."
Because REAL PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY SPEAK LIKE TELENOVELA PEOPLE apparently!
Read more »
Labels: weekend
Monday, June 22, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, Enemigo Íntimo 2, y más: Week of June 22, 2020
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2**
**Season 2 of Enemigo Íntimo will start this Monday, June 22, in the 10PM time slot. In Season 1, a young brother and sister witness the murder of their parents by a Mexican drug cartel. After the murder, the sister, Roxana Rodiles (Fernanda Castillo), is kidnapped and disappears. Twenty-five years later, her brother, Alejandro Ferrer (Raúl Méndez), is a Federal Police captain eager for revenge against the narcos. Roxana re-emerges and sets herself up buying and selling diamonds. At some point, she spends time in prison.
Season 2 picks up two years after the events of Season 1. Alejandro has discovered that his missing sister and his worst enemy, "The Professor," are the same person. Roxana will fight to re-establish the "Mil Cumbres" drug cartel. Alejandro will do everything in his power to stop her and the cartel, unleashing a war between these two siblings, now turned mortal enemies. [Note: This synopsis has been cobbled together from Wikipedia and CNET.]
Read more »
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—Enemigo Íntimo 2**
**Season 2 of Enemigo Íntimo will start this Monday, June 22, in the 10PM time slot. In Season 1, a young brother and sister witness the murder of their parents by a Mexican drug cartel. After the murder, the sister, Roxana Rodiles (Fernanda Castillo), is kidnapped and disappears. Twenty-five years later, her brother, Alejandro Ferrer (Raúl Méndez), is a Federal Police captain eager for revenge against the narcos. Roxana re-emerges and sets herself up buying and selling diamonds. At some point, she spends time in prison.
Season 2 picks up two years after the events of Season 1. Alejandro has discovered that his missing sister and his worst enemy, "The Professor," are the same person. Roxana will fight to re-establish the "Mil Cumbres" drug cartel. Alejandro will do everything in his power to stop her and the cartel, unleashing a war between these two siblings, now turned mortal enemies. [Note: This synopsis has been cobbled together from Wikipedia and CNET.]
Read more »
Labels: 100 días, cennet, enemigo2, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs…y Mas!: Week of June 22, 2020
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to Daytime TNs! This page is being provided to give
those who are watching daytime TNs on any
channel a place to discuss any of the TNs aired prior to 6PM. If you would like to contribute a recap or
just some highlights for a daytime TN, I’m
sure there are those who watch the same TNs that would appreciate it.
This page can also be used as a forum to keep in touch, discuss
strolls down the Caray! Caray! memory
lane, or anything else that is of interest to the patio.
Please remember that ANY daytime novela can be
discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly
reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring
to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations
they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Vecina”; “Amores.”)
"Daytime TNs" will be posted on
Mondays only. There will be a different page posted on Thursdays with a variety
of topics for week-end discussion.
Read more »Labels: daytime
Thursday, June 18, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial), y más: Week of June 15, 2020
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
- 8-9PM - Cennet
- 9-10PM - 100 Días para Enamorarnos
- 10-11PM - La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, reina-sur2, telemundo
WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/18/20: Evils and Anvils…Too Much? Too Little?
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| Picture provided by Doris! |
In 70 BC, when writing about law and crime, Marcus Tullius Cicero opined, “Let the punishment be proportionate to the offenses.” And how many times has that happened (or not) in Telenovelalandia?
We can identify villains from the inception of the TNs and OH! how we tend to grit our teeth and throw nerfazos at them; though we know that their evil ways and crimes will only get worse as the story evolves. They plot, they lie, they prey on their victims mercilessly…and we hope that karmageddon comes sooner than later (sometimes to no avail).
For this week, we want you to delve into the villians of the past (or present) and the karmageddon which befell them. Who got what was coming to them and what did they get? Was it too much, too little, too quick?
If you need a refresher about some of the villains and their karmageddon, take a look at the index posted early last week of Karmageddon pages posted by Urban Anthropologist (thank you, Urban!!).
Read more »Labels: best-worst, telenovelas, weekend
Monday, June 15, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial) y más: Week of June 15, 2020
Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
- 8-9PM — Cennet
- 9-10PM—100 Días Para Enamorarnos
- 10-11PM—La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, reina-sur2, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs…y Mas!: Week of June 15, 2020
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to Daytime TNs! This page is being provided to give
those who are watching daytime TNs on any
channel a place to discuss any of the TNs aired prior to 6PM. If you would like to contribute a recap or
just some highlights for a daytime TN, I’m
sure there are those who watch the same TNs that would appreciate it.
This page can also be used as a forum to keep in touch, discuss
strolls down the Caray! Caray! memory
lane, or anything else that is of interest to the patio.
Please remember that ANY daytime novela can be
discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly
reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring
to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations
they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Vecina”; “Amores”)
"Daytime TNs" will be posted on
Mondays only. There will be a different page posted on Thursdays with a variety
of topics for week-end discussion.
Read more »Labels: daytime
Thursday, June 11, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial), y más: Week of June 8, 2020
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, reina-sur2, telemundo
Wednesday, June 10, 2020
WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/10/20: La adicción a las telenovelas
In which we have another telenovelalandia discussion while we adapt to the outdoor climate. Summer's heat and humidity have arrived and we give thanks for air-conditioning. Walking out the front door, these past few days, are like being at the beach. Warm, humid, breezy. Thank you (not!) tropical depression Cristobal.
List your answers to as many as you can and let's have fun with it. Some of us might have to consult Mr. Peabody’s Wayback Machine for answering 'A'.
This includes Telemundo and Looneyvision Univision telenovelas.
A.)
Which was the first telenovela you watched? (and which year?)
B. )
Why did you start watching telenovelas?
C.)
Why do you continue watching?
D.) Favorite telenovela(s)?
E.)
What color is your telenovela beanie hat?
Labels: telenovelas, weekend
Monday, June 08, 2020
TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Cennet, 100 Días para Enamorarnos, La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial), y más: Week of June 8, 2020
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 8-9PM—Cennet
• 9-10PM—100 Días para Enamorarnos
• 10-11PM—La Reina del Sur 2 (edición especial)
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.
By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: 100 días, cennet, reina-sur2, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs…y Mas!: Week of June 8, 2020
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to Daytime TNs! This page is being provided to give
those who are watching daytime TNs on any
channel a place to discuss any of the TNs aired prior to 6PM. If you would like to contribute a recap or
just some highlights for a daytime TN, I’m
sure there are those who watch the same TNs that would appreciate it.
This page can also be used as a forum to keep in touch, discuss
strolls down the Caray! Caray! memory
lane, or anything else that is of interest to the patio.
Please remember that ANY daytime novela can be
discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly
reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring
to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations
they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Vecina”; “Amores”)
"Daytime TNs" will be posted on
Mondays only. There will be a different page posted on Thursdays with a variety
of topics for week-end discussion.
Read more »Labels: daytime
Sunday, June 07, 2020
Karmageddon: Index
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