Monday, January 27, 2020

DAYTIME TNs (#1): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 27, 2020

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 70-72

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Amor Eterno 1-2 Index

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Rubi Index

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RINGO Index

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Thursday, January 23, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Ringo, Amor Eterno, Rubí- Week of Jan. 20, 2020

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series! We have a “Gran Estreno” for Rubí on Tuesday, Jan. 21st, but no known recappers as of yet. Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”; and, AnonFri is recapping “Amor Eterno” with assistance from Clara. If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV, AE, or Rubí, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 41-42
8PM – Amor Eterno: Season 2, Episode 128-129
9PM – Rubí (Semana de GRAN ESTRENO): Ep. 3-4

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Doña 2, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 20, 2020

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

•   9-10PM—La Doña 2
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

Season 2 of La Doña began last week. It's still possible to jump in. All episodes from last week are on the Telemundo website, along with a brief synopsis.  Many of the actors in season 1 have returned for season 2, along with a number of new ones, among them Carlos Ponce, David Zepeda, and Marisela González.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 20, 2020

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 68-69

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Tuesday, January 21, 2020

El Dragón #82, 1/20/20: Finale - Sayonara


This has been a tale of moral relativism unlike no other we have seen before from this network. It serves to remind us that all that is called morality is relative to its people of origin. We may agree with it or not, but it is there to be dealt with. May no one else who reads this be in as much conflict over it as Miguel Garza.

Mexico: Miguel met the Pig in the prison's visiting area. The Pig tried provoking him about varioous things including Ishiro but Miguel remained cool, saying he was there to enquire about the deaths of his parents. He brought up the recording Adela found. The Pig said that the recording had caused Lamberto's death becase it was proof of Roberto's betrayal. There was a flashback to the meeting in the house in Ciudad Juarez where he had his heart attack.
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Monday, January 20, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Ringo, Amor Eterno, Rubí- Week of Jan. 20, 2020

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series! We have a “Gran Estreno”  for Rubí on Tuesday, Jan. 21st, but no known recappers as of yet. Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”; and, AnonFri is recapping “Amor Eterno” with assistance from Clara. If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV, AE, or Rubí, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 38-40
8PM – Amor Eterno: Season 2, Episode 125-127
9PM – Rubí (Semana de GRAN ESTRENO): Ep. 1-2

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): La Doña 2, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 20, 2020

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—La Doña 2
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

Season 2 of La Doña began this past Monday. It's still possible to jump in. All episodes from last week are on the Telemundo website, along with a brief synopsis.  Many of the actors in season 1 have returned for season 2, along with a number of new ones, among them Carlos Ponce, David Zepeda, and Marisela González.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 20, 2020

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 65-67

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Saturday, January 18, 2020

El Dragon #81, 1/17/20: Crossroads to Redemption--The Pig Gets Put In the Poky



  • This capítulo's highlight is that Miguel manages with Hector's help to frame Epigmenio for the mass of mafia murders as well as covering up Natie's murder, trafficking in illicit drugs, the dance club massacre that killed Helena, Hector's sister, and the "home invasion" at los Garza, DF.  (amongst other things)
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Friday, January 17, 2020

El Dragon #80, 1/16/20: The Art of War


What other title could I have chosen?

Good Day my friendly Patio Patrons. I am here a day early this week. Taking care of each other when one of us is unable to make this thing happen. Life can throw us all off at times. But better than what the poor mafiosos are suffering at the hands at Miguel.

Last night, in one fell swoop, we saw Miguel take down all of those who has voted against him in the secret meeting. Piero, the way Miguel got his money back was clever, the death, thank you that we didn’t have to see too much. Kuang, that was just funny. Tadamichi set him us so well, there was no way that guy was going home without that fake artifact. Drenka…well, that was just kind of rough. Ouch! The Russians did each other in, as they had tried so many times before, (remember the hotel and Karina running from one chasing the other?)
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Thursday, January 16, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Ringo & Amor Eterno- Week of Jan. 13, 2020

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”; and, AnonFri is recapping “Amor Eterno” with assistance from Clara. If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV or AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 36-37
8PM – Amor Eterno: Season 2, Episode 123-124

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Doña 2, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of January 13, 2020

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   La Doña 2
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 13, 2020

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 63-64

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)
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El Dragon #79, 1/15/20: Venganza is mine, sayeth Miguel Garza


On Demand scuttled me again--and thus you.
Thanks to Ithabill for the title! Here are some highlights from Niece in MD posted with much appreciation!
 bare bones bullets from what I remember of last night:

- There's a time jump (one month, I think). Miguel is healthy and living with Adela in a small room.

- Miguel is directing Peligros, Flaco, Ishiro, and Trejo in carrying out elaborate revenge plans (including stealing money) from each one who betrayed him. (Of all the plans, I hate the one against the Serbian chick. They have her own dogs attack her (although in dialogue by Peligro they do let Viewerville know that the dogs will not be harmed). Just horrible. This is something a villain would do).

- IMHO, the classy revenge plans are the ones against the Italian guy, involving the actress we saw earlier and Flaco as casino dealer and Trejo in grayed hair. Wish I knew the details, but it was cool to watch.

- Hector and his wife are happy with their lovemaking. Evidently, the problem had been more in his head than elsewhere.

- Edna kicks out her husband. He wheels his little suitcase out of their home.

And the filler from Cynthia:

Tacho was the dead one. ePig didn't seem to be too bothered by it in his conversation with Piero. He pretty much said it was the nature of the beast in this business, that you sometimes don't live to a ripe old age.

I am going to assume that this underground bunker that Miguel and company are operating out of is at the Garza mansion?

I liked the auction with Trejo as the auctioneer and having Tadamichi as part of it. I assume now that Tadamichi and Miguel have made up as he seems to be on Miguel's side now.

My favorite part was when Kwong opened up his ancient document (now anyone with any knowledge of ancient documents KNOWS darn well you can't handle them with your hands as all ancient documents need special care!) and then Miguel came on the TV set to watch him get his due. It was an interesting way to die, glad it didn't involve blood.

It was funny seeing Vanesa the actress from Miami in on this as "Dolores Figueroa, heir to the Figueroa Construction Empire." But she didn't seem to know that Karina was one who betrayed Miguel, so that's why she was eliminated. Of course Vanesa seems to think that Karina killed herself.

Adela is still in contact with Carmen? Why? Glad she told her that she was in Italy and later to Greece.

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Wednesday, January 15, 2020

El Dragón #78, 1/14/20: The Aftermath




We begin a repeat scene of Chisca and Miguel getting shot. Chisca’s last words to Ishiro were about how many children she wants. He relives all their good moments, but Chisca dies in his arms. Ishiro is overcome with grief.

Peligros comes downstairs, sees Chisca then Miguel. He is followed by Adela who is also overcome by seeing Chisca dead. She turns around and sees Miguel lying on the floor, motionless. Jorge is on the phone getting an ambulance. He sees his dead sister and cries. Adela cradles Miguel in her arms trying to get him to wake up. Jorge starts mumbling and it comes out that he was the one who put ePig up to this horrific tragedy. Jorge says something like, “He promised he was only going to get Miguel and no one else!” Ishiro hears this and tries to harm Jorge, but Peligros makes him let go.

Miguel is wheeled into surgery and Adela right beside him before she has to let go so the doctor can take him into the operating room.

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Tuesday, January 14, 2020

El Dragón #77, 1/13/20: The Face of Cowardly Betrayal



Jorge came face to face with Tacho, who dragged him inside before the Sow. Both treated him like he was a pipsqueak, especially when he demanded to see the Pig. When Tacho called the Pig to tell him Jorge insisted on seeing him, he was told to bring him to his other sty using their usual security measures. He was to leave the Sow behind.
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Monday, January 13, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Ringo & Amor Eterno- Week of Jan. 13, 2020

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, and AnonFri is providing recaps for Amor Eterno with assistance from Clara. If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV or AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 33-35
8PM – Amor Eterno: Season 2, Episode 120-122

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): La Doña 2, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 13, 2020

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   La Doña 2
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7

Monday, January 13 begins the second season of La Doña.  As Juanita posted last week, the plot will resume two years after the finale of Season 1.  And some new characters will be introduced and portrayed by David Zepeda, Carlos Ponce, and Marisela González.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 13, 2020

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 60-62

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)
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Saturday, January 11, 2020

El Dragon #76, 1/10/20: Everyone is Shook!

Good Evening my Patio Peeps, glad to be here tonight with you all. Or this morning, since this episode it taking an eternity to get through. Lots to see here, so read on.

Ending last night Kenia, finally met her end. It was long in coming, and at one point I thought she might even get away with it. That some way, Jorge would save her in front of Miguel. But alas that was not to be. Gary finds his star witness dead on the floor. At least it wasn’t a bloody death. We really didn’t need another one of those.

Tonight starts with Gary leaving the scene in shock. Was Edna right, he fell in love with her? Because he looks shook. Finally, he calls in the downed officer and the death.
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Friday, January 10, 2020

El Dragón #75, 1/9/20: The Kill Order & Sealed Fates; Death Awaits


  • Apparently, Kenia raced back into her security building forcing Ishiro to pick the lock while she races back through her apartment; Ishi knows the apartment number and kicks in the door, going room by room and noting finally the open window and fire escape leading up to the rooftop.  Kenia leads him on a merry chase from there, finally losing him hiding behind a piece of trashed plywood in a construction site filled with mean looking construction workers, picks and shovels in hand and ready to defend her against a male interloper.  Ishi backs off, uncertain where she's gotten to.
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Thursday, January 09, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Ringo & Amor Eterno 2- Week of Jan. 6, 2020


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV or AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 31-32
8PM – Amor Eterno: Season 2, Episode 118-119 (GRAN ESTRENO!!)

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Doña 1, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 6, 2020

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

•   9-10PM—La Doña 1 (abridged)**
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

**Telemundo will be concluding the abridged version of its popular telenovela La Doña at the end of this week. Season 2 of La Doña will begin next Monday, January 13, at 9 pm. From the little that I've read and am able to report without spoilers, the plot will begin two years after the events of season 1. Saúl and Mónica (La Doña's daughter) are married. He is working as a lawyer for the Fundación Renacer and she is a law student. Together with Mónica's aunt Regina, they are working to end violence against women.  Their efforts are opposed by los Arcoiris, a gang that is known to torture and murder women. For several reasons, Altagracia Sandoval (aka La Doña), who has been living outside Mexico, decides to return. Needless to say, THE PLOT THICKENS. I should add that many of the actors in season 1 have returned for season 2, along with a number of new ones, among them David Zepeda, Carlos Ponce, and Marisela González.
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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 6, 2020


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 58-59

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)
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El Dragon #74, 1/8/20:A Sinking Ship and Betrayal on All Fronts

My job schedule left me with no time but to list a very few highlights.  Anyone wanting to add today feel free and I can add to main part. - ed.

  • Flaco suspects Kenia and secretly goes into his safe computer and sees Kenia took the photo of his favorite car and plates and used it to hack the computer.  He follows her out the next chance he gets; she says she's going to the bank.  He follows her there, chats amiably and then once she leaves he plays like he wants a box of his own but it's way to small.  He notes Gary the Government Agent walk in and go to open an empty P.O.Box and find nothing.  Yup.  It's Kenia who's been spying on everyone, keeping the government goons hot on their heels.  He reports his find to Miguel.
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Wednesday, January 08, 2020

El Dragón #73, 1/7/20: Miguel Carrying the Weight of the World on his Shoulders


Kenia continues to try to log into that laptop computer. Each time it says, “Access Denied.” She’s frustrated. She takes her own laptop and heads outside the office doors.

Meanwhile, the news keeps reporting about Efilina deaths and on the death of the Governor of Baja California.  As Miguel and Adela watch the news together. Adela asks, “Do we know for sure it is the Efilina?” Miguel just shakes his head as he watches in disbelief. He gets on the phone and calls Flaco. He asks Flaco to get all the details on all the people who have died taking the Efilina. As Miguel continues to wince and be affected by all that is going on, Adela asks him if he is okay. He shakes his head and tells her he really needs to be alone. It’s not personal nor does it have anything to do with her. He walks out.

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Tuesday, January 07, 2020

El Dragón #72, 1/6/20: The Shit Hits the Fan



Governor Montero collapsed on the floor during the television interview. Emergency medical personnel arrived to help. The Garzas were watching this on television. Peligros speculated that this was planned. Miguel arrived home at that moment, aware of what had just happened.
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Monday, January 06, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Ringo & Amor Eterno 2- Week of Jan. 6, 2020


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV or AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 28-30
8PM – Amor Eterno: S2, Ep. 115-117 (NUEVA TEMPORADA!!)

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)




Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): La Doña 1, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 6, 2020

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—La Doña 1 (abridged)**
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

**Telemundo will be concluding the abridged version of its popular telenovela La Doña at the end of this week. Season 2 of La Doña will begin next Monday, January 13, at 9 pm. From the little that I've read and am able to report without spoilers, the plot will begin two years after the events of season 1. Saúl and Mónica (La Doña's daughter) are married. He is working as a lawyer for the Fundación Renacer and she is a law student. Together with Mónica's aunt Regina, they are working to end violence against women.  Their efforts are opposed by los Arcoiris, a gang that is known to torture and murder women. For several reasons, Altagracia Sandoval (aka La Doña), who has been living outside Mexico, decides to return. Needless to say, THE PLOT THICKENS. I should add that many of the actors in season 1 have returned for season 2, along with a number of new ones, among them David Zepeda, Carlos Ponce, and Marisela González.
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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Jan. 6, 2020


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 55-57

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Sunday, January 05, 2020

El Dragon #71, 1/3/20: Moving Forward...Maybe


Adela enters Carmen’s house and Carmen immediately locks the door. Adela is obviously a little worried when she asks her why she locked the door. Carmen gives her an excuse type answer. And the audience goes “uh oh.” Then, to add insult to injury, Carmen offers Adela coffee that she herself does not want to drink which Adela also looks at suspiciously, and again…the audience goes “uh oh.” The women talk and the camera pans to Tacho peering around the corner…and the audience goes “uh oh” wondering what fate is in store for our poor Adela.

In between what happened in the scene between Carmen and Adela, back at Naga company headquarters, the group is trying to regroup and figure out how to proceed. Jimena calls in sick since she is being held hostage by the sadistic man that is Hans.
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Saturday, January 04, 2020

El Dragon #70, 1/3/20: It's All Hitting the Fan!!



Good evening my friends and hope that you are not already exhausted with the number of shows from the week. It’s been a long one. And hopefully didn’t do what I did, catch up on the whole week today. Hey…I was busy. But it is getting good. We are in the tail end here and everything has to hit the fan before the end. So here we go.

We left off last night with exactly what Peligros was trying to avoid. Adela’s photo in the hands of Epigmenio. Carmen is in shock when she hears that she is Miguel’s girlfriend. And just as Peligros warned, she is the wife of a mafioso and Carmens response to Epig was that he needed to kill her because no one makes a fool of his wife. Epig needs to know everything that Mrs. Piggy told Adela.
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Friday, January 03, 2020

El Dragón #68-69, 1/2/20: Los Sayonaras or Your Days Are Numbered

This must be quick as my work schedule now has me getting home in the middle of the first epi of the duo.--Edit.
Cap. #68
  • Adela listens again to the 20+ year old recording.  "My father would never agree to transport.  I would have to kill him.  I've ordered sent a bomb."  Too disagreeable to burst everybody's bubble over that hot potato.  She lies to Peligros that she's not found a single clue.  He believes her, natch.
  • Jimena and Miguel discuss a magazine interview with a popular, intelligent and very dangerous reporter.  Mig accepts that challenge.  True to character, Viewerville observes he wants to get to the meat of Mig's secret life.  This guy--not yet 40-- could be the next leader of Mexico!
  • Chis has a tatoo done on her neck of Ishido's name in Japonese.
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Thursday, January 02, 2020

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Ringo - Week of Dec. 30, 2019 – Jan. 3, 2020


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 26-27

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”.)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
֎֎֎ HAPPY NEW YEAR!! ֎֎֎
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Doña 1, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of December 30, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
  • 9-10PM -   La Doña 1 (Abridged)
  • 10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Dec. 30, 2019 –Jan. 3, 2020


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 53-54

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)

֎֎֎ HAPPY NEW YEAR!! ֎֎֎
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El Dragón #66-67, 1/1/20: Potted Stew


Numero 66: Propositions and Proposals 
  • On Garza Island Miguel and Adela discuss the sense of buying an entire island for themselves.  (Why, cuz if ya got it ya gotta spend it!  Ya can't take it with ya!)  He says they need a private escape for themselves.  Talk turns to his slowing down some day in the near future once Efilina takes over the culture and people stop dying from using illegal substances to escape the bad situations they face daily.  Then he (on his unicorn) and others (on their flying pigs) can retire from having to kill people over the same illicit trade.  (Viewerville reminds those of us who view things through reality glasses rather than the rose colored ones, that there will always be people who enjoy doing bad things and pursue making this trade illegal because they're born bad, namely the Epigmenios of the world.)  Ade marvels at the way Mig always has things so well thought out.  Well, says she, as long as the two of them end up happy together...... 
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Tuesday, December 31, 2019

El Dragón #64-65, 12/30/19: Confrontations and Distractions



Mexico: Tacho confronted the Pig, forcing him to his knees for what he had done to him and his family in the past.

Dora and Miguel had a disagreement about his recent business moves. She didn't like him making himself the man of the hour over the petro cleanup, saying this wasn't part of “the agenda.” Adela came in to say she was going out. Dora tried with her unsolicited advice and Adela put her off with the “I'lll take that under advisement” comment. She showe them the morning paper the story about the prison escape, which distracted them from further argument.
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Monday, December 30, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Ringo - Week of Dec. 30, 2019 – Jan. 3, 2020


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:

7PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 24-25 (Preempted on Tuesday due to New Year’s programming.)

Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
֎֎֎ HAPPY NEW YEAR!! ֎֎֎
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): La Doña 1, El Señor de los cielos 7, y más: Week of December 30, 2019

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    9-10PM -   La Doña 1 (Abridged)***
    10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7***

***All the evening telenovelas on December 31 will be pre-empted by movies.

As Juanita posted last week, Telemundo will be running a shortened version of La Doña 1 this week as well.  For those who didn't see Season 1, it's an opportunity to catch up with this modern-day version of the classic Venezuelan novel:  Doña Bárbara.  Season 2 will begin on Monday, January 13, 2020.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Dec. 30, 2019 –Jan. 3, 2020


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

2 PM  - La Fuerza de Cree 2 (Último Capíitulo! Will be replaced by “Como Dice el Dicho  starting Jan 2nd)
3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 52 (Preempted on Tuesday due to New Year’s Programming and Wednesday due to a 3-hour airing of AMOR ETERNO)

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)

֎֎֎ HAPPY NEW YEAR!! ֎֎֎
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Saturday, December 28, 2019

Coming Soon to a Screen Near You...in 2020

Greetings, Caraymates!

As the 2019 telenovela year comes to an end, we can’t but reflect on all the wonderful (and some not-so-wonderful) productions that Telelvisa, Univision, Telemundo and other production companies have brought us. Among them we were introduced to transmigration of souls in Amar a Muerte (which swept away all the awards in the TVyNovelas Award Show except for one); we saw a young girl robbed of her family and her fame in La Reina Soy Yo; we had just about every PSA under the sun thrown at us in Mi Marido Tiene (Mas) Familia; and we were given more of a glimpse into the narco/crime world than we (at least I for sure) would hope for in TNs such as  La Piloto 2, La Reina del Sur and Por Amar Sin Ley 2. We even were witnesses to the birth of the Dream Factory/Fábrica de Sueños which brought us some well-renowned telenovelas which were adapted and transformed into 25-episode series. All in all, it was a good year! So what’s in store for 2020, you may ask? Well, grab a seat in the patio and let me tell you what I know (or have found). Before I start, I do want to put in some disclaimers—

The information you are about to read was gathered from a variety of sources including, “Univision,” “People en Español,”, “La Opinion,” “Wikipedia,” “Forbes,” and “Las Estrellas.” The articles/webpages read are dated from as far back as May, 2019; so changes may have been made by the powers that be in the production companies (and I am not privy to the changes). I have no information about release dates (except for maybe one of the productions) and you will note that there isn’t much info on some of the TNs, but this page will be updated periodically throughout the 2020 year. If you have current or more accurate information to share, please do so; it will be greatly appreciated and used to update the page.
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El Dragon #63, 12/27/19: The Great Escape


This episode starts out by showing us what Tacho was doing with all of the money that Dora had given him. It turns out that he has bought at least half the prison, according to Chuey, who is none to happy to not be on the payroll. It looks like the entire thing happens on the day of their plan, but is told through flashbacks showing how the entire thing was planned and executed.

Tacho is living a pretty comfortable life handing out money for his creature comforts. Where he is storing the majority of the money, I have no idea. Then one day he meets a guy. His name is Inge and he was being picked on in the common area and Tacho came to the rescue. Inge is in prison for robbery, but he used to work on the plumbing and sewers of the city. Tacho is interested in this and confirms he was familiar with this particular zone, where the prison is located. When Inge gives the affirmative, Tacho tells him that he is his new best friend. Mom sneaks in what looks like maybe more money… never was really sure what she hid in the soap, and a map of the plumbing of the entire area in what is supposed to be a leg of something.
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El Dragon #62, 12/27/19: Don't Cry Over Spilt...Oil?


This episode focused mostly on the oil spill, there wasn’t much else to it, so it should make this recap easier than usual, which is great since I have two episodes to cover.

The engineer and the secretary Sayanes, who wants to run for president are arguing over who caused the oil spill, after the secretary strong armed the engineer into increasing the production, not caring about the costs.
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Friday, December 27, 2019

El Dragón #61, 12/26/19: If Chestnuts Grew In Miami


  • Miguel arrives at the office and wants Adela to leave earlier than usual.  Fearing the worst if Peligros tattletales on her, she must confess her plot to learn from Carmen, aka Mrs. Piggy, what role Epigmenio really had in Mig's parents' deaths.  He agrees with Peligros that it's foolish and dangerous as well as unnecessary.  They need to discuss it further at home.
  • Leopoldo Santamarina, is telling what he knows about Mig's enterprises--at least the umbrella structure stemming from Ecogreen and the latest acquisition of "Pídenos".  He'll get protection, sure, if the information is worth anything, advises Howard.  He mentions a number of businesses Howard has put on his wall map.  Leo tells him he's the legitimate face of Ecogreen and he's being forced to sign something he doesn't want to.  Howard is slobbering all over himself.  Come on in says Mr. Spider to the Leo the Fly.  
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): La Doña1, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of December 23, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

•   9-10PM—La Doña1**
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

**Telemundo is running an abridged version of season 1 of <i>La Doña</i> this week and next (and perhaps the week after that). The intention is to prepare viewers for season 2, which will begin on January 13.  It gives people who haven't seen season 1 a good understanding of what took place, and it also helps refresh the memory of those who saw season 1, which aired in 2016.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Thursday, December 26, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Ringo - Week of Dec. 23, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series where Diana and RGVChick are providing recaps for “Ringo”, but if you are feeling generous and want to fine-tune those recapping skills, this is a perfect time! If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for RLPDSV, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-9PM  - Ringo: La Pelea de Su Vida: Ep. 20-23
Friendly reminder:  PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Ringo”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
֎֎֎ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! ֎֎֎

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Hijas de la Luna…y Mas - Week of Dec. 23, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Want a good laugh? Join us at our patio where JudyB and Doris are providing some very snarktastic recaps for “Hijas.” Everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

2 PM  - La Fuerza de Cree 2 (Note: La Fuerza de Creer 2 only has 5 episodes!)
3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 50-51 

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Hijas”)

֎֎֎ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! ֎֎֎
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El Dragón #60, 12/25/19: Oh, Happy Day!


  • Adela is muy impactada to realize that Lobo is there chatting it up with Mrs. Piggy, aka Carmen Moncado.  She is even more drop jaw impactado to see the two enter into a lusting lip lock.  She scampers out the door and down to the car where Peligros is waiting with his gun in hand and his heart in his throat.  They race home where the argument over "playing spies" continues.  Peligros says this has got to end!  Ade says no way since  Carmen's about to confide in her.  Peligros doubts it considering the way she hightailed it outta there without so much as a thankee ma'am.  Ade insists she'll think of something to explain it but she's not done.  Peligros threatens to tell all to Miguel if she does.  They separate once Rosario shows up wanting the low down on the beat down.  
  • Meanwhile, Miggy informs Ishiro that he's to stay in Mexico.  This should delight him but Mig notes he's less than excited.  (How Mig can tell considering Ishi has one expression: sourgrump.)  He asks him if there's a problem but of course Ishi denies anything but loyalty to the death.
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Tuesday, December 24, 2019

El Dragón #59, 12/23/19: Follow the Money



Ishiro went into Chisca's room, but pulled back from getting into the horizontal mambo with her. Predictably, she was frustrated and irritated as he left her hotel room, telling her he would see her at home. A little later Chisca went into the elevator to leave. Ishiro was just far enough behind her not to be seen, but he took the stairs down.
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HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ONE AND ALL IN CARAY VIEWERVILLE!!



Hi there, CarayCaray Peeps!   iFelices Fiestas A Todos!

Thanks to all the readers and commenters (silent or otherwise) over the past year.  Without you we cease to be.  The comments and creations read here are unique and uniquely yours.  Enjoy your time with family and friends and here's wishing you the best during the new year as well.

Sincerely,

Jardinera654

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