Monday, February 19, 2018

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Sangre de mi tierra, Señora Acero 4, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of February 19, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi tierra**
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro**
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4**
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo**

**Both Sangre de mi tierra and Señora Acero 4 will end on Tuesday. On Wednesday, they will be replaced by Al otro lado del muro and Enemigo íntimo.  The Latin Times describes Al otro lado del muro as "a thrilling telenovela about two women who come to live in the United States: one chasing a dream and the other one escaping from a nightmare." A more detailed synopsis can be found hereEnemigo íntimo will star Fernanda Castillo, who played Monica Robles in El Señor de los Cielos. Castillo will portray Roxana Rodiles, "a woman with an obscure past and dubious business activities in the present."  The Latin Times offers more information here.

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Saturday, February 17, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 24, Friday February 16, 2018: Anifer will not accept Kika or "I am your father!"


We open with Kika on her pink phone (looks like a toy) telling whoever she is talking to that she hopes that (I assume Mauricio) will suffer and end up in the dog poo. Flashback to the past, when Mauricio was in high school. He helps a young Kika with the books she dropped on the stairwell. They become friends. Later he confronts her about some of his friends telling him that she is in love with him. She says that they are just friends and do a fist bump and declare their forever friendship. But Maur asks her, “But is it really true that you are in love with me?” Back to the present, Kika continues talking on that phone and says, “I will not forgive or forget” and hangs up then leaves.

At the baptism party Toño asks Jorge what happened on his trip because he looks like someone died. (Well yeah…) Even Renée chimes in and says he looks a lot more serious than he usually does. Jorge says it’s just a lot of work, but otherwise, everything is fine.  

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Caer en Tentacion #94, 2/16/2018: Federico issues ultimatums; Damian killed Carolina, maybe.

Note: Patio Uni has left the scissors for now. This is complete episode 94
 
Present time
Raquel hears Nico tell Fede that Santi went away with Alina and asks “are you sure Nico?” “Yes I'm sure” she says she is OK and leaves. Once she is gone Fede says that it may be for the better. Cynthia arrives home and senses the tension asks what is wrong and Fed asks her to go check on Raquel, that she just found out Santi did something and needs her.
Raquel is in her room crying when Cynthia gets there and asks what happened. “they lied to me again, I just found out Santi left town with Alina, I asked him and he said it had nothing to do with her, it was about Juan supposedly” Cynthia tries to justify him, and Raquel blows up at her “do you have any idea how hard it has been for me to trust anyone, for him as well this is a betrayal, he lied to me, I can’t believe it”
Nico goes to Mia’s room, she wants to know what he is doing there, he says trying to understand her, well “it’s easy you cheated on me” “do you have any idea why Alina was able to get in to my life?” because you never loved me and I never knew what to expect from you” they continue discussing she says Sammy told her everything, she is hurt so even though he asks for forgiveness he says the only thing that unites them is the betrayal of Damian and Carolina, just like Nico betrayed her. She asks him to leave, she is not interested she hurt him, he hurt her and now it’s over.
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Friday, February 16, 2018

Weekend Discussion 2/16/18: Karmageddon for the Tempted – Caer en Tentacion

Karmageddon for the Tempted – Caer en Tentacion

The evil ones of this tale are long overdue for punishment, folks. Let's talk about what the writers are likely to do and what we'd do ourselves. This is all up to Episode 93:


Andres Becker / Arath de la Torre – The Beast

Guilty of promoting prostitution involving borderline jailbait girls, possible paedophilia, blackmail, embezzlement, sexual harassment, attempted rape, sexual assault of helpless victim (Cinthia), conspiracy to frame innocent parties, menacing, corporate theft, money laundering, getting Laura to go on the air to lie about what really happened (and boinking her in the process).
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Caer en Tentacion #92/93, 2/15/18: The truth is out

Recap is done!

The truth comes out. Federico has followed Damian and has seen him with Carolina, he walks up to Damian's car and demands that he get out of the car and answer his questions.

Demian: Federico, please calm down"
Federico:" Don't ask me to calm down! You're cheating on mom!"
Damian:"what did you see?"
Federico:"I saw everything! Don't treat me like I'm stupid! I followed you here, I've been following you all along. I saw your attitude change, I saw how nervous you got when your phone rang, and it was because of Carolina, right? Have the decency to look me in the eyes and tell me the truth!"
Damian: " Yes, I have a relationship with Carolina."

Federico reproaches Damian for never looking at his mom the same way he looks at Carolina, and for cheating on her with his best friends mother, the wife of his business partner and his mother's best friend. He wants an explanation, all Damian can say is that he fell in love and could not help it, he is human and makes mistakes, just like anyone else. Federico wants to know if Damian plans on telling Raquel the truth but of course the answer to that is no, because Damian is a coward. Federico goes to answer Raquel's phone calls and Damian looks like he is going to pee his pants.
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Thursday, February 15, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #23 2.15.18: If Two Snakes Kiss, Do They Poison Each Other?

Or Fabian Shows Us What He is (Truly) Made of

Mauricio tells Renee that he knows she doesn’t like Kika. In fact, he could say she’s jealous. He runs out as Renee huffs and looks at Anifer, who shrugs.

At home, Veronica asks Tono to please clean the house a little for their guests. Tono nods but wonders who is going to cook. He suggests they order take out and Veronica finally agrees as Tono doesn’t know how to cook well. Veronica then asks him to please behave, so her boss sees how close their family is, but the dinner doesn’t guarantee that he will be hired. Tono understands and offers to tell his best jokes to see if her boss lightens up. Veronica laughs and nods.

The next day, Mauricio tells Fabian that Kika is beautiful, sexy, and even gets along with Anifer. Fabian asks if he trusts her, and all she says, and Mauricio is sure she is the persons she says she is. Fabian is still unsure, as it seems Mauricio likes Kika for other things, and not business, but Mauricio takes the hint and assures Fabian that he will separate business from pleasure.

At the hospital, Baldo demands to know why Jorge is still there when the doctor comes and announces that Yuriria has woken from the coma and wants to talk to her children. Jorge hopes this shows them the power of prayer but Baldo scruffs and walks away with Lili.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Feb 12, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en Alquiler
• 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
• 12:30-1PM—News
• 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego

• 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción
• 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
• 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

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Caer en Tentacion #90/91, 2/14/18: Love and Death; Only Death is Real

This is Anita filling in with some bullet points.
Part 1/3
En El Presente
. Santi and Raq talk on the phone. Catch up with the latest news.
. Next morning Fede tells Raq he and Mia will support her with anything she decides regarding Benji.
. Raq admits to being scared OF and FOR Mia.
. Santi rather reluctantly shares with Lola & Nico the information Ant passed on regarding Attack Guy and Garrido being involved in the accident. One of them confessed to helping provoke the accident and robbery was the motive. No news on Caro's killer, though.
. Ant and Nando strategize. Ant says it's so logical that it happened the way AG says it did, but something doesn't add up. When the two approached the crashed vehicle, they didn't have time to look for the money before they heard sirens heading their way. Ant muses, but then how did Dam's fingerprints get on the gun that killed Caro and why was it Santi's pappi's gun? AG claims only Dam was on the ground. (Flashback to the two guys doing their thing.)
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Wednesday, February 14, 2018

Papá a toda madre Wednesday 2/14/18 Capítulo 22: The Legendary Bad Penny Always Turns Up

Officials from the city visit Nerón and close his business down. Nerón first begs them not to but is told that he can either comply or end up in jail. He is then incensed. He knows that they want a bribe but he isn't going to give them one. He is an honorable man. There is no reason for them to close down his tire business. They tell him that he better take his complaint to the Public Ministry as they put up huge “closed” signs sealing the doorways of his business. Pablo tries to calm Nerón down and asks if he wants him to go with him to contest the action. Nerón says sure but only up to the door so they don’t get wind of him being here illegally and send him back to Guatemala.

Back at the school, Renée asks the priest to clarify what a normal and traditional family is. No problem there: it is one that is created by the Church in holy matrimony consisting of a father, a mother and children. She then asks what he thinks about single mothers and the kind of family she had with her mother and herself. Would he not consider that a family? The priest and the nun answer in unison and the answer is “NO”. The nun makes it clear that there is only one kind of family and Father Cutberto described it. Renée finds it unbelievable that they would expel a little girl for just asking questions that are age appropriate. She does not live in a bubble and realizes that there is so much more out there beyond what they are telling her. Mauricio agrees and adds that his daughter is quick and witty. She got her intelligence from him, of course. Renée tells the priest that it is they rather that don’t “fit” the needs of Anifer. The school is way too limiting for her. Mauricio likes that. The priest comes back with maybe it is not limiting enough since the child seems to have inherited her rebelliousness from her mother. The nun seconds that. Mauricio grabs Renée and pulls her close to him saying that Renée is defending their daughter like the mother that she is. She is completely right. This school is not at Anifer’s level. They won’t be expelling Anifer because he and Renée are leaving and taking Anifer with them.
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Caer en Tentacion #88/89, 2/13/18: Death and Denial::Let Downs, Take Downs, & Shake Downs

88: Death Succumbs Her 

A Chinese firedrill ensues at the worksite where Santiago has fallent about 15 feet off the ladder.  The ambulance comes and loads him up and Carolina meets the kids at the hospital.  He's going to need surgery and a nail put into a fractured leg.

Excited discussions at Legato that Federico overheard makes him surmise correctly that Papi has something on the side he's been trying to hide.  He and Damian go to lunch together.  He walks all around the topic to get a response from Daddy Dam; Dam accuses Fede of accusing him of something untoward. 


At the hospital, Carol and Lola confront the head of accounting/insurance agency? about their lack of insurance suddenly now due to a couple of unmade payments.  Caro had no idea and the two females harangue the guy unmercifully.  Caro angrily states she cannot believe that after paying gawd knows how much money to them all these years when they finally need it now they refuse to cover this accident over two missed payments!!  (Yup.  You go, girl!)  When she puts it that way (it sounds like the worst abuse in the world of legalistic bureaucratic power (which I agree, strict Girl Scout that I am, it is) the bureaucrat seems to back down and states that all they have to do is come up with the missed payments and the crisis is over.


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Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #21 2.13.18: Lying Won't Help You Now


Or Jorge the Hypocrite


  • Jorge hopes Yuriria is in treatment and going to get better but she shakes her head and tells him that she is terminally ill and has accepted it.



  • As the kids argue about who has brushed their teeth and who has not, Veronica threatens to return the dog to Rafael if they don’t behave. They agree to stop and Veronica asks them to make sure Carola is in a safe place while they are out so that her furniture is safe. Unknownst to her, Tono is brushing his teeth at the table, spitting toothpaste in the coffee cups cleaning his toothbrush in one of the glasses.



  • Yuriria explains that she didn’t think it prudent to tell him about her illness over the phone and is sorry. Jorge thinks there is nothing to apologize about and confesses that she is love of his life and he only realized it a short while a go. He cries as he says this.


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    Monday, February 12, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #86/87, 2/12/18, Lunes: Unnatural Killers / A Visit From the Reaper



    Chapter 86: Unnatural Killers

    Raquel and Damián continued their heated conversation regarding Andres' remarks about Carolina. Raquel seemed ready to accept Andres' assertions that Carolina would do anything for money but Damián knew his cousin much better than that. Raquel said she was looking into things to prove her own suspicions, that Carolina was hiding something, as this would ultimately hurt Santiago. Damián tried to avoid further conversation on this, claiming to be very tired. As he started to leave the room he wanted to know why that was such a big deal to Raquel. She reminded Damián that Santiago was his friend and business partner. He asked what proof she had and she said “You know Andres; there was no proof.” Damián did an about face, deciding he needed to speak to Andres right away. As he left the room Raquel called Santiago's cell phone, which was in the bedroom on the nightstand near Carolina.
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    Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 20, 2/12/2018: Careful with Those Gift Horses, Mau; You Might Get Kika’d


    Alt Titles: A Redeemed Flower and a Happy Plant
                    Papi Number 11, Kika’s Got Your Number!
    At Logatoys, Gladys tells Mau that Kika Braun is looking for him and she is there at the office, so Mau spruces up with a hair smoothing and mouth spray…which Fabian uses also. As they try to calm down, Mau tells Gladys to have Kika wait a moment.

    At La Chapianeca Restaurant, Juan Perez meets with Falcón and asks how he can be of service. After Falcón shows him his phone and tells him they must wait for orders, Perez agrees to wait, but wants to know who Falcón is and what it is he really wants. Falcón, however, replies that the less they know about each other, the better because, after all, his (Perez) name isn’t Juan Perez either. Perez backs down and agrees to wait for orders from higher up without any more questions. (OMG is it a Fisher Price takeover?)
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Feb 12, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

    Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en Alquiler
    • 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
    • 12:30-1PM—News
    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego

    • 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

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    Saturday, February 10, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #84/85, 2/9/18: Carol is determined to end the guilt; and Raquel finds out that Carol has been cheating on Santi (or does she?).

    Note: All cut scenes are in Red. [On some computer screens the red will only be black bold italic. --Edit.]  

    Episode 84
    In the present time
    Mia is in the hospital with Damian when he speaks and says “Carolina” Mia asks “do you remember who Carolina is?” he whispers again “Carolina” and starts going into convulsions, Mia begins to panic and starts yelling for a nurse to come. A nurse comes in and asks Mia to please leave. Mia looks stressed and is panicking.
    At Raquel’s house Santi comes to see Benji, Raquel hands Benjamin to Santi. Santi gets Benji and says lets go home and Benji {who in my opinion is the best actor in this TN} says “a la casa”. Santi asks Raquel “how did you do it how did she change her mind?” Raquel replies “She is going to give up custody, it’s complicated.” “you will be able to come visit him any time, as often as you want, you will be with him forever “ Santi wonders what Raquel means by come see him as often as you like and says “What do you mean come as often as we can, Lola Nicolas and I are his family”, “look at me I'm not your enemy, he will be fine, I only ask you to please understand” she asks him to be patient  he wonders why he always has to be the one to understand.
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    Papa a Toda Madre; Capiítulo 19, Friday, February 9, 2018; The Neighbors meet Rodrigo and Rafael, Renée’s new Tenants


    We left off yesterday with Mauricio meeting Kika Braun at the toy expo, who seems to recognize him, but he doesn’t seem to know her. But she being very beautiful and sexy, of course wants to know her and can’t believe he cannot remember her. [Don’t fall for this Mauricio, it looks like a trap!] She introduces herself and says that she thought he might have recognized her from being online. “My name is Chiquinquirá Braun, but everyone calls me Kika. See this magazine? I found you in this magazine.” Mauricio says, “It sounds like destiny to me, since this is such a coincidence.” The magazine refers to Mauricio as #11 most sought after bachelor. Maur says, “Well I know I didn’t make the top 10, but at least I’m still in the ranking, right?”

    Kika looks over at Mauricio’s display at the expo, and says, “Are those yours? Well I guess I’ll make the rounds here, but I’ll be right back.” Mauricio promises not to move

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    Friday, February 09, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #82/83, 2/8/18: The Party of Doom - The Aftermath

    El Presente is a continuation of Ayer
    Santiago is getting an earful from Lisa over the phone. She only *thinks* Vic could have killed Caro, well, because he's acting so strange. She tells him Vic keeps talking to Caro as if she were there. Lisa heard him say it wasn't his fault, to leave him in peace. She's scared. If he didn't kill her, why is he so tormented. Santi tells her he's on his way. They won't call the police until after he gets there, otherwise they'll get him a lawyer and he'll lawyer-up. Vic comes into the room and wants to know if she was talking to the police. She says she was talking to Santi. He gets violent and starts shaking her and yelling at her. Then he "sees" Carolina. He races out of the house to catch up with "her."

    Cintia and Nando are sitting together in Raquel's living room. They have some quiet moments as Nando says he needs to see her; he likes being with her; he likes talking to her; being with her is good for him; she makes him feel good. This leads to a gentle kiss.
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    Thursday, February 08, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #18 2.8.18: What do a blond, a brunette and a 6-year-old have in common?

    Or "Would I Lie to You?"

    Veronica meets with her boss in his office, not to reprimand her, but to offer her a promotion to Director of Innovation and Systems, if she accepts.

    Moments later, Veronica comes out of the boss’ office and tells the secretary that the meeting went better than expected and they even gave her the day office. The secretary suggests she enjoy her day and Veronica decides to send it with her family. The secretary then hands her the address she requested, and Veronica thanks her.

    At Logatoys, Mauricio and Fabian meet with Falcon to discuss the Miami trip. Leopoldo explains that Mauricio will have to pay his way if he wants to go. Mauricio argues that the trip is for Logatoys, to put them back on the map as an international brand, but Falcon shakes his head. Mauricio thinks he is trying to sabotage his company and Falcon finally agrees to pay for the trip, but he wants immediate results. Mauricio laughs and thinks it’s obvious he will get them.

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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of February 5, 2018

    TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

    Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—José José, el Príncipe de la Canción
    9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

    Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

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    Caer en Tentacion #80/81, 2/7/18: The Party of Doom (#77 according to Uni)

    Take aways from this episode:

    (1) I don't think Vicente killed Carolina, I believe he was involved in some way with the accident that happened but I do think that he loved his sister and although he was blackmailing her he would never have killed her.
    (2) Mia is way up on my list, I truly believe that she is mentally unstable. She makes up lies, she's obsessive and she manipulates people in order to get her way, but what puts her high on my list is that she seems to believe that once Damian wakes up they will be a perfect family. I'm wondering to what she would have done if she found out that Damian was with Carolina- would she kill to keep her "perfect family" together? I'm gonna say yes.
    (3) Carolina is a salty b*tch
    (4) Raquel has really nice arms.
    (5) Nicolas has really cute bed sheets.

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