Friday, May 19, 2017

La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo (LDVDEC) #9 5.18.17: Two Lawsuits and a Surprise Party Later...

Hey all! Sorry it's only bullet points but here goes:
  • Danilo asks Ruben to think of a way to benefit from his shooting but poor Ruben's still trying to recover.
  • Ryan comes and reveals that he went to Michoacan to find out more information about her past and everyone told him that her and Fausto took Herminia's and left her in the lurch. Laustela explains that Fausto lied and didn't tell her the money was stolen from her aunt; she found out later that it was Herminia's. She laments the fact that her aunt died thinking she was a thief but tells Ryan that she, Paloma and Rosario are gone after they pay her the festival money. Ryan hopes she keeps her word this time. 
  • Mercy then finds Ryan and insists she register Paloma as his daughter, pronto, and he reveals that she is actually not his. Sometime later, she tells Joe the truth about Paloma, worried, as Danilo can now impregnate any old bimbo and win the 20% of them.
  • Later, Laustela finds the box Ryan brought back with her things and cries, remembering her love for aunt. 
  • Mercy and Danilo have another confrontation and Danilo shuts Mercy up by telling her that she is looking mighty good lately, much to her surprise.
  • The next day, Genesis tells Laustela about the latest media scandal: Ruben reported Don Chayo for shooting him because he was jealous that his band was going to perform at the festival. Laustela is shocked as she thought Ruben had cleared up the incident and declared it was an accident.
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La Piloto #53 5.18.17: In Which Yolanda Gets Revenge…

• Yanez’s men throw John in the truck as Yanez tells Yolanda that the Lucios are done. Just then, Oscar shows up and begins to shoot at them as Yolanda escapes in the truck carrying John. Oscar manages to capture Yanez and his men, who surrender immediately.
• In the truck, Yolanda checks the gun she got from John and finds the magazine empty. She curses her luck.
• Oscar points his gun at Yanez and demands to know where John is. Yanez smiles before Oscar shoots him in the head. Oscar then shoots him two more times in the chest and leaves with him men to find John.
• Arley begs Amanda to stay but she realizes it was a mistake to come. Arley holds her hand and tells her that he is ashamed for having shot her and begs her (AGAIN) to forgive him. He confesses that he is now an enemy of the Lucios, who betrayed him, but Amanda will never forgive that Arley put his boss’ best interest above hers and their child. Arley begs her to listen and tells her that there is money hidden in Cielito Lindo and remembers when he first stashed it there, as Zulima was nosing about. He tells Amanda that he is sure the Lucios weren’t able to get it out and she should go get it and use it for their child. Amanda shakes her head but Arley begs her to use it for herself and for him because he’s going to escape. Amanda cries as Arley begs her to help him escape.

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Weekend Discussion, 5/19/17: Toxic Mothers, Round III

Now that we're past Mother's Day, it's time to review some of those that are undeserving of such honor. Do any of them come up to the level of Catalina Creel of Cuna de Lobos? Let's talk about this:
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Thursday, May 18, 2017

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Capo, La Querida del Centauro2, & más: Week of May 15, 2017

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Corazón Valiente
• 12-2PM—Gonul
• 8-9PM—El Capo
• 9-11PM—La Querida del Centauro2  (repeats 12-2AM except Friday 12-1AM)

Guerra de Ídoles has been relegated to Saturday nights, 9-11PM. Even so, folks may certainly discuss the novela here if they wish.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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La Piloto #52 5.17.17: In Which Yolanda Makes Her Move...

• Dave takes Monica up the stairs and to her apartment. He asks her how she feels and she said nothing would make her feel worse than her sister’s death so she’s fine. He thinks it was stupid that she went alone, especially to arrest Yolanda, but Monica reiterates that she had to because he is the only one who still thinks Yolanda is going to help them. Dave explains that Yolanda has disappeared; she went to Christian’s funeral and no one has seen her since. Monica thinks she will appear soon, as always, and Dave hopes so. He then tells Monica that he already confirmed Montgomery is working with the Lucios and was able to take his cell phone but he needs someone’s help to unlock it. Monica promises to help him with that as Raul and Lizbeth come. He’s happy to see her and tells them that Lizbeth has taken care of him very well while they were out. Lizbeth is also happy to see her and Raul explains that his contact in Tres Fuegos found Margot’s car abandoned a few blocks from the house but there was no trace of Yolanda. Dave shakes his head.
• That night, Yolanda sighs and lies down in a bed in Yanez’s house. She remembers when she ran to John in the airstrip and he confessed to ordering her murder. She then remembers her plan to capture the Lucios and extradite them to the US. her bed. She gets off the bed and sits in a nearby chair to make a call.

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La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo (LDVDEC) #8 5.17.17: Danilo is the Man with Several Plans…

• In Michoacán, Ryan converses with the Padre Otero about Laustela. Otero explains that she used to sing in the chorus and eventually came to lead it before she left. He also explains that Laustela’s mother was a single mother, who eventually left her with a tia-abuela named Herminia, who took care of her despite her advanced age. Ryan confirms that he is a friend of Laustela, and used to see her when she taught music in el Gabacho, but lost track of her years ago. He had some pressing business close by and decided to visit her town because she used to speak highly about it. Otero is happy to hear about her after all those years but because he never did again after she left. Ryan asks if he knows why she did and suggests she had problems with her husband. Otero stands up, surprised to hear that Laustela married that boy she used to date.
• Mercy wonders how Laustela will convince Don Chayo to sing at the festival since she’s a stranger but Laustela reminds her that she is the best person to explain that Ryan, and Furia, has been cleared of all charges. Joe also has his doubts and Mercy orders them to keep looking instead of wasting time trying to convince Chayo. Just then, Danilo limps in surprised that they have a meeting without letting him know. Mercy explains that Ryan is in New York so she is taking care of any pressing business but Danilo reminds her that she is no longer alone and that he can help. Mercy tells him that the meeting is over but she will get him up to speed. Everyone exits the board room expect Mercy and Danilo.

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017

La Piloto #51 5.16.17: In Which Yolanda Hides From Everyone But Yanez...

• John and his men torture Monica, now tied up with rope from head to toe, by placing a plastic bag over her head. He calls her pretty but Monica shies away from his touch. He continues to ask her where Dave is but Monica is quiet. John shrugs and tells her that he will get the information out of her the hard way. Just then, Monica’s phone rings and it is Dave. John answers and asks Dave where he is. Dave is shocked to hear John and asks him what happened to Monica. John tells them they are just talking but Dave vows to kill him if he does anything to Monica. John reminds him that he can kill her whenever he wants and Dave asks him what he wants. John tells Dave to come to them and bring Yolanda but Dave tells him that he doesn’t know how to find her. John suggests he does, soon, and hangs up. John then tells Monica that they will finally see if Dave loves her as much as Monica loves him.
• On the side of the road, Yanez agrees to help Yolanda and tells her that John is in Olivia’s house and they need to call the police. Yolanda wants to call Olivia first, who is on her way there, and Yanez hands her a phone. Yolanda calls Olivia immediately, who is close to her house, and warns her to not go home because john is waiting for her. Olivia nods and tells the taxi driver to not stop and then hangs up.
• Zulima converses with the Senator, who chides John for not appreciating a woman like Zulima. He suggests she come with him so she can take advantage of all his privileges as the future President of Mexico. Zulima laughs and tells him that any woman would love to hear his promises but she knows he won’t leave his wife and she will not be his lover. She thanks him and tells him she can’t accept. He nods and asks if she thinks she’s the only woman in John’s life. She is quiet and the Senator asks her to look him up should she change her mind and leaves.

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La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo #7, 5-16-17, Breaking News: Dead Men DoTell Tales

Anita, here, substituting for Alfredo, so he can have the night off. I apologize for the lack of detail, but my heart is in it. Some short scenes have been combined. Ok, here  we go---

Lo de Ayer
Laustela tries to convince Mr. Everwood of the real reason for the mass shooting at the Foundation. He refuses to believe that it’s all about the gangs trying to re-establish lost territory by frightening the citizens of Riverside into looking to the gangs for protection. That and then recruiting new gang members, even from the Foundation. Estela is there to warn him. He still doesn’t believe her and points out that the home invasion at Estela’s proves the action was taken against her specifically and not by throwing blame for the danger to the neighborhood on others. She knows that El Caravelas, a gang member is involved. Everwood is still not convinced as he’s the nephew of Bettina, who is very helpful to the foundation. He thinks Estela is the one responsible and trying to blame others.

Meanwhile, at the La Furia offices, after the reading of the will, Ryan is trying to calm a very agitated Mercy saying he will never abandon her or leave her unprotected. That’s not what she’s worried about. She’s worried about Ryan and what will happen to La Furia in the hands of that buffoon—as she points to Danilo. Ryan is calm. He says what’s written is written and he plans to follow his father’s wishes.
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Tuesday, May 16, 2017

La Piloto #50, 5-15-17: Changing Sides And Re-assessing Alliances



Yolanda remembers Dave’s saving her and giving her back her medallion as she heads off to Christian’s funeral

Lisbet visits Raul Arguelles, late of the Federales.  She gives him the doctor’s bad news about never walking again-or at least it being very unlikely.  She plans to stay by his side.

Col. Santa Maria tells Reyes that when they get to the border, Reyes is going to use his head and his papers to get the three of them safely across the border into Nicaruagua on their way to Mexico.

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Monday, May 15, 2017

La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo (LDVDEC) #6 5.15.17: Everyone's Lying & Some are Almost Dying...

• In the car, Laustela laments the fact that Paloma’s teddy bear is destroyed; she cannot give it like that to the girl. Ryan reminds her it is only a teddy bear but Laustela thinks he only says that because he doesn’t have kids. After a moment of silence, she chances the station and raises the volume of a regional music song and begins to sing along. Ryan is surprised is knows all the words and Laustela confesses that it reminds her of home. She goes to turn down the volume but Ryan stops her and they share a moment. She asks if he is done asking questions and Ryan confirms he is, for now. She then asks her if he is willing to help her and Paloma become legal citizens and Ryan confirms he will, as long as she goes along with their charade for as long as he needs her too. Laustela reminds him that their “relationship” is in appearances only and Ryan chides her for nagging so much. He assumes that is why Paloma’s father left but Laustela prefers he keep trying and stop asking stupid questions. She raises the volume again and Ryan tells her that he can introduce her to Don Chayo. Laustela is ecstatic but asks if that too is part of their deal. Ryan smiles but is quiet.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Capo, La Querida del Centauro2, & más: Week of May 15, 2017

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Corazón Valiente
• 12-2PM—Gonul
• 8-9PM—El Capo
• 9-11PM—La Querida del Centauro2  (repeats 12-2AM except Friday 12-1AM)

Guerra de Ídoles has been relegated to Saturday nights, 9-11PM after barely a few weeks.  Apparently Telemundo does not consider patience to be a virtue. Folks may certainly discuss the novela here if they wish.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Sunday, May 14, 2017

La Piloto #49, 5-12-17: It Finally Dawns On John...Or Does It?


 Parte 1~~


John suddenly suspects that Zulima and brother Oscar have been lying to him about Yolanda still being alive.  Zuli manages once again to “bewitch” the damnable bastard into believing she knew nothing; but Oscar apparently did.  And, Os didn’t kill Christian like he had agreed to either!  Estela is alive and kickin’ as well.  John is filled with self-doubt for once.  Muy pero muy impactado is he!  Could his brother really be defying him and going behind his back and… why?  Zoo plays Ms. Naïve and helpless. “—Well Oscar’s been really strange lately.  I heard the guards talking about things.  Forgive me!  I didn’t want to worry you.”

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Saturday, May 13, 2017

La Doble Vida de Estela Carrillo, #5, Friday 5/12/17 Ryan saves Estela, Estela saves Ryan. But who will save Danilo… from his own stupidity?

The old:

Ryan takes Estella, Chayo and Palomita to his mansion. Mercy almost has a heart attack in seeing them, but Ryan says he brought his "family" home, so she better deal with it, or else...
In order to keep up the pretense of a reunion, Estella and Ryan need to share the same room, so Paloma has to sleep with Chayo in a separate part of the house.
Also, Estella just happens to get a glimpse of Ryan's "goods" - the girl likes what she sees and he doesn't mind the admiration. Dudes, I understand that you have to play pretend, do you wanna make things easier by just going for it?

Mercy goes to a bar and who is there to join her? Young, married Joe, the company lawyer and Mercy's boy toy apparently.
Danilo sees them making out in the car later in the evening - he's sure to take advantage of this bit of information later on. He also realizes that working for El Dorado comes with serious, dangerous strings attached. Will this be enough for him to say no?
On the other hand, Morgana is more than willing to accept the deal.
Mercy and Pedro Carillo apparently share a common history. She has his picture hidden in her room - wonder what this is about...
  
The new
The Mansion
We pick up with Mercy again, while she’s burning Pedro Carillo’s photo. She looks serious. And crazy.

Estella is in panic mode because Paloma has disappeared (so she believes). The housekeeper explains that she overheard a conversation between Ryan and Mercy – Paloma was present and she was saying that she wants to go back home, in Riverside. So is that where Ryan took the girl?
Estella is about to explode. Why would he take Paloma? How dare he not inform her first? Just then Mercy comes to the kitchen, and doesn’t understand what the big fuss is about? Isn’t Ry Paloma’s dad?
Uhhhh, yeah, sure, but it’s not like he’s very paternal, Estella insists and not even Chayo’s attempts to calm her down succeed. Mercy wonders why Estella decided to testify and tell Ryan about having a child together – were his letters such a turning point for her? Also, maybe she should take some anxiolytics if she’s so nervous (hehe). Chayo thinks a tea would suffice.
Estella wants neither, she storms off in search of Paloma. She won’t take Chayo with her, in case Daddy Kidnapper shows up. 

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Friday, May 12, 2017

La Piloto #48 5.11.17: In Which Yolanda Realizes Dave May Not Be Such a Bad Guy...

• The Lucios and their men look around but they don’t find Raul anywhere on his floor. Oscar assumes it was Monica who busted him out and John agrees. He radios his men at the entrance and as them to keep a lookout for Monica.
• Downstairs, Monica weeks Raul out through the parking garage exit. She tells him that they are going to her apartment and run out to the street.
• Moments later, the Lucios arrive at the parking garage but find it empty. Oscar asks John what they will do now but they don’t have time to think about it as they hear sirens. The Lucios and their men run.
• In the coroner’s van, Olivia finds it strange that Yolanda hasn’t arrived yet and Wilmer wonders if Dave caught her. Estela suggests they call her but Olivia wants to give her more time lest Dave catch her trying to answer her cell. The coroner continues to struggle against his restraints and Estela threatens to shoot him if he doesn’t stop. Wilmer laughs at the fact that her and Yolanda are a lot alike.

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La Doble Vida De Estela Carrillo #4, 5-11-2017 Discussion

Hi all-

 I fell asleep before the episode came on, I'll watch it now and have a recap later, in the mean time discuss!

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Vino El Amor 5/12/17 Alternate Ending is Finally Dunne


It's been a little while since I've visited wine country. It was time to catch up with some of the people I've met there. While it's usually a little more relaxed than the social scenes in the major cities, it's not without tales with more juice than the grapes in Napa Valley. Here is a section from my forthcoming book, More Grapes of Wrath.
– D.D.

It was 1 AM and David Robles could not sleep. Most would think that normal for a bridegroom, even one who had previous experience of this event. The truth was he had looked for any excuse to not marry Graciela.
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Vino El Amor: Alternate Endings 5/11/17

Note:  This will have multiple endings added as they come in.  Mine is posted on its own only because I am extremely verbose.  My apologies if that looks narcissistic.  Julie's has been added.

Delilah's ending

Luciana realizes that the best thing is for her to finally put HERSELF first. She tells her family that she realizes she needs to be away to grow and pursue her love of wine and so she is going to travel through Europe and taste wine, maybe work at a vineyard. It's heartbreaking for David especially who begs her not to leave, but alas she does anyway vowing to always love him. 
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Thursday, May 11, 2017

Vino el Amor y Se Fué, Postmortem, 5-11-2017


ALONG CAME LOVE, PASSED THROUGH AND KEPT ON GOING




Disgraced Came Along and Ruined Everything
FIRST AND FOREMOST
Julie:  Here are some lessons I've learned from VEA:
- Women are hopelessly fickle.
- Men are hopelessly fickle.
- True love is a fantasy.
- People really can change...they can get meaner and dumber.

Susanlynn: So many lessons learned via this show....all of them depressing .  In most telenovelas in the past, women viewers want to be with the galan and male viewers want to be him. In this show…not so much.

Now, presenting a DisGraced Graciela with a few Dudveeds thrown in for variety. This round-up is not comprehensive or complete. Many of the contributions come from 4 of our wordsmiths, Kirby, Susanlynn, Lila and Julie. The Patio thanks them for the diversion and helping us through this show.

Urban: on Graciela: “She is a legend in her own mind. She thinks she is All That and a Bag of Chips.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Capo, Guerra de Ídolos, La Querida del Centauro2, y más: Week of May 8, 2017

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

SCHEDULE ALERT: from your faithful, if erroneous admin. This WAS to have been Thursday's post, but as I am out of the reach of internet OR television this week, please take it with a large grain of salt. I've been led to understand that Telemundo (as it grasps desperately for ratings) has been playing fast & loose with the schedule, so pay heed to your fellow commenters who are more current than I.

Here's [ed note, was] Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Corazón Valiente
• 12PM-2PM (Tues -Fri)—Gonul
• 8-9PM—El Capo
• 9-10PM—Guerra de Ídolos
• 10-11PM—La Querida del Centauro2

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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La Piloto #47 5.10.17: In Which Yolanda Gets Caught (Again)...

• Wilmer arrives at the airstrip field and finds Raul. He tells him he needs a doctor as Dave comes behind him and orders Wilmer to drop his gun. Wilmer tells him he found Raul like that and Dave goes to see if he can help Raul. Monica comes and Dave asks her to call an ambulance. She obliges as Dave goes to check Arguelles’ pulse and finds him dead. He then asks Wilmer who he is and Wilmer explains that he came with Yolanda in a motor home. Dave goes to help Raul again and tells him help is on the way.
• Sometime later, Dave drags Wilmer to his car with Monica in tow and asks him how he knows Yolanda. Wilmer explains that he works for a telephone company and was helping Olivia find her brother by tracing the outgoing calls made from Lucio cell phones. He met Yolanda through Olivia and came with her to meet up with her boyfriend, John. Dave asks why John wanted to kill her but Wilmer doesn’t know so Monica asks where Olivia is. Wilmer explains that she is with Christian, who was shot yesterday when they rescued him and Estela. Dave orders Wilmer to take them to the hospital and push him into their car.
• Yolanda arrives in Mexico City and parks the RV. She begins to cry and goes over to Olivia’s revenge board and pulls off a photo of John. She remembers when she met up with John at the airstrip and he confessed to ordering her murder. She cries some more.

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