Wednesday, December 11, 2019

El Dragón #50, 12/10/19: Ishiro to the rescue!




We begin with Chisca finding the Efilina in Mig’s closet in the secret hiding place. Meanwhile, in Isabela’s apartment, Val is conspiring with Piero regarding how to get the Efilina from Miguel. Piero says that they are going to murder Miguel. Almost as though he has a conscience, Val looks troubled and tries to say that won’t work because Miguel is a Samurai. But Piero says this time things will be different and the Japanese guy won’t get in his way. Then Val’s phone rings and of course it’s Chisca with the good news that she found the Efilina prototype. Val puts her on speakerphone so Piero can hear. Then Val tells her to meet him at his apartment.

As Piero leaves, he hands Val a gun as a “just in case.” Isabela comes downstairs and Val tells her he has to leave. She tells him to be careful.

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Tuesday, December 10, 2019

El Dragón #49, 12/9/19: Escape


Some small details missing but not enough not to post.

Sevilla: Paco arrived at Loca Maria's and heard Miguel calling for help. He must have been nuts because she distracted him from entering the gate and he went on his way.


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Monday, December 09, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno & Ringo - Week of Dec. 9, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for”Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE or RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 104-106
  • 8-9PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 6-8
We now have two TNs being covered by this page so PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.

֎֎֎ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! ֎֎֎
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Sultán, El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of December 9, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 8-9PM—El Sultán
• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso**
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

**El Final del Paraíso will have its gran final this Monday, Dec. 9. Beginning Tuesday, Telemundo will offer a program in the 9 PM time slot entitled Decisiones: Unos Ganan, Otros Pierden. Each day will feature a different stand-alone episode that revolves around a momentous decision, one that changes the lives of the main characters for better or for worse.  Since CarayCaray is devoted to telenovelas, Decisiones will probably not be included here.
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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Dec. 9, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas”; and Andy is providing them for “Mañana.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 67-69
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 38-40

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)

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Saturday, December 07, 2019

El Dragon #48, 12/6/19 (Season 2 Episode 10): All Tied Up


We left off on Wednesday night with Miguel handcuffed to a bed. Which under the right circumstances some might find interesting, however, this seems to be against his will, and after being drugged. Chisca has been caught by Ishiro in Miguel’s room, and Zaragoza being beat with a bat by his old friend Epig, and Tania Farchala’s mother being held at gun point by crazy Hans. This episode is a little rough. I did most of it live and then just looked at a few scenes for some dialogue I had missed. Since I am actually on the East Coast this weekend, I didn't get a chance to watch it live early in the evening and then recap from the playback. Hats off to all of you who do this in real time. Because my brain hurts by midnight. Hope it makes sense and enjoy.

So in Maria's house we pick up where we left off with Maria saying they are going to be so happy. Miguels confused, asks, what are you saying Maria, take off the handcuffs.” She is psyco. “What I like the most about you are your eyes.” He calls her crazy and she gets crazy upset. I am wondering if that is the problem that occurred when her medicine ran out. And why she lives in the middle of nowhere alone. He tells her “free me, right now.” “You don’t know who you are messing with, they will come looking for me. What do you want? Money?” Maria tells him that she doesn’t like his tantrums and said they will talk at dinner. Then she calms down and asks him if he likes tomato soup. That if he doesn’t answer, she will make what she wants.
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Thursday, December 05, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno & Ringo - Week of Dec. 2, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. We have a Gran Estreno this week for “RINGO: La Pelea de Su Vida.” Diana and RGV Chick are providing recaps for this TN, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, you are welcome to join in anytime. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE or RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 103-104
  • 8-9PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 4-5
We now have two TNs being covered by this page so PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
֎֎֎ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! ֎֎֎
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Sultán, El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of December 2, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
  • 8-9PM    -  El Sultán
  • 9-10PM  -  El Final del Paraíso
  • 10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. 
Thanks for your cooperation!

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El Dragón #47, 12/4/19 (Season 2 Episode 9): Discussion Page (Recapper Anita MIA)

Pardon the delay for the posting of the page. Wires crossed, holiday mayhem, JUAREVER! But here it is, now let's all join hands (and fingers) and get those memory cells working to get all the sordid details of this episode on here...and discuss away!

GO TEAM!!

Kirby Saves the Day with His Brilliant Faster Than a Speeding Bullet Highlights... "Read More!"
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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Dec. 2, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for "Hijas;" and Andy is providing them for "Mañana." Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 65-66
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 37

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)


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Wednesday, December 04, 2019

El Dragón #46, 12/3/19 (Season 2 Episode 8): Another toast to….whatever…




We open with Howard convincing the Panamanian officials he needs a court order from the judge immediately because this is the tip of the iceberg. Then he goes with the police with his court order, but only finds an old man who says he is paid by some lawyer named Aventour to receive mail. He gives Howard an address, so Howard leaves. He goes to the next address and is very frustrated to find nothing. He asks who pays the rent, but the answer is, “it’s paid in cash.” No iceberg, no tip. Nobody knows anything.

At the newly remodeled Garza offices, Jimena arrives for a staff meeting. Trejo announces that the problem in Panama with Aventour is now solved. He says they will now have to be even more careful about security. Then Jimena makes some remark about the cyber security, taking a poke a Flaco. Trejo says they just need to stay alert.

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Tuesday, December 03, 2019

El Dragón #45, 12/2/19 (Season 2 Episode 7): I'll Drink to That




Some details missing but not enough not to post.

Miami: Howard was punked by Miguel, who sent someone over to call him out on his swinger status.

Mexico City: Trejo delivered Miguel's instructions. Flaco talked about movies and other viewing patterns (TV vs. cellphones).

Miami: Howard got on Miguel's case about spying on his private life, possibly with the motive of discrediting him. Miguel is not intimidated.
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Monday, December 02, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno & Ringo - Week of Dec. 2, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. We have a Gran Estreno this week for “RINGO: La Pelea de Su Vida.”  A listing of characters is provided under the "Read more." There are no recappers for this TN, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE or RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 100-102
  • 8-9PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 1-3 (Gran Estreno!!)
We now have two TNs being covered by this page so PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.

֎֎֎ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! ֎֎֎
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Sultán, El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of December 2, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
  • 8-9PM  -    El Sultán
  • 9-10PM -   El Final del Paraíso
  • 10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
El Sultán begins Monday, December 2.   "A story full of love, betrayal and intrigue that tells the rise to power of "Suleiman the Magnificent", one of the most important figures in the history of the Ottoman Empire.  During his conquest of the world, 'Suleiman' will find himself in the midst of a power struggle between the two most influential people in his life, who will unleash a bloody game full of intrigue, conspiracy and death."

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Dec. 2, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 62-64
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 34-36

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)


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Sunday, December 01, 2019

El Dragon #44, 11/29/19 (Season 2 Episode 6): Saving Lives, Exposing Secrets


Sorry this episode is posted a little late. I started yesterday and about half way through, was burned out. So I had to finish this morning. But I am on the west coast so various hours behind most. Next week I will be on the road again reporting from the Eastern Time Zone, I hope I can get through it.

This episode seems to pick up into what I wrote last night. Edna is searching Garza transport, looking for illegal substances in the trucks. And my assumption is that the anonymous call that was received was from good ol Valentin. They search the truck and find nothing. All the while the trucks that did contain the illicit merchandise escaped just in time. Zaragoza handled the merchandise upon its delivery to the empty warehouse.

Peligros and the guys are talking about whether or not they would get caught. Peligros is sure they are fine. He complains to Edna that the guys need to get back to work or their loads are going to be delivered late. Edna resigns herself to the fact that they got away with it this time.
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Saturday, November 30, 2019

El Dragon #43, 11/29/19 (Season 2 Episode 5): Hector's Great Plan!

El Dragon - Season 2 Episode 5 - November 29, 2019

Good evening,

We left off Wednesday with Edna and Hector in cahoots to get to the bottom of the murder of Hectors sister, but Edna turned the tables and ended up putting Hector on the spot about Miguel. Will Hector betray his friend to the authorities to see Epigmenio behind bars. Tonight we will see.

Hector defends Miguel, he tells Edna that he provided her with evidence that Carlos Duarte is guilty. She badgers him, but he tells her that Miguel has been his friend his whole life and that he has done nothing but help him investigate his sisters murder. She tells him that there is no way he has his hands clean, or why would they put a bomb in his place. Hector says he has no idea and keeps Miguel out of it completely. Edna tells him that he asks for a lot but cooperates only a little. Hector asks her if it is insignificant the fact that he is bringing her evidence to incriminate Carlos Duarte. Edna says they will do it his way and start with cutting off the heads he proposes. But that once the war starts, there is no going back.
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Thursday, November 28, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 99 (Friday)
Please Note: Evening Univisión TNs will be preempted on Thursday, Nov. 28th due to Fútbol. On Friday, El Dragón will air for 2 hours (from 9-11PM)

Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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El Dragón #42, 11/27/19: Does it Have to be All About Chisca?

Will Chisca be the instrument of Miggy’s downfall?
Back home in CDMX, Chisca has a sorrowful reunion with Dora. It doesn’t last long. She’s soon at the mercy of Mig’s (righteous) wrath. What was she thinking? She exposed herself and the family once again. She could have been the one who died. She can’t answer his questions directly. He claims he’s only judging her and her behavior. (Ishiro stands behind her, just out of focus.)  Mig mentions how the Prosecuting Attorney has him in her sights at the precise moment she pulls this stunt. Chisca grabs onto whatever she can to absolve herself. “That’s what it’s all about—your businesses. You care nothing about your family. You only care about yourself.” Well, it doesn’t sting Mig the way she had hoped. So she goes for the self-pity. She declares she just lost the only friend she had. Dora welcomes her back into her arms. Ishiro has a stoic look on his face. It can’t be read. Is it pity, anger, concern? Maybe all three.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 25, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

•   8-9PM—El Sultán (starts Monday, Dec. 2)**
•   9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

**A new novela, El Sultán, is scheduled to begin this coming Monday, Dec.2, in the 8 PM time slot. A Turkish novela dubbed into Spanish, El Sultán was inspired by the life of Suleimán the Magnificent, who consolidated the Ottoman Empire. Telemundo offers the following summary: A story full of love, betrayal and intrigues that tells the rise to power of "Suleiman the Magnificent", one of the most important figures in the history of the Ottoman Empire, who assumed power when he was only 26 years old.  "During his conquest of the World, 'Suleiman' will find himself in the midst of a power struggle between the two most influential people in his life, who will unleash a bloody game full of intrigue, conspiracy and death where the final victory will have a high price."  Telemundo also has a short trailer.

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 60-61
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 33

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragón #41, 11/27/19: Lotsa Interruptas Going On

The complete recap for Episode #41 follows. Episode #42 will have its own page. Enjoy!

Petite Rewind
Victor sees Dora pass down the hospital hallway. He thinks he recognizes her. Dora enters Adela’s room and sees her sleeping. She has a pillow and presses it down over Adela’s face. Harder and harder. Adela stirs briefly.

Almohadacide Interruptus
Someone knocks. Dora stows the pillow and hides. It’s El Gato!! He approaches Adela—just wanting to talk. He sees her in distress. Just then doc also interrupts. Dora slips out while he deals with the raggedy interloper. Doc returns to check Adela. She thought she was suffocating. He tells her it was a case of Post Trauma—she inhaled a lot of smoke. Dora has re-entered to check in on Adela. She immediately scolds Ade for telling Mig what she told her not to tell him. It only served to open back up old wounds. Ade tells her she didn’t mean that to happen. She just couldn’t keep quiet about it. She thought she was helping. In the end, Mig thanked her for telling him. Dora scoffs. What else did she think he was going to say?
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Warm Wishes from the Caray, Caray! Family


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Wednesday, November 27, 2019

Weekend Discussion 11/27/19: Comparing Cunas




There are only two versions of this story to my knowledge. The original Cuna de Lobos (1986) was so hugely popular that the streets of Mexico city were dead on the night of its finale. This was also at a time when Televisa had no real competition and there were fewer channels to watch. The story defied previous attempts at a remake due to many changes in scientific research and technology, not to mention a previous attempt by the wrong producer.

I have only seen the original up to episode 52 (out of 85) but even without the later details I agree with everyone that 25 episodes are not enough to tell this story. However, the seeds of a good remake are in the current one due to most of the following changes:

The Larios Family

The current version has most of the family younger than their counterparts in the original. The same age difference between Jose Carlos and Alejandro is in effect. What appears to be different is that the business owned by Carlos in the original is one formed several generations before him instead of by him, so the family's money is much older. In keeping with current trends at Televisa, their residence is more modern in the current version.
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Cuna de lobos, Capitulo 25 Martes Gran Final 11/26/19: Unspeakable



Once in a while one finds a criminal whose evil is not easily explained. Someone like Catalina Creel defies definitions outside of “psychopath.” However, that is too small a word for her. I was raised Catholic, so I still believe that there is unspeakable evil in this world and – sadly – that we cannot explain every example. I do not know whether I believe in reincarnation but if that were true perhaps Catalina is the reincarnation of someone the likes of LiviaDrusilla or perhaps Belle Gunness, who was never caught. – D.D.
Vega's body was zipped into a body bag and wheeled out of the makeshift operating room.
Luis' phone rang with good news. He called José Carlos to tell him that they had succeeded. He took his keys and left.
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El Dragón #40, 11/26/19: Murder she wrote


In the hospital room Adela flatlines. Miguel begins CPR and calls the nurse. Crash cart arrives and the doctor uses the defibrillator several times with no response from Adela. Finally, Miguel gets in there and pounds her chest and her heartbeat returns. The doctor says, “A precordial thump. I haven’t seen that one done in a very long time.”  Miguel smiles.

Edna argues with her boss about investigating Miguel’s business to find out who was the culprit who bombed the place. She wants to confiscate the computers. Her boss says that she is not to investigate the victim, she is to found out who is to blame for this.

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Tuesday, November 26, 2019

El Dragon #39, 11/25/19: Discussion Page

With profound apologies, my cable company's website had major buffering issues with this program last night and the episode isn't posted for On Demand yet.  In fact, their site is two episodes behind on this program today.

All I saw was that:

  • Flaco was badly injured in the left thigh; Peligros has to carry him out
  • Adela was trapped under a beam; Miguel got her out and had to carry her out and went into the ambulance with her (I'm imagining that Jimena was royally pissed)
  • Pig was gloating
  • Lots of smoke in the air  and how toxic is it?

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Monday, November 25, 2019

Cuna de lobos, Capitulo 24 Lunes 11/25/19: Unbelievable



Many of the cleverest and some of the most hardened criminals are sometimes confounded by the presence of true evil. It is therefore shocking when one encounters true evil face to face and fails to see it for what it is. Being oblivious to it is worse than being shocked by it because that is when one is truly dead. – D.D.
Catalina spoke with Vega as he was getting into the all-terrain vehicle.
I will see you tomorrow and I will have another little job for you.”
I'm glad to hear you're more calm,” he said. “I'll have things to tell you.” He ended the call and told the driver to take him to the airport.
She wasted no time for the next step.
At your service, Señora Creel,” said the voice on her phone.
Proceed immediately with the preparations, Doctor,” she told him.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 96-98
Please Note: Evening Univisión TNs will be preempted on Thursday, Nov. 28th due to Fútbol. On Wednesday and Friday, El Dragón will air for 2 hours (from 9-11PM).

Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 25, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 25, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 57-59
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 30-32

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Saturday, November 23, 2019

Weekend Discussion 11/23/19: Karmageddon for the Reptiles of Cuna de Lobos



I have concluded that the better title for this tale would have been Abismo de Serpientes. It would seem to me that anyone entering the territory of Catalina Creel is as much in danger as if he were entering Ilha da Queimada Grande. Wolves are monogamous, social, and warm-blooded. They love their young. They are the ancestors of and reproductively compatible with our beloved dogs. Snakes are cold-blooded and do not care for their young. They are also more prone to cannibalism.

We are so close to the end due to the endless twists and turns of this story and its unpredictability. Therefore, we have many points to consider. As usual, we ponder the fates of this Royal Family of Evil:
  • What do you think will happen to them?
  • If different, what would you prefer to have happen to them?
For those unaware, Mexico does not have capital punishment. Do your best to second-guess or outdo what is to come. – D.D.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 23 Fri. 11/22/19: Catalina's Dilemma - Is it Claustrophobia or Are the Walls Really Closing in?

This is my last recap for "Cuna de lobos" and I would like to thank Urban and AnonFri for joining me on this recapping venture and making the coverage of this novela possible. It has been a pleasure working with you both.

On to the recap:

In Sierra Leone, Vega meets with Julius and informs him at gunpoint that Julius is now working ONLY for him.  He will not allow Gothier to get all of the benefits. Julius quickly agrees with a chortling Vega.   Suddenly, they are both cackling together but Julius realizes the danger of the situation.

An imbibing Catalina asks Francisco what he is doing coming to see her. He expresses his sympathies about Gélica.  He agrees that the "process" of finding  the killer will continue because the guilty person is still free.   Catalina agrees but without witnesses or evidence it will be difficult to trap her.  Francisco wonders about that since that person's good luck seems to be coming to an end. Catalina thinks that could end up being dangerous for others. He informs her that he gave José Carlos  all of the financial and operational records of Gothier. She does know what he is talking about, right?  Catalina asks him if he wants to commit suicide, too. He answers no but does want her to know that he is capable of turning her in. She asks if he hates her that much.  He wants to make a deal. He is going to turn himself into the authorities and will take the fall for all of the illegal business dealings they made together.  She wants to know in exchange for what. He makes it perfectly clear. If she does not go, he will turn her in.
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El Dragon #38, 11/22/19 - Whack a Mole Explosion!


Another Friday is upon us and this time with the end of, what the rest of the world will see on Netflix as the season Finale for Season 1. So I am guessing that it should be a good one. But for us, it is just another Friday night cliffhanger, thank you Univision. So let’s jump in.

First, we open with Hector. He is being tortured by Epig! Interestingly enough, Epig has done exactly what Miguel told him not to do. He is not leaving Hector alone. In the opening scene, he is holding a gun to his head telling him he needs to say his prayers because he is going to the bone yard. Epig takes a shot, but is messing with Hector. Because he doesn’t actually shoot him. He is a complete jerk, pretending to not understand why the shot didn’t kill Hector and telling him he is usually good for the third shot. Just trying to play mind games. Hector begs him to kill him. Epig tells Hector that if he opens his eyes he will put a bullet between his eyes. But Hector obviously doesn’t have that much of a death wish because he doesn’t open his eyes.
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Friday, November 22, 2019

El Dragón #37, 11/21/19: Pig Makes His Bed, Victor Sticks In His Nose, Flaco Flakes, and Mig Machos Out


Epigmanio has been locked inside the restaurant's storeroom, acting more like a caged boar, squealing and roaring away, ready to gore the first big thing in sight.  When Miguel appears and tells Pighe's only alive right now because he wants Pig alive.  Pig screams insults at "the effiminate Japanese wanna-be" to fight him man to man.   Mig opens the cage and walks off further into the narrow hallway.  "--You want me, you got me."

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Thursday, November 21, 2019

Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 22 Thurs. 11/21/19: Gelica in Jail, Not Happy with Accommodations

This is AnonFri's LAST recap for Cuna. Let's give AnonFri a well deserved round of virtual applause for these great recaps. [Anita, who has been the gremlin posting them on the front page.]

Leonora is crying inconsolably in her jail cell. A guard calls out her name and tells her she’s free. Leonora walks one last time through the cell area and finds Luis and Jose Carlos at the end of the gates. She’s holding her clothes and trying to stifle her cry but upon hugging them, thanking them, and asking for forgiveness, she cries. She holds them together that way for a bit.

Leonora is soon outside at the Larios mansión and finds Catalina in the garden. She demands to know where her son is, but Catalina says “My grandson is with his father, as it should be. You can’t get near him.” She adds that Alejandro has full custody because she’s not capable of taking care of Edgar. Leonora claims that no judge will keep her away from her son, and when Catalina tries to hold her back from entering the home, Leonora tells her off. Alejandro walks out with Edgar in his arms and hands him over to Leonora. Catalina asks him what he’s doing, and he responds that he should have done this long ago. He offers Leonora a ride but she replies that Luis is waiting for her and she resentfully says she never wants to see him again. When she’s gone, Catalina tells Alejandro that Edgar is her grandson, this is his home and I’ll make sure that he comes back. He retorts “You’ll never change will you? You’ll never understand.”
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 94-95
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of November 18, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 55-56
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 28-29

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragón #36, 11/20/19: Mexican Samurai



Japan: Miguel, Peligros, and Ishiro were with Jun, who explained that the dispute between himself and Goro goes way back. A gang of ninjas stalked Tadamichi and placed a motion sensor in the woods while Jun denied killing his own right-hand man, blaming Goro for this as the pretext for a war. Miguel saw the tattoo on Jun's hand and realized he was lying, flashing back to a shooting inciident. Miguel put Jun in a deadly headlock saying he will kill him himself if he kills Tadamichi.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 21 Wed. 11/20/19: A Twisty Kinky Tale with a Strong Dose of Disillusionment

We pick up the story with Leonora in her cell being counseled by her "Catalina bought" public defender Figueroa.  He explains how they can get her a more favorable sentence and her baby back in her custody even maybe at a minimum security prison with her confession to Miguel's murder. She wisely asks if Catalina and Alejandro can do something to thwart their efforts and the lawyer knowingly says that they cannot do anything "legally".  He explains the court will act  to protect the infant and that they will grant custody to whomever can assure its well-being the best. Leonora looks hopeful. He asks if they can accept the deal offered by the judge.  Leonora barely nods.

At Luis's place,  Alvaro sits quietly while José Carlos and Luis talk about what to do next to help Leonora. They discuss that  Alvaro's testimony would have the same weight as the security guard's so they need something else.  Luis is ready to tell them that Leonora was with him when Miguel died and that Alvaro had a meeting with Catalina at the building at that time.
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Wednesday, November 20, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 20 Martes 11/19/19: J'accuse!



I often wonder whether true crime programs on television – including my own – make criminals smarter. Whether they do or not, they're good for ratings. This one will make a great novel someday. In the meantime it will serve as a social statement about how injustice can sometimes be bought. – D.D.
Leonora got her first experience of violence in the prison at roll call, when she failed to answer. The guard nastily told her that she was to respond when she called her name, then hit her in the stomach.
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El Dragón #35, 11/19/19: Ruh Roh Scooby Do there's a war going on, but we don't know whose side we are on.



We left with some Japanese guy caught doing something alone in a bathtub and subsequently being punished for it. I thought it was kinda severe, but the Japanese are different about those things. Huh? Oh he was one of the underworld kingpins' helpers from an opposing view. Tadamichi  tells Mr. Migster this means war. Swell fellas, keep it over there this time.

Tadamichi and Migs and Tad tells him to stay close to Goro, he doesn't trust him
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Tuesday, November 19, 2019

El Dragón #34, 11/15/19: From Pig Pen To Makin' Bacon Or All Muddy Tracks Lead to Pig


Parte 1~

We begin again with the most memorable scene this past week: Chano, QEPD, blabbing to Hector that Epimanio Moncado is the head of the new drug cartel in CD Juarez and Hector being covered in brain pulp just afterward, courtesy of Tacho and his high-powered rifle shot from numerous blocks away.

Adela, meanwhile, manages to escape the clutches of Mr. Barrio back alley thug (more of a pipsqueak who seems too winded to do much more than threaten - and why oh why does the barrio bum always determine it's something of a macho rite of passage to rape a gal from outside the neighborhood?) With a well aimed knee-knock at his chestnuts and  ahop onto a conveniently parked moto of a pizza delivery girl... put, put, put--Vroooooom! She is outta there and back on her way to where-ever.

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Monday, November 18, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 19 Lunes 11/18/19: Blood, Sweat, and Tears


Lies, bribes, and sex as payment or manipulation are the stuff of psychopaths. It's a good thing I never went into law enforcement because I don't like thinking about how many people paid for crimes they didn't commit just because the killer had money. Or were induced into committing ones by other people with too much money. Maybe I'll pick up a copy of Double Indemnity and send it anonymously to Commandante Vega to shake up his world. – D.D.

Catalina – in her usual manner when stressed, angry, or triumphant – strew the papers on the table and threw over its top.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 91-93
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 18, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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