Monday, January 22, 2018

Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 6, 1/22/2018: Blithering, Blundering Buffoons Just Can’t Find the Words!


Thoughts and memories in italics
[Previously: At Logatoys, Mauricio sees a message from Juan Perez, a man who claims to know María. Fabian reads that Perez is asking to meet in a town close to where Anifer lives and claims to know where María is.] Mauricio wants Fabian to go with him because this thing about “blind dates” has always given him the heebie-jeebies. Fabian doesn’t think they should trust the man because he could be dangerous, but Mauricio thinks he has no choice…sometimes one has to trust a stranger’s generous offer; or do whatever it takes to return a child to its mother. When Mauricio asks if they still have the helicopter, Fabian confirms that they do; then sighs deeply in frustration as Mauricio walks away.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of January 22, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
• 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos**
• 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego**
• 8-9PM—José José, el Príncipe de la Canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

**Starting this week, Las Reglas del Juego will air for just one hour per day (1-2PM) rather than two.  A Turkish novela, Secretos Peligrosos, will air from 12-12:30PM, and Noticias will fill the remaining half hour (12:30-1PM)

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Saturday, January 20, 2018

Caer en Tentacion #65, 1/19/2018; Florencia is the 5th wheel and will make sand castles fall (or that Plot Gun is driving me crazy)


Present time:
Antonio tells Alina that if there is no physical evidence tying Santi to the crime, he still is a suspect for being the master mind. Alina asks “what makes you say that?” Antonio replies “the fact that the gun is his and the Beckers have evidence that he owed a significant amount of money to Damian.” Alina looks taken aback.
Raquel goes to see Santi. She looks weak, exhausted and tells him to resist because she needs him with her. She says she knows he did not do it. “Do you know who killed Carolina?” says Santi. She replies “I don’t know who killed her, but I do know how much you loved her, so you would not kill her.” “I thought you knew” Raquel says “no I have some ideas maybe, Miriam, Andres and possibly Vicente he is so unstable, but on the other hand Damian’s family always thought you guys were with us because you were interested in our money.” She then says “if I knew something I would tell you” Raquel continues and says “it’s important to know who took out the gun from the drawer” she speculates that maybe Carol, Santi says “what you think she took the gun out to commit suicide or to kill Damian?” {Ok patio, I need to stop here a minute…now when Raquel found the gun in the drawer she actually handled the gun right? So what is this supposition that Carol took the gun…My head is spinning…someone please tell me that Raquel did see the gun after Carol was already dead!!}
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Friday, January 19, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #5 1.19.17: Being a Father is Hard and Some Are Terrible At It

Anifer hears all the hurtful things Mauricio is saying about her and her mother and runs off, with tears in her eyes.

In Orlando, Veronica announces that she would like lobster and all the kids agree. They run off in search of the lobster stand as Veronica holds Tono back and asks him why he has such a long face. Tono asks her not to worry too much but there is the possibility that they will both be out of a job. He then runs off to control the kids as Veronica demands an explanation.

Neron arrives home and begins to pick up all of Milady’s toys as his kids knock on the door outside. They wonder what the probably is and Neron demands they are calm. After a few minutes, he lets them inside and they wonder why he’s being so weird. Ciceron notes that it doesn’t smell too bad, as fumigations usually do, and Socretes thinks the house is surprisingly tidy. Neron tells him not too think too much about it but Socretes wants to go to his room. Neron stops him and sits him down as Flor calls him and he runs to the kitchen. He doesn’t notice Ciceron pick up a pacifier nearby and show it to Socretes.

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Caer en Tentacion #64, 1/18/18: Treachery is Afoot Everywhere

Part 1 of 2
En el presente
Godoy and Antonio discuss the current state of the case against Santiago. They're working on comparing the fingerprints. Godoy tells Tonio that actually, there is something more important to add to the case. The Becker's lawyer says he has evidence to use against Santiago. Tonio says that until they get fingerprint results, they have nothing. They should have the results later that afternoon. Godoy is convinced this was not merely a crime of passion. Much more is in play. Godoy is going to go back and interview Vicente. Oh, and by the way, says Tonio, Laura was here asking about him. Be careful, he warns, a woman hurt is dangerous.

Miriam apparently saw Alina there at the police station and asks Rueda why she's there. He tells her she has information for him on Santi's case and will be presenting it to the judge. He does warn her that the fingerprints might not match, but not to worry, he has another card to play. It seems Santi borrowed a lot of money from Damian but never paid it back. Dam wrote him a very large check. Miriam is pissed that Dam never mentioned it. They agree that this is enough to put Santi behind bars until he rots away. Rueda says they can't use it right now, but later it could be used as a motive for the attempt on Damian. [ed. note: If this were the case, wouldn't Santi have made sure Dam was dead and not just knocked out?] Rueda proudly puts forth his theory--eliminate Damian; eliminate the debt.
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Thursday, January 18, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #4 1.18.18: Business Lessons from a Professional Playboy

The funeral director tells Renee that Lupe paid all the outstanding bills. Renee is shocked.

Outside Logatoys, Neron and Renee discuss what Lupe did. Neron doesn’t know what she should do but Renee is going to pay Lupe back because he shouldn’t be doing those things for her anyway. Neron wishes he could give her some money, but he’s barely getting severance pay, though Renee has an idea on where to get the money to pay Lupe and pay for her Masters.

Jorge informs Mauricio and Fabian that, without Mr. Fairbanks as an investor, they will need layoff half the staff to take care of the most pressing debts. Mauricio is against it, as they barely get paid minimum wage, but barely knows if his employees are salaried or hourly, let alone Jorge’s actual name. Fabian asks Jorge to leave them alone and reveals that he has found a last minute investor as there is a knock on the door. Fabian goes to answer and it’s Renee, who comes asking for a loan from Logatoys, much to their chagrin.

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Caer en Tentacion #63, 1/17/18: Will the Real Gun Thief Step Forward, Please?

Sorry for the late post, yesterday was crazy. I had a pet emergency, my kitten has a UTI (and a heart murmur!) and we had to rush him to the vet, in addition to that it was my step dads 72nd birthday and by the time the day was over I was DEAD. Below is your recap!


  • Santiago is arrested, the bullet fragments belong to a gun owned by his dad, a gun that Santiago insists has never left his house, but it looks like it has and he is headed to the big house.
  • Andres takes Raquel home, Cinthia says she will take care of her sister and make sure she gets better. Raquel's doctor thinks it would be a good idea for her to be in a hospital where she can rest and where they can control the environment and make sure nothing upsets her.
  • Raquel is put to sleep and later Mia visits with her, Raquel keeps calling for Santiago who she says only wants to take care of her.
  • Cinthia tells Fede that they need to stick together in order to help Raquel, Mia, again makes everything about herself and accuses them of excluding her and not thinking about her and her feelings.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 15, 2018 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
• 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
• 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

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Papá a toda madre Wednesday 1/17/18 Capítulo 3: Hip! Hip! Dubai!--OR--When the Nice Guy is the Wrong Guy

We start this episode in the funeral parlor where Renée is accepting condolences. There is Nerón her godfather and Flor, Jorge, (whose wife Dulce has not accompanied him), Verónica and Toño. Finally, there is Dr. Lupe who appears with coffee for Renée and tells her (for the first of many times) that he is there for whatever she needs. She is at the casket when the funeral director needs her to sign a few documents for the funeral home. The bill is 50,000 pesos (about $2,663). Renée is surprised by the cost. She talks to Verónica and Nerón about feeling so alone even though she is surrounded by so many people. Verónica reminds her that her mother just passed away today. Renée remarks that this has been the most intense day of her life: a wedding and a death and all that they need is a birth. Flor completes that trifecta by announcing that she feels like she is going into labor. Dr. Lupe takes control of the situation.
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Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Caer en Tentacion #62, 1/16/18: Trapped--Everybody is Trapped

(Scenes not necessarily in order)
Epoca Actual
Raquel tries to get away from the couple that is preventing her from leaving. She is now fully cognizant of who she was with, but not exactly where she is. The "hostage takers" tell her she cannot leave, that her family has been notified and Andres Becker is coming to pick her up. The man persuades her to take her medicine and lie down.

Meanwhile, Santiago has been at the house and after being told the woman he's looking for was there but left, has been sent on a wild goose chase to the local Greyhound station and maybe they can help him. Santi talks to a police or security officer at the bus station.

Rueda reports to Andres that apparently the gun that was used to kill Carolina belonged to Santiago. If it turns out to be true, a judge can put in an order to have him arrested. They think things will work in their favor and against Santi, especially with him alone with Raquel and outside the city. He can be charged with flight.
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Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #2 1.16.18: One Little Girl to Win the Hearts of Many

Renee smiles at Alejandro and waves goodbye before turning around and high tailing it out of there. Catalina and Alejandro run after her.

The little girl waves at Mauricio and runs to him as Mr. Fairbanks and Miranda wonder what is happening. The little girl hugs him tight, but Mauricio demands security take her away as he doesn’t know her. The girl claims that she doesn’t know him either but he’s her father. Miranda can’t believe Mauricio has a daughter, but Mauricio declares he does not and asks Fabian if it’s a joke. Fabian shakes his head and Miranda demands a clear answer. Mauricio tells her it’s all a misunderstanding and asks the priest to continue with the wedding. Miranda, however, reminds him that the little girl is still clutching his leg. The girl tells Mauricio that her mother wrote a letter with his name, Mauricio Lopez-Garza. Mauricio is shocked to hear he knows his name as is Miranda.

Alejandro runs after Renee and demands she go back in the church and marry him. Renee won’t though because her priority is her career and she doesn’t need a man’s permission to follow her dreams. She runs off as Catalina, and everyone, watches.

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Caer En Tentacion #61, 1/15/18: Raquel On The Loose





Jardinera apologizes for the mix-up. She's fallen ill to the current scourge sweeping the nation. Rather that delete her always well crafted recap, we'll just have double the pleasure.
  • Cinthia explains to Santiago that Mia's having a fit that her mama's not there; Raquel needs to come home and quick.  They may want to escape reality for a while but if Raq finds out that Mia's been sick and upset that she's not there with her there'll be Hell to pay.  Santi starts furiously looking for Raquel.

  • At the strangers' house in the town, the couple scheme to keep Raq there while the husband calls her rich family members off the phone list of names.  Raq remembers she left without word and got lost. Santi will be worried.  She looks for her phone and it's gone!  No way to contact him now.  She struggles to think straight; between her mental problems and the meds she's on it's hard to get two meaningful thoughts strung together.  The wife promises her that her hubby is out looking for him and will contact somebody for her.

  • Bebo agrees to accompany Lola to her abortion doctor's appointment.  He tries first to talk her out of this but she's stubbornly sticking to her guns.  No way she wants this pregnancy (let alone Juan's demon seed and a reason for Perv Profession pursuing her the rest of her life).  They head off once the babysitter arrives, and Stalker Man is there in his car spying on the two of them going off arm in arm.  

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Monday, January 15, 2018

Caer en Tentación #61, 1/15/18, Lunes: Obstacles

Chapter 61: Obstacles

Just the facts tonight due to time constraints and playback issues.

Cinthia called Santiago about Mia while he looked for Raquel. He did not tell her that Raquel was missing while she told him little about Mia, only that she was worried about her and that Mia needed Raquel.

Raquel's female captor gave her tea and offered her something to eat while Raquel frantically looked for her cell phone so she could call Santiago. The phone was not in her purse and was most likely in the hands of her captors. Raquel wanted to get outside to get some fresh air but the woman stopped her, telling her it was too dangerous for her to go out. She tried to tell her that she would take care of her while her husband was trying to contact her friends.
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Papa a Toda Madre #1 1.15.18: Be Careful Who You Marry

Memories are in italics...

On a yacht in the middle of the ocean, playboy and professional party animal, Mauricio Lopez-Garza (Sebastian Rulli), pops open a bottle of champagne with a sword and romances women by giving them a gold necklace with an “M” on it (not for marriage, oh no, he doesn’t do that) but so his conquests always remember his name. This is only his weekends though…

During the weekdays, he holds board meetings at Logatoys to propose new toys. His latest proposal is a replica of the very same yacht he was partying on all weekend. However, Fabian Carvajal (Mark Tacher), the general manager of Logatoys and Mauricio’s best friend, notes the obvious problem (that Mauricio can’t seem to comprehend): the model for said toy would cost the company a lot of money and, therefore, it would cost a lot to mass produce said toy. If this is the case, Logatoys would have to charge consumers a lot of money for it but most of their consumers don’t have said amount of money or a pool to play with the yacht. Mauricio, however, thinks the children could play with the giant yacht in the bathtub and be done with it. He asks the Logatoys lawyer, Jorge Turrubiates (Sergio Mur), to gather all the permits so they can reconvene in a couple of weeks. Jorge asks for a more concrete date, but Mauricio directs any further questions to Fabian. Once alone, Fabian tries to tell Mauricio that things at Logatoys aren’t on the up and up, but Mauricio is sure the upcoming “Child Day” will boast sales and they have nothing to worry about.

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Enamorándome de Ramón, 1/15/2018: Gran Fin…Por Fin!

Skipped Scenes in Blue
Previously: Fabi keeps asking Francystco where her daughter is, but as he is about to tell her where Ana is, Francystco passes out. While Ramón tries to hold Fabi back, Fabi curses and yells, “Damn you! You can’t die! Tell me where my daughter is! Tell me! Francystco! Francystco! Where is she?” As Ramón manages to pull Fabi away from Francystco, Francystco coughs and passes out.

Outside, Juana worries that they are taking too long and wants to go inside, but Antonio tells her the cops are doing their job. As Juana insists that they may need her help (yeah, right! if they really do, send in the parrot!), she sees Fabi and Ramón walk out and asks them for the baby. After Ramón tells them that Francystco was not able to tell them anything and that he is dying, Sofía yells from the patrol car, “Don’t even look for her! By this time, that child should be dead!” Fabi tries to dart toward Sofía, so Ramón holds her back, but Juana turns into Calamity Jane as her pigtails twirl furiously and she grabs a pistol from a cop. After she pulls Sofía out of the patrol car, Calamity Jane yells, “Get out! Get out! You tell me right now where my granddaughter is, or you die right here!” Ramón tries to tell Calamity Jane to let Sofía go, but Calamity Jane won’t be stopped.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 15, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
• 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
• 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción**
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

**Premieres Monday night (1/15)

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Sunday, January 14, 2018

Caer En Tentacion #60, 1/12/18: Raquel shows signs of losing her mind, and who wouldn’t.


In their little get away Raquel tells Santi how she felt when she first saw Damian in the hospital after the accident. When she saw him connected to the machines all she wanted was for him to wake up and tell her everything will be find instead she found out that he was with Carol and that she was his lover. She cries and asks Santi to forgive her “I have nothing to forgive you for I am here for you”
Vicente and Andres are in Andre’s office and Vicente tells him, “you don’t know what I am capable of doing” Andres tell him to get out of his office because threats don’t work with him. As he is getting out of the office he tells Andre’s “what happened to the money that Damian owed him."
Fede sees Vicente with Andres and asks Azucena "what is Carol's brother doing here with my uncle?” she tells him to go find out himself but he says he does not want them to know he is there.
Cynthia gets home and tells Jovita that Raquel will be fine, just don’t tell the kids she’s with Santi.
Then she asks about Mia, Jovita says "she is with a friend" Cynthia wants to know if it's Nico but Jovita says no, "it's Sammy"
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Saturday, January 13, 2018

Mi marido tiene familia Friday 1/12/18 Gran Final #2 Capitulo 102: Not Quite Happily Ever After . . . To Be Continued

Well, this is my last recap for MMTF and I am going to thank someone I have not ever thanked before: I want to thank Juan Osorio for bringing us such a heartwarming story in such an excellent production. It quickly has become one of my all time favorites. I cannot wait until the next season.

Next, I want to thank you, RgvChick, for joining me in recapping this story along with your EdR recapping. It was a pleasure working with you. We made a good team. I hope to work with you again in the future. :)

I cannot forget to thank Alfredo who got us started by posting discussion pages. His initiative made all the difference.

Finally, I want to thank you, the patio, for giving me a reason to write these recaps at all. Whether you simply read or commented once and a while or were a “regular,” your presence was noticed and valued. I always looked forward to reading the comments, opinions and interpretations expressed at our little oasis. I hope to see you on another patio very soon.

Now, back to the very last chapter in the story . . . I cannot wait to read your comments on this one . . .

After hearing the oompah-pah of the tuba one last time . . .

Julieta shows Luz a page of real estate listings. It is time to move. She feels that she and Robert need to make a life of their own. She would never do anything to stop the kids from seeing their family. Luz agrees that it is healthy to maintain a certain distance from the family. Julieta wants to be able to raise her own children without having the family giving their opinion about everything. Julieta is going to continue seeing properties. If Robert does not want to look for a house, Julieta will give him his part of the money and she will use her part of the money as a down payment. Julieta’s phone rings and it is Catalina. Catalina is upset because ungrateful Hugo and Diana are moving out and abandoning her. Julieta tells her that they have the right to have their own home. Catalina is worried about having no company. She feels worse than when Julieta’s father walked out on her. Julieta tells her she will overcome this and that she is going to grow a lot from this experience. Catalina moans that nobody understands her and hangs up.
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Enamorándome de Ramon, Friday January 12, 2018; Grand Final, part 1; Taken: The Search for Ana


We begin where we left off last night: “Fabiola keeps playing with her baby as Francisco looks on but doesn’t move. Just then, a woman arrives and asks Fabiola is she knows where a church is. Fabiola walks away for a moment to show the women where it is and then bids her a good day. When she turns back around, she finds that Ana is gone and begins to scream for help…  “

The lady asking for directions just walks off [I am wondering why Fabi didn’t go running after her to find out something and gotten her description to give to police.] Juana comes back and says she couldn’t have been gone for more than five minutes. A few helpful bystanders say they are calling the police.
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Friday, January 12, 2018

Caer en Tentacion #59, 1/11/18: Who is the Sicker One?

Some scenes have been combined to provide continuity.

Nacho thinks he knows who the ideal murder suspect is. Santi tells him to spill it, now. Ok, it's Miriam. Think about it. She's someone who knows every move they make, someone who is a master manipulator, who despises everyone around her, so why not Miriam. She could have planned it, she could have been responsible.

Santi can't believe she would ever want to harm her own son. He begins to recall how Dam gave them everything they asked for (and more). He concludes Dam did it just to distract him from figuring out what he and Caro were doing. Nacho still recommends taking their new suspicion to Antonio. After all, they put him in jail with no verifiable evidence, only circumstantial. Now Tonio should be willing to investigate Miriam.

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