Tuesday, July 07, 2015

Que Te Perdone Dios Capitulo 119- Discussion

[Countx -Not to worry.  I'm posting below what ViviDC and Anon. 207 put in their highlights.  Thanks to all of you. --Jardinera654]

Sorry but today apparently there wont be any recap because the episode is not up yet on my sources ( Although it should be because it always comes up on mornings grrr, I want to dismantle someone's brakes or whip someone up brutally just like Fausto!) . Univision has it but I am geolocked so I don't have access to it. If anyone is able to remember what happened please post it in the comment section below. If the episode gets posted or I get some good VPN then I might be able to do the recap.

I did watch a scene in which Diana gets her eyeballs cut off ( By Fausto The Vicious Heartbreaker) though. She later kills herself by jumping across a cliff but not before handing the baby to Boring Benito ( She must have kidnapped the child or something). Also I have to say that I have been disgusted by that one scene alone, Fausto is a true stinking MONSTER.  Pedro Medina compared to Satan Lopez Guerra is a whiny, pompous  wimp ( I am sure though that Angeli Nesma Medina will surprise us with a  butcher that is 100x worse . Perhaps she will remake Mariana De La Noche but I wonder which actor is fit to be the next butcher)
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- Everyone frets about Renata at the hospital. Mat arrives and joins Pat in surgery. Abi gives Mat the amulet Mel once made for Ren and Pablo and later gave to Abi. He puts it in Ren's hand. Much later Pat and Mat emerge and tell everyone Ren survived but is in a coma. Both Abi and Connie break down.
- While at the hospital: Barragan admits to Abi that he's her grandpa. They hug and cry. Abi admits to Diego that Fausto is Mat's dad. Connie spills to Abi some of the truth of how Bruno stole Abi from Ren, enlisted Mac, and strong-armed Ren into accepting the godmother role. She does this because Fausto arrives (and somehow doesn't get punched or arrested for having recently tried to rape Abi), and starts to badmouth Ren. Otherwise, everyone keeps telling Abi to wait until Ren is awake and can tell her the whole story. Frustrating!
- The police take their sweet time going after Diana. By the time they do, she's enlisted Mac to help her steal her baby and hide them in Pablo's shack. Fausto later arrives, and Diana whines about having just met yet another of his lovers, Ximena. Fausto sets her straight. He never loved her or any other woman. The only woman he's ever loved is Renata, and his fascination with Abi is simply because she's Ren's daughter. Diana hurt the woman he loves and now she must pay. He starts to strangle her. The baby cries. She asks for mercy for her son's sake. He grants it. He doesn't kill her, but instead gouged out her eyes with his knife.
- Benito decides to grow a pair, and strong arms Mac into taking him to Diana, since everyone knows she helped her take the baby. They find Diana bloody, blinded, and blindfolded, carrying the baby and wandering around searching for help. Unfortunately, she's wandered to the edge of the cliff. Benito warns her, she hands him the baby, warns horrified Mac that this is the fate that awaits her with Fausto, and lets herself fallback and off the cliff.
- Meanwhile, Mat and Diego are also out searching and Mat tells him how he learned Fausto was his dad, when about to kill him after he tried to rape Abi. Now it's Diego who looks murderous.
- Barragan and the police arrive at the Montero house looking for Diana. Instead they find drunk Antonio who admits to killing Lucio.
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~By Anon.207~~
Tono getting drunk & crunk at the bar; bartender tells him to leave or he'll sic the Padre on him again

Fausto mad at Diana for shooting Renata; explains he really does love Renata; goes to the hospital to investigate

Fausto tells Mateo about Diana shooting Renata

Ximena drops by Fausto's house & tells Diana that Renata is still alive, she's just one of many of Fausto's side chicks and Diana's not about that jail life so she needs to pack her stuff and leave

Helena watches the baby; Macaria enters. Helena tells Macaria to get out, then turns her back to answer the phone. When she finishes her phone call, discovers Macaria took the baby.

Macaria gives Diana the baby.

Abi lines, Diego lines, Constanza lines, Barragan lines. Barragan reveals to Abi that he is Pablo's daddy, thus her granddaddy. She calls him Abuelo. Fausto shows up & finds out Abi knows the truth about her origins. Abi & Connie tell Fausto to go away. Abi calls Connie Abuela. Barragan gets a phone call about Macaria & the missing baby.

Benito confronts Macaria about the missing baby.

Fausto comes back & argues with Diana about shooting Renata some more. Diana tells Fausto that Renata can see & that's why she got shot because the real target was Abi and Renata jumped in front of the bullet to save Abi. Fausto not happy and whips out a knife. Fausto threatens the baby but Diana is suddenly maternal and begs to save the baby's life. Then Fausto says he has something in store for her.

Tono stumbles around drunk and confesses he did away with Lucio in front of Barragan.

Diana stumbles around a cliff, blindfolded & with the baby and no eyes. For some reason, Macaria & Benito are also hanging out at this cliff and see Diana stumbling towards the edge. Benito begs Diana to give him the baby and to come back from the edge. Diana refuses and stumbles some more around the edge of the cliff. Diana gives Benito the baby and tells Macaria Fausto has something in store for her too. Then Diana gives a dramatic monologue about how she loved the baby & Benito needs to tell the baby & Mateo she defended him with all her heart and then she takes a leap off the cliff.


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Monday, July 06, 2015

Amores con trampa #71 y #72 7/6/15 and 7/7/15


I love this show so stinkin' much.

I have to warn the patio--I didn't get my nap time today and I'm feeling lazy....so it's mainly going to be a quick out-of-order run through.

Estefy moves into the Carmonas. Rocio drops the “she was my Tio’s lover” bomb and Maria seems to already know all about it. In fact, she says she and Estefy have already talked about it. What say you Vivi? Did this happen? Despite Fac’s protests, Maria puts her foot down. Estefy stays.

Santi finds out the next day when he runs into Estefy outside the Carmonas. Isa finds out, too. Estefy swears Maria is her best friend and that she will defend her tooth and nail. Isa says “What teeth? Those are veneers.” AND DESCOCADA ENDED UP IN THIS CONVO TOO!!!

Back at the Velascos, Isa thinks Santi asked his “friend” Maria to invite Estefy to stay.

Honestly, Estefy doesn’t turn out to be a horrible houseguest and I’m still left wondering if there’s a redemption in her future. Now you are probably saying, “Sara. Are you half chiflada? Didn’t you see that scene where Estefy threw her half clad body at Fac?” I did, dear reader, I did. And I agree that was not cool. Perpetua was correct in telling Estefy to cover up and to later provide her with more appropriate sleepwear. I secretly hope we actually see Estefy in that sack.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS: EL SEÑOR DE LOS CIELOS 3, TIERRA DE REYES, AVENIDA BRASIL, etc – week of July 6, 2015

Hello from Prague. Thanks to Sneaky Two Shoes, Span Prof and everyone for keeping me up to date on what is happening on Tierra while I'm in Europe. Here is your post for this week. Enjoy!


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Sunday, July 05, 2015

Doin' Time For Crime 'N Other Criminal Pacts

Abigail tells Renata that there is nothing in the world she wouldn’t forgive.  Ren’s happy to hear that.  Let’s hope she doesn’t forget that in the future and that Abi doesn’t feel she has to eat her words later on.  Abi also mentions that she knows Macaria is not her real mother.  She says Mac made sure to tell her that she was just some orphan left on the streets.  Ren is angry to hear it and finally has the courage to tell her daughter not to believe one word more that comes out of that woman’s mouth.  She was NOT taken off the streets somewhere.  If she wants to know the whole truth then she’ll tell it all to her the next morning at the river where she and Pablo began their love affair and where, for Abigail, it all began.  She doesn’t want anyone else to hear them.

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Friday, July 03, 2015

La Sombra del Pasado #99, 7-3-15 Baby Bomb Bombs!


Hey, y’all!  I am so glad to be back with y’all on the patio.  Thank you, Diva, for covering for me last Friday and thank you to all my awesome teammates:  Diva, Eli, Hellashelle and Sweet Baby Chihuahuas for the past two weeks of recaps of some exciting episodes.  I so missed hanging out with y’all but I’m back now with not quite a blockbuster episode but anyhoo, here it is!

Padre Jeronimo, he of the iron halo, thanks Ren and Silvia for that brilliant sting and take-down of Sev’s evil plot to destroy PJ with an accusation of sexually abusing and impregnating a young, mute girl.  PJ doesn’t want to press charges:  it won’t do any good.  He wants to trap Sev in something much bigger, more important; something that will show the whole town who Sev really is!  PJ knows that this fight against Sev in the long run might cost him his life but he can’t let Sev get away with his arrogant and cynical treatment of the town as if it’s his own tool to use as he wishes.  Silvia and Ren pledge their unconditional support!

Adelina sits holding a picture of Raymundo and we are whisked with her to the terrible night of Raymundo’s murder.  Roberta is wearing red, but it’s not festive or sexy red, but the not yet dried blood of . . .who, her lover, Sev, or her husband, Raymundo, mortally wounded after she shot him in the back?  Roberta feigns surprise at Jock’s recent announcement that Ray had died in an automobile crash.  Adelina slapped Roberta hard and wished her and her damned lover a quick trip to hell.  In fact, she was going to the police!  Adelina confessed her love of Raymundo and cursed the day he married Roberta who stops her at the door and falls to her knees to beg Adelina not to tell.  Back in the present Adelina repeats “it was my fault, my fault.”  Dominga, ever ready with comfort startles Adelina who asks Dominga to pay her no mind.  Ay, what a tragedy was Raymundo’s life, so young with a new baby.  The worst part of it is, Adelina intones looking at the picture, is that it could have been prevented.

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Lo Imperdonable #35 Fri 7/3/15 Emi Arrives To Town; Claudia Gets Her Own Show; And The Old Goat Nearly Keels Over Again

Happy Fourth Of July Everyone! Hope You All Have A Great Day! 

On to the recap...
(scenes have been combined to help it flow better)

Tough Love (Or Twisting The Knife?) 

Jorge visits Emi in his room. He doesn't want Emi to feel like he's being treated as if he were an adolescent. Although we on The Patio know that he's been behaving like one. Jorge wants sonny boy to understand that they're worried about him. Emi like a true addict denies that he's an alcoholic. Yes, it's true that he's been drinking a lot lately. But that will pass. These days will mark the difference. Whatever that means. Jorge knows the real reason behind Emi's drinking. Emi thought it'd be easier getting over Vero but it hasn't been easy. Jorge doesn't want to hurt him more, but he has to show him Vero's fax. That way Emi will understand once and for all that he must leave her in the past.

The fax lets Emi know that Marty is doing better and Vero is happy. Emi crumples up the fax and Jorge tells Emi to not think that he doesn't understand his pain. It would drive Jorge crazy if he had to be away from Salma (foreshadowing perhaps?). But Emi's relationship with Veronica never started so it'll be easier to start over again with someone else. Emi doesn't think the same -- he'll never love anyone else. 

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Amores con trampa #70 3 July 2015... Where all the males over the age of 18 feel like arguing, drawing lines and punching each other. Neanderthals!

Gusana and Ale… talking about Andres… while grilling some meat. 
Mireya and Esteban argue about Isa. Este says Isa looks better instead of worse so the treatment isn’t working. Mireya claims it is.  Isa is ABOUT TO fall apart.  She will suffer a terrible crisis.  Esteban questions it… what he sees is Isa is more smart… even more beautiful.   He wants results! How is Mireya with Santee?  Este shows very impatient. He needs to see Isa and Santee split and Santee sunk in despair.  Isa calls Mireya.  Este tells Mireya to agree to a meeting. He is running out of patience. He needs Isa locked in a nut-house ASAP.
Back at the grill, Jacinto and a couple young redhead boys (the ones that bullied him early on at school are now going to be good to him, per what Jacinto says) join the girls.  Gusana not so quick to trust them. The boys walk away. The twin boys have a plan of their own.. I guess their turnaround is not so.
At office, Santee arrives at Facu’s office with a suitcase… make that two suitcases. He opens them for Facu. They are FULL OF MONEY!!  Santee says it is the worst humiliation he ever had to suffer at a bank. As if he had a farmers market stand… Facu mocks him a bit since he once DID have a farmers market stand. Santee says never mind, here’s your money bill by bill.  Facu reminds him it is money he loaned him the same way, bill by bill. Santee does not want to remember the past, but Facu does.  Facu would not trust Santee further than he could throw him.  Facu is hungry, he is about to order food while they count the money by hand.  Facu even will pay for Santee’s food… Santee reacts as if it were a tragedy. 
At Mireya’s office, Isa has arrived. Isa whines that at home things are ok… the pills have worked well. But she gets cross-eyed and asks Mireya for help.  Mireya serves Isa some wine to give her another pill. 
Back at The Carmonas, Carmen has joined the girls by the pool. The party is going well so far, they comment.  Francis arrives. And starts annoying Carmen.  Diego and Feli along with the shadow girls arrive.  The boys both have something for Carmen and they reach in front of Francis to give it to her at unison, causing a cup of drink to spill right on Francis face and outfit.  They all laugh it off except Francis, who is offended, as always.
Back to Mireya’s office… Isa gets real upset… Mireya asks if she has been taking the pills.  Isa says she can’t drink so much because her kids are watching and nagging her for it.  Mireya says the treatment only works after 3 weeks. Isa says its been 4 weeks. Mireya says you gotta be patient.  And serves her another glass of drink.  Mireya sends Isa home to rest. Isa gets some twitches on her neck but thanks Mireya for her help, you are better than all other therapies, yoga, mantras, etc.  She leaves very happy.
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Weekend Discussion: Life Imitates Art Imitates Life? Revisited


Note:  This is a re-publishing of an August 2013 discussion that I think is relevant because I wonder to what degree the outdated attitudes get revived in remake after remake.  Inspired by a line of dialogue in last night's episode of LSdP.


Do you think that telenovelas reflect or influence human behavior?  A good friend of long standing is under the bizarre impression that in order to have a massively passionate relationship one must also have insane conflict.  I had so many conversations with him during fights and estrangements with various girlfriends from college until his marriage and after his divorce that sounded like novela fights and reconciliations (and he not only isn't Hispanic, he doesn't even watch them).

Last weekend I watched The Godfather, Part III and found an article by a British journalist that discussed the difficulties the studio had with the real mob during production of the original film. Once they settled their issues and the film debuted something interesting allegedly happened:  Real mobsters began addressing their leaders as "Don" and "Dons" became "Godfathers."  The characters on HBO's hit series The Sopranos regarded these films as the bible of Mafia etiquette.

BTW, as an aside, I know that the original Godfather film was a hit in Mexico; in a 2001 novela it was named by a series protagonist as his favorite film.  And El Padrino of QBA looks like he has something of a Vito Corleone complex.

Added:  Do you think outdated attitudes are revived or reviled?  Do you think that the PSA tendencies of novela writers can influence future behavior?

Have it it, amigos.

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Lo Imperdonable #34 Thu 7/2/15

Skipping the old.........

Emiliano is throwing himself a pity party and in walks Matilde. She advises him it's time to get over this love of Veronica. But I can't he shouts! Why do I always have to lose those that I love? First my mother. You know how much I suffered.

Marina has taken a trip to delusional land and believes Pablo just needs some time away to concentrate on his painting. Virginia hopes she isn't confused and that they actually broke up. She'll believes she just rushed the wedding plans. She changes the subject and invites her to go with her to Cancun tomorrow. She's going with Emiliano. Marina wants all the details.

Veronica and Martin make out.

Emiliano thanks Matilde for always being there for him and loving him when he lost his mother. Matilde thinks that with the loss of Veronica, his old wounds of losing his mother have reopened. But life continues....of course it continues replies Emiliano. I do not or will not resign myself. This love is stronger then me and it's killing me. I prefer to die then to throw in the towel. Life took away the love of my mother and now the only woman I can ever love. If I can't recoup Veronica, I will never love again! Way to throw a good-old fashion big boy tantrum! Salma comes in to put a stop to this non-sense. She orders Matilde to leave which Emiliano quickly reminds his mother not to speak to her that way in front of him. Salma apologizes as Matilde leaves.

Veronica and Martin surface from the make out session. He starts to plan their day. He promises to take her to the hotel so that she can send a fax to her family. He playfully gets jealous about Pierre but she reminds him that she only has eyes for him. She can't believe how happy she is. They pledge their love for each other.

Raymunda apologizes to Joaquin for what she told him. It was wrong of her. She's just worried over her father and Ana Perla. She's so young and innocent. I don't want the same thing to happen to her that happened to my aunt. He understands. They are his family too. She says he is the best of the best.

Ana Perla assures her grandfather and brother that she herself will stay in her room. Forever. She has no wish to leave. I just want to die. Her grandfather gets up to go after her but Manuel stops him. He reminds his grandfather that he can't let her do what she wants. Crescencio asks if Manuel if he has ever seen anyone circling Ana Perla. The only one I see sniffing around her is that foreigner replies Manuel. The only that attacked me at the bar. And you are the one that allowed him into this house.

Every woman wants a woman that takes care of them, protects them and loves them says Raymunda. The only thing I ask of you is time. Let us wait until my father is better before we talk to him.

More lovey dovey stuff from the love birds as Veronica is cooking Martin dinner.

Magdalena begs her daughter to forgive her for what she must have suffered at the hands of her father before her death. If I live, it's to remember you. Years of looking for you and to find your tomb. I can't resign myself to your death. I believe you are still alive. Magdalena walks into the living room and finds Nanciyaga crying on the couch. Nanci says the white woman will not allow her to serve the patron. She was told she was free today. She doesn't want to be away from the patron. Magdalena understands she cares for her patron but she's not doing it in the correct way. What you have is jealously. And if you continue feeling that way, you cannot continue living in that house. He is married. Nanci says the only thing she understands is that she needs to care for the patron and flees the house.

Martin tells Veronica that if only he has known she has cooked so well the day they met, he would have married her then. Veronica laughs and says her nana taught her all her secrets. Martin inquires after Nanci. Veronica says she gave her the day off but Nanci wasn’t too happy. I am grateful to her for saving you life and she is a nice person but she seems a bit impulsive with you. I don't feel comfortable around her. Martin thinks the white woman is jealous. Don't you know I only have eyes for you? I know replies Veronica with a smile. But sometimes it's uncomfortable living with her. Martin says he will talk to her and dismiss her but admits he wouldn't like to do it. Veronica couldn't do that. She owes her for saving his life and for her happiness. She will try and explain that they will need privacy. He's ready to go to town but she wants to stop at Magdalena's house first. She feels a deep affection for her but can't really explain why. I feel like she's mine somehow. Like a mother.

Pierre strolls back to his hotel from wherever he came from. He spots Teo outside brooding over some papers he's holding. Teo tells Pierre it's a letter Pablo gave him to deliver to Ana Perla before his departure. He just doesn't know if he should deliver it or not. He heard Pablo had a girlfriend. Pierre is outraged that Teo didn't do the bidding of one of his guests and quickly fires him on the spot.

After Daniel checks out crabby Crescencio, he informs him to stay away from alcohol, coffee and cigars. He must take things with calm and take all his medications. Crescencio doesn't understand what all the fuss is about. Daniel advises him to head to the capital. He has a severe heart problem and if not corrected, could lead to death.

Teo begs for his job back. Ever since his father died after a mine accident, Pierre has been like a father to him. Pierre agrees to give him a chance but understand once and for all he cannot decide for others. Let Ana Perla make her own decisions on what she wants. Now run and give her the letter!

Blanquita and Polo are not happy that their grandfather will not allow them to see Ana Perla. Polo has a little trick up his sleeve to be able to communicate with her. Teo rushes up and Blanquita wants to know where the fire is? Teo says he has a letter to deliver to Ana Perla but Polo says it's going to be difficult since she's grounded. Teo gives it to Blanquita but begs her not to tell her grandfather that he is helping the foreigner. She looks at the letter and finds out that the letter is dated days ago. He admits he's had it since the painter left and has just been holding onto it. Blanquita rips him a new one. She will never forgive him for allowing her cousin to suffer for days not knowing anything from the painter. Now she really never wants to see Teo again.

Julio, the ever faithful servant, comes in to inquire on Crescencio's wellfare. He says it seems he's the only one to care about his health. His grandchildren could care less. He asks Julio if it's so bad that he wants to marry his granddaughter off with someone of his choosing? Julio doesn't think it's his position to opinion, but doesn' want Ana Perla to be in danger. That is exactly what I say replies Crescencio. But she needs to be happy also replies Julio. I have never seen her so unhappy. You have to be careful because there are those that say that some die from sadness.

Veronica tells Teo she needs to send a fax. Teo says there is something wrong with the connection and Martin offers to take a look at it. When he disappears behind the counter, Pierre sounds up. He takes her hand and gives it a kiss. He reminds her about their agreed trip down to the river. He would love to complete his promise to her now that his boat is fixed. Suddenly Martin stands up from behind the counter and gives Pierre the stink eye. Teo cringes behind the counter.

Ana Perla is in her room crying when Crescencio walks in. He tells her she is what he loves most in this world. Then why can you not allow me to choose my own husband so I can be happy she asks. At your age, happiness is misunderstood replies Crescencio. Marriage must have security. Happiness comes with children. Did you not love my grandmother when you married her questions Ana Perla. That was different replies Crescencio. How so she asks. Love has always been the same through all of time. Otherwise no one would have written such beautiful accounts of it. Those stories are just that. Stories says Crescencio. Reality is what I tell you. If I need to choose your husband, it's to insure your security. Many will circle you because I am the richest in the region. There are those that will want to be with me because they love me replies Ana Perla. Crescencio reminds her he's doing this for her well-being. She reminds him that there is no guarantee that everything will turn out alright. You cannot go around fixing my life and my errors. I can at least find a man that will always be at your side, protect you and take care of everything I leave you he replies. If that is what worries you, then don't leave me a cent says Ana Perla. Leave it all to my brother and cousins. He tells her to stop arguing. Nothing will change his mind. I will not be here forever and when I die I want to know I have someone to take care of you.

Pierre tells Martin it's good to see him but Martin calls him on his BS. Pierre says he was just telling Martin's wife about the boat.....Martin tells him he knows what he was saying. Pierre offers to lend them his boat and Martin decides to take him up on his offer. They can continue to enjoy their honeymoon as he shows a lot of PDA in front of Pierre. Martin wants to know how much Pierre will change them to use the boat but he wont hear of it. Martin insists and Veronica leaves the pissing match to send a fax. Martin again asks how much?

Salma can't believe just because Veronica turned him down, Emiliano is going to forgo love forever. He wonders why she never accepted his love for Veronica. Because I was never blind like you she replies. I knew she would never love you. She accepted the love of a stranger then from a wonderful man like you. It hurts me to see you this way. I have always wanted to see you happy with kids. Emiliano is happy that she has accepted him like a son and loved him so. So if you love me like a mother, then show me. Forget about Veronica. Don't love someone that doesn't appreciate you. I don't want to hate her. Emiliano gets mad and says Veronica is not at fault. A mother never forgives someone that hurts their child. If you can't find the love of a good woman like Virginia then I will end up hating Veronica all of my life.

Ana Perla cries and says she doesn’t want her grandfather to die. But doesn't want to marry someone she doesn't love. Do you say that because you love someone asks Crescencio. What difference would that make she asks. Nothing he replies. You don't understand now what I am doing but in a few years you will be grateful for what I did. He leaves and Ana Perla says if she only knew if Pablo would return back to her.

Martin tells Veronica everything is settled. They are bringing lunch with them as he nuzzles her neck for more PDA. Pierre takes this fine opportunity to inform Martin that Claudia will be coming today with the filter for the mine. He orders Teo to pack the food and he has included Veronica's favorite wine. She thanks him as he walks away. Martin mimmicks Pierre as Veronica gives him the stink eye. She's not happy that Claudia is returning. He tells her not to worry. He promised to make her happy and that is exactly what he is going to do. Stop thinking about that and let's enjoy the day. More PDA as Pierre walks in on them.

Blanquita and Polo are trying to figure out how to get the letter to Ana Perla. A vendor selling pastries comes by and Polo has an idea.

Emiliano is in the gun range when Nicholas shows up. Emiliano apologizes for his rude behavior. Nicholas advises him to forget about Veronica and drinking. Emiliano says he will but not now. He has made arrangements to go to Mina Escondida tomorrow. I will leave everything done at work. I promise not to do anything stupid. I just want to make sure she is happy.

Salma joins Virginia and Marina at the club. Marina has to leave. She's going home to tell mommy dearest she's leaving tomorrow for Cancun with Virginia. Salma tells Virginia the only reason she allowed her to leave early with Emiliano to Cancun is because she knew that she would behave like a lady. Of course I would says Virginia. Sex comes after marriage and not before. That is why I invited Marina to go with us. I wanted everything to be appropriate. That makes me happy says Salma. I hope Emiliano realizes what type of woman you are.


The maid brings Ana Perla some lunch. She declines but maid insists that she have the sandwiches that her cousins brought her. Ana Perla gets the hint and opens them up to find a letter from Pablo. She reads the fax that he has done what he promised. He is now free. She finds out he gets back today.


The love birds take a nice trip on the river. She thanks him for behaving around Pierre. He doesn't want to talk about Pierre and enjoy the day.

Pablo says he's coming back so they can get married. He will do anything to defend their love. She's happy but wonders what will she do about her grandfather?

More happy time with the love birds. Lunching, laughter, kissing and frockling in the water.


Pablo has returned. Claudia walks in the door and receives a warm greeting from Pierre. She inquires about Martin and his welfare. Pierre a little down on hearing her mention him says all is well with him. She asks to be taken to her room and she is whisked away. Pablo finds out from Teo that Ana Perla is grounded and no one can see her. Pablo insists he has to see her. Teo says it's too dangerous and especially at night. If her grandfather will kill you if he catches you. Pablo smiles that beautiful smile and asks if her grandfather would really kill him?

Crescencio is glad that Ana Perla has decided to come out of her room and join him for dinner. She has decided to leave her room because she did nothing wrong. So it means nothing that you escaped asks Crescencio. I didn't escape, I just didn't want to continue arguing with you replies Ana Perla. All this time in my room gave me a chance to reflect on things. I'm glad you have decided to get married says Crescencio. This way it will cause less headaches for us all. I have not changed my mind on that says Ana Perla. I cannot keep quiet anymore. I cannot marry anyone else, because my heart already has an owner. It is Pablo, the painter.

Teo tells Pablo that Crescencio ordered one of Raymunda's old suitors murdered. Are you telling me this to scare me asks Pablo. I swear this is true says Teo. That is why people are afraid of him. Just wait until she tells you to come see her. He finally agrees for her.

Salma thinks Jorge was right and they should have sent Emiliano to a rehab facility. Virginia doesn't agree. She doesn't think Emiliano has a problem.



Sorry folks. Recording ended. Please fill in what is missing. Thanks.










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Que Te Perdone Dios #117 – Revelations, Slaps and Fists, No Anvils Yet



Refry: Diego makes himself a third wheel at Mateo and Abi’s lake encounter. Diego accuses Mat of aprovechándose de ella, which could mean forcing himself on her or just taking advantage of the circumstances, which I suppose would be her willingness and desire to be with him. They start hitting each other.

Toño is still pointing the gun at Daddy Julio, who tents his fingers calmly and waits out Toño’s rant about taking advantage of the spinsters. Then, without so much as wrinkling his blue, three-piece, pinstriped suit, he delivers a masterful beatdown of Toño, to Toño. The son has not yet surpassed the father, that’s for sure, and Lucio turns in his grave at the sorry antics of 2.0. Toño has had this coming. Not necessarily from Julio, but Toño had it coming for a long time now.
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Thursday, July 02, 2015

La Sombra del Pasado #98 7/2/15

Tonight's "recap" is more from memory. Lots of things were going on and I'm just ready to hear what the patio has to say. Be prepared for all kinds of condensing and out of order.

Feel free to chime in with any added information.


Padre's Plan and Ren's Ruse
Padre confronts Sev about Nazaria's nefarious accusation. Sev's plan didn't work. Nazaria has a conscience and she's decided not to take Sev's money. So nyah!

Little does Sev know it's ALL A LIE and he play right into Ren's ruse (We all know this was Silvia, but I needed the alliteration.)

Padre leaves Las Animas and heads straight to the law offices of Silvia and Those Other Two. Pato will follow Sev. Sev leads Pato right to Nazaria's hiding place. Pato reports Sev's location. Silvia and Ren head out!

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Que Te Perdone Dios 116 Discussion Page


--Thanks to ViviDC for what follows.--


- Diana blackmails Renata. She wants Renata to sign over all her land and money to Fausto and leave—leaving Diana to marry Fausto. If Renata doesn’t do this, Diana will tell Abi the truth that Renata is her mama. Instead of telling Diana to go take a flying leap, Renata gets all agitated at the thought of Abi learning the truth. Ex-Crazy Connie comes in at the tail end and tells Diana off. She then tries to shake some sense into her cowardly daughter. She can’t give up her property/money, and she HAS to tell Abi the truth NOW. Ren still can’t be moved, so Connie says SHE’LL tell Abi the truth!

- Daniela tells Ximena that she killed Porfirio for her, and hands her his phantom mask. Daniela wants Ximena to be the one to leave for a change, and wants to take on Xi’s life for good. Ximena scoffs that Dani could never be more than a cheap imitation of her. There is only ONE Ximena. They both leave to run their errands, seemingly unconcerned that they are appearing in town at the same time.

- Daniela goes to see Patricio at his home and asks for reassurance that the child she is carrying is his and not Porfirio’s. Pat wearily confirms that he is the sperm donor. Daniela then gets all clingy, making it seem that now that she’s a bereaved widow, PAT should be the one to take on the role of daddy. Pat says that wasn’t the agreement. He explains that Porf was supposed to help him destroy Fausto in exchange for his sperm, but now that Porf is dead, Pat is out of luck. In any case, he thinks Xim-ela should take her baby and all the money she got from dead Porf, and leave town and his life for good. While he gets her some water, Xim-ela answers his phone, and tells a shocked Renata that she and Pat don’t want to be disturbed.

- Meanwhile, Ximena visits Fausto in his new home, La Enramada. Macaria sees them sucking face and isn’t pleased. She is less pleased to have to take orders from Ximena and be treated like a servant. Ximena insults Mac’s coffee, and makes it clear to her that Fausto would never take a lowly servant like her seriously. He’s just using her to satisfy an itch. Later, when Mac confronts Fausto about Ximena, he uses that old Fausto magic, and his moustache-dominated kisses, to get Mac back under control. 

- Ximena informs Fausto that he’s lucky Porf is dead since Fausto owed so many debts to Porf. She crows about how SHE will inherit ALL of Porf’s money since he changed his will and left Max out of it. She tells Fausto that Max knows too much about him, and is a threat Fausto should eliminate. She offers to help him with his Renata divorce problem by making sure Padre doesn’t continue with the annulment proceedings. Later, we see one of the twins in the Church crying. We can’t tell who it is because her necklace is covered. The Padre sees and lends a sympathetic listening ear.

- Diana goes to Barragan and confesses than her brother Julian is really her escaped convict cousin Julio. He was blackmailing her with that photo he took of her and Lucio to keep her quiet, and now he’s conning two women. Meanwhile, Motor is telling Toño about how Julian is conning and has married BOTH sisters. They have to do something about it. Toño goes to his daddy’s house, points a gun at him, and tells him he has to leave the sisters alone, and get the hell out of town, NOW!

-Abi and Mateo hang out at the favorite watering hole, chatting, reaffirming their love, swimming, making out, and then ultimately doing the deed on the riverbank. Unfortunately, Diego, who has been breaking Nieves’ heart and being delusional about Abi’s love for him, spots the two lovers. He’s impactado, and so are they when they realize he has seen them. 


- Julio/an convinces both sisters separately to go to the notary to sign over control of their sister's portion on their assets to him. Now they have each signed over half of their fortune to him, meaning he now has it ALL. He's on the phone talking to the Hand about making their escape when Toño comes in with his gun.

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Wednesday, July 01, 2015

La Sombra del Pasado #97 - Wed 7/1 - Partially-thwarted plans

Yep, Val's knocked up.  And it's all big bad Cris' fault 'cause of that time he got drunk and she kidnapped and raped him.  Cris says there's no way!  But he agrees he doesn't want her to have an abortion.  He's going to be there for her, and take care of the child…but if she thinks he's going to marry her, she's got another thing coming!  And a great cheer goes up from the patio!  However, since we weren't there to defend him, he got slapped in the face for saying that.  She's busy flouncing off the balcony when she runs into Cande, who I'll never believe wasn't lying in wait to make this entrance.  Cris gives Cande the news that Val is pregnant, but he tells her if she wants details--ask Val. Oh, I'm sure Val would give a truthful account…NOT!  Cande ponders her impending grandmotherhood.  I ponder whether this entire scene was set up to happen on the balcony just to for that last image of Cande rocking the full-on Evil Queen vibe with the braids and the collar and the lipstick.

No, Irma doesn't think Lola took the money.  Uriel asks who else could have done it.  Last time, it looked like Lardo was the one who stole money…since it can't have been him this time, maybe both times were Lola.  And if her crime made Lardo look bad, he never wants to see her again.  "Who else had access to your purse?"  Oh, let me think…sitting behind the counter…with the door wide open…and she and Lola in the back, not paying attention…that would be…THE ENTIRE TOWN!  Irma can't think of anyone.  Uriel advises her to confront Lola and watch her for signs of lying.

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Lo Imperdonable #33 Wed 7/1/15 "Martin & Veronica's 24-Hour Lovemaking Marathon - The Complete Sessions"


Freedom Reigns Supreme:  It's fitting that I am writing my recap of episode #33 on the first day of the month in which we celebrate America's freedom.  Why?  Because I am once again asserting our right to freedom from Uni's censorship.  And I am doing it by showing you here ALL the scenes from episodes #32 and #33 that Uni thinks American viewers are not mature enough to watch, even though they were shown without a problem in Mexico.  However, to not hurt any sensibilities, I have identified each of the clips below with what I believe would be their appropriate rating had they been shown in a movie theater.  You will note this includes two clips with "NC17 ratings", so if you have any heart condition, do make sure to clear this with your own Dr. Feelgood, er, cardiologist, before you view either one of those clips.  On to the recap and the deleted scenes.


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Amores con trampa #68 and #69 7/1/15 and 7/2/15

It feels like it's been non-stop action ever since the doomed anniversary fiesta, but with Jarifa as our talented guide it will be smooth sailing no matter what comes our way!

Look for her recap in the comments :-)

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La Sombra del Pasado, Tue. 6/30 Capítulo 96: Get your slapping hands ready, Patio…

Note from HellaShelle: ¡Mil disculpas! I apologize for the late recap. Warnings: This episode was great and I’m not sure I did it justice (the world intervened hard today). See you all on the patio later.

Long: Oh me of too much faith…Aldonza predictably freaks about Valeria being in Cristobal’s room late at night. She barely lets him speak as she chews him out, then hangs up on him. Val smirks in the hallway.

Lola calls Pato specifically to get on his case about Mari. He explains they’ve been friends since before she and Mari fought, but all Lola wants to know is if they talked about her. No Lola, the world does not revolve around you. Silvia thinks it’s a good sign: Lola’s jealous.

Idiot 2 (Lola) joins Idiot 1 (Aldonza) in her room. Aldonza tells Lola she shouldn’t get mad at Pato because they’re not actually dating and it’s exactly what Mari wants. She asks if she really loves Pato the way she loves Eman. Lola doesn’t want to talk about Eman. They switch to Aldi, who’s pissed about that lagartija(=lizard aka Valeria). Don’t get Lola started on the ecogido (=hunched) dinosaur. It’s good that I’m eating popcorn for dinner because this is obviously a middle school sleepover and not two grown ass women seriously trying to figure out their relationship problems.

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Lo Imperdonable #32 Tue 6/30/15 Ana Perla Crashes the party

Bullets because doing back to back recaps is hard:


  • Replay of Botel asking Nanci to leave because he does not want her to give Magdalena false hope.
  • Magda is not happy about the way he treated Nanci but Botel tells her that getting her hopes up will only make it harder for her to recover.
  • Magdalena decides that she is going to shower Veronica with all the love in that she can't give her daughter, Botel tells her that may not be a good idea and we all shout #shutupbotel!
  • The old goat, I mean Crescinsio tells Ana Perla that he is going to marry her off to whomever he picks, cause this is 1875,yo.
  • Ana Perla tells him he can't do such a thing but he's all like, "yes, I can, that's why I'm your grandfather"....so that's what grandparents do? Julio takes the whole scene in, sigh, he's perfect, right? I'm kinda wishing they could have cast him as a potential love intrest for Veronica, cause Santelmo is a jerk, speaking of Santelmo:
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Que Te Perdone Dios Capitulo 115 -Blood ties are more important than Sex Crime


(Some scenes were merged)
  • We tune in to Mat&Faust fighting to death and Mat was just around to kill him but Elena screams that he is his Darth Vader( God damn it Mat if you plan to shoot Daddy Devil , SHOOT).  The hurt Abi pulls Mat's gun down. Mat tells them all to leave except Fart and his dear mom. Renata merely threatens Faust to leave tomorrow cause he doesn't know what she's capable off ( She is only capable of long threats, like QTH even Mac has more balls.Marcelino least has a fried one) . Mat's look in the eyes is certainly not "Um hey Daddy haven't seen you for a long time how you've been?" which is quite redeemable. 


  • Daniela is flagging the story of depression,   and suicide to Uncle Barry ( Of course Max hasn't left a suicide  note , what a smart dude NOT. Well it's not like dead men can write) . She tells him that Porf became a different jealous  man ever since the accident. Uncle Barry sucks it all in like a Hoover vacuum cleaner. 
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Tuesday, June 30, 2015

Give me back my nana! La sombra del Pasado #95 06/29/2015

Bullet points today, cause I overslept this morning :/


  • Sev drops all the charges against Padre J, before leaving the station and in front of the police officers he says "that priest better not think this is the end of this"- and storms out of the police station, Nava is all like "dude you can't say things like that in front of the popo" and Sevs all like "I don't care!"
  • We get a replay of Adriano getting shot, the creepy thing is that his "blood" is the same shade as my favorite lipstick.
  • Aldi and Padre J walk out to find half the town waiting outside of the police station, they are all chanting that they love Padre Jeronimo, and they even brought signs! Sadly, no one bothered to use glitter. Boo.
  • Padre J tells Aldi that Sev dropped all the charges and they wonder why, cause it's not like Sev has a heart or anything, they both agree to worry about the Sev problem later.
  • Back at Las Animas Cris is busy pouting because Mel and Dom are gone, Candela tells him that Dom made her decision after admitting to bad behavior, but if it will make him feel better she will ask Dom and Mel to come back, Cris tells her she might be out of luck because Aldi has already offered them a job. Candela actually says "that woman is not happy with taking away my son but now she wants my nana too?!" and storms out.
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Que Te Perdone Dios Capitulo 114- Highlights


I am doing the highlights today for episode 114 instead of CorazonSalvaje.  I will see  to you tomorrow.


  • Connie warns Abi of the threat that Fausto poses to her but her request falls on deaf ears. Abi decides that if Ren gets the divorce  she will move to live with Fausto.

  • Daniela has learned of the pregnancy news from Porfirio but realizes that the baby is not from Pat. It turns out Porfirio has been planning the antic for a long time. Their conversation gets interrupted by Max who decides to interrogate him regarding his part in Lucio's murder. Daniela gets memories of the vicious onslaught on her parents , pulls  the gun from her bag and shoots Porf dead  but not before revealing her secret identity. Max makes the death appear like suicide. (In the words of Dothraki "A wedding without atleast three deaths is considered a dull affair") 

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Lo Imperdonable #31 Mon 6/29/15 When you're in love, Green Hell feels like Paradise - or - The Protagonists Finally Catch a Break.


Even Vero had begun to think of him as Crazy Marty.  Now Dr. F has declared him sane (the high-pitched giggle? just an endearing tic), Marty has surrendered to love, and the couple's problems are behind them.  Claudia and Ginny are both safely in Mexico.  Yes, Nanciyaga is still (omni)present, but for the most part, her machete is sheathed.

Of course Vero doesn't know that Marty has chosen to FORGIVE her for something she didn't do and that while he has set aside his lust for vengeance, he is still conflicted and riddled with guilt.  It wouldn't take too much to upset the balance in this supposedly balanced man.  It is much too soon to make him our Mental Health Poster Child.

(Nor does Vero know how ready he was to believe the worst of her and how he had been trashing her behind her back while swearing his confidants to silence.  Oh man.  She's gonna be sooooooooooo mad when she finds out.)

In the hills overlooking the falls.

Marty vows to make Verónica the happiest woman in the world.  His love for her is stronger than any other feeling ... like, say, hatred or desire for revenge (though he doesn't say this last part out loud).   
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Monday, June 29, 2015

Amores con trampa #66 and #67 6/29/15 and 6/30/15

From Friday
Estefy and Maria are going out for a girl day.

The Panzón tells Florenico Gallardo that Maria and Fac are having trouble. Florencio wants to put a smile back on Maria’s face.

Florencio wastes no time in calling the Carmonas. Perpetua wastes no time in hanging up on him.

Today
Fac is NOT happy about El Panzón spreading gossip. Perptetua asks what Fac is going to do. Florencio was always in love with Maria and now that he’s a widower, he may try and win her back. Fac knows Maria loves him. Perpetua and Fac decide not to tell that Maria about Florencio’s calls. They unplug the phone.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS: EL SEÑOR DE LOS CIELOS 3, TIERRA DE REYES, AVENIDA BRASIL, etc – week of June 29, 2015

This week Aurora begins in the 9:30am Central time slot.  We didn't quite recap this one during its original run, but we had plenty to say about it.  If you're interested, check it out beginning here.

I enjoyed the actors, despite some bizarre casting decisions.  (We are expected to believe that 20 years has turned Eugenio Siller into Jorge Luis Pila!)  I really liked Sara Maldonado in the title role.

Personally, I thought the first third or so of this one was a hoot – the science was SO VERY SILLY,  definitely in the so bad it's good category.  I only gave up on it when it seemed to lose focus and abandon the fairy tale at its core.  Me, I like a telenovela to have a strong story arc and tidy resolutions.  (For random and tangential, there's always real life, right?)

In other news:

Telemundo has devoted plenty of space on its website to Bajo el Mismo Cielo, though it is still skittish about telling us when it starts and what it replaces.

Stop by and chat about the current shows, won't you?

Enjoy the week and have a great Fourth of July!

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Saturday, June 27, 2015

YNCILH: Still Needs 4 Recappers!

Those of you interested in viewing this one feel free to step up, even if it's only highlites/bullet points.  Otherwise, it may go uncovered.    
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--Thanks in advance!

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Que Te Perdono Dios #113: Both Ends Against The Middle!

Parte 1~~

And let the anvils start falling……please??????

While Old Fart Fausto is getting his ego de macho handed to him on a plate with Abigail’s admission that her attentions have been solely as a daughter for her estranged papi, Diana’s just gotten her smack-down in front of Helena, Renata and Crazy Constanza from Mateo, courtesy of Marcelino.  “—Get yourself a lawyer Diana because you’re going to need one.  The legal fight for custody is coming and you know very well that I’ve got the weapons to fight you with.”

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Que Te Perdone Dios Capitulo 111- Highlights

Here are the highlights of Episode 110

  • Fausto is still threatening Renata and has her now beaten to the ground. Meliton comes to protect her but shortly after Meliton spills that he knows everything gets shot in the head but not before Mel cursing Fausto to an eternity in Hellfire. Tony gets called to the scene to bury Mel in exchange that Simona's debt to Fausto gets nulled permanently which later happens .


  • Abi rejects Mat's marriage proposal but reveals that she suspects Fausto is her Daddy.Mat also admits to Abi  that  Mac has tried to sell Abi to him & Max. They also agree to make DNA tests between Abi and Renata.


  •  Faust drags Renata home the same way Bruno did once, violently. They get into a shouting match but luckily the repentant Padre Tomas is there to stop him. Padre Tomas promises Connie that he will do best to annul their marriage. Later in the end Faust threatens Renata to tell Abigail the whole truth. 

  • Diana is informed by Fausto that her lawyer, Marcelino failed to represent her therefore Mat is now free as a bird. All rants ensue as Marc celebrates.


  • Tony had done his job therefore the debt is now annulled. He gets to become the new capataz and installs himself in Lucio's house and even uses his clothes. 

  • Julian has returned home now married twice( In secret of course) .

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La Sombra del Pasado #94 - Fri 6/26 - Stakes are raised

That's right, Dominga helped the Padre find a document to use to forge Sev's signature.  And if they want to turn her into the cops, fine.  And if they want to fire them BOTH, fine…and if not, Dominga quits.  Mel says they can't work for people who would go after a priest just for telling the truth.  Sev calls them dogs, biting the hand that feeds them.  He tells them to be grateful he's not going to go after them legally, but he wants them gone first thing tomorrow and he never wants them to set foot on "his" hacienda ever again.  Cande and Dominga share a tearful glance before Domina and Melesio leave Sev's office.

Don Antonio has set Em up in what, to Em, is a palatial suite.  Don Antonio wants Em and Solitario working with a trainer ASAP.  Sure, Em rides well, and Solitario is gorgeous, but it's been mostly talent so far.  What Em needs is technique so he can keep improving before he starts competing against more experienced riders.

Severiano promotes Jacinto and tells him Melesio is fired "por metiche" (because he's a meddler) and he and his wife are outta there for being "malagradecidos" (ungrateful).  And BTW, Jacinto's salary won't be going up, at least not until he proves he can handle the job.  Oddly, Jacinto doesn't get the hint that that was a dismissal, and that's because he has important news to deliver to Sev--"Um…a bunch of the guys came by this morning and, uh…they quit."  I had to pause to laugh for several moments, 'cause that was just so delicious.  And then I had to do a fake screencap because I'd paused it on such a great facial expression of Alexis Ayala's.

They what?!


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Friday, June 26, 2015

Lo Imperdonable #30 Special Post - Two Unedited Clips from Final Sequence

Hi All,

Please be sure to read Mauricio's wonderful recap of Lo Imperdonable's Episode 30, which is posted immediately below this special post.

We wanted to include these unedited scenes within Mauricio's own recap post, but alas after much effort to upload one single 5-minute clip of the entire waterfall sequence to a new Dailymotion channel, it was soundly rejected.  The single clip also exceeded Caray's size limit for videos.  So, I opted to only include here the (ahem) "horizontal" parts of Martin and Veronica's "Waterfall Rendezvous at Sunrise".


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Lo Imperdonable #30 Fri 6/26/15 Love By The Waterfall

Veronica and Martin are kissing passionately unaware that they have a group of children as their audience. The children applaud at them. Veronica wants to go inside so Martin can rest and get his stitches changed. Martin jokes around that he wants to thank their audience. This is the Martin that Veronica loves - the one who laughs, loves, and makes jokes. The kids ask the lovebirds for a birdie kiss and the two lovebirds comply to the children's wishes and give each other a peck on the lips.

Botel consoles Magdalena at the cemetery and asks her the stupidest question of the century. Is she feeling a little better? Magdalena stands up and yells at him that she can't feel better. In fact, she'll NEVER be able to be happy. She kneels down on the supposed grave of her deceased daughter and grief stricken she says that her daughter is dead.

At the hovel, Veronica sends Martin off to bed while she gets the supplies needed to change his stitches. Before doing as told, Martin has a chat with Nanciyaga. “Patron esta  contento, pareciera que por herida se fue mala sangre” (Boss is happy, it seems as if the bad blood came out from the wound). Looking behind him, Martin asks Nanciyaga if that is what she thinks. “Eso sabe Nanciyaga, igual y no era tormenta lo que veia si no vientos que cambiaron para otro rumbo” (That’s what Nanciyaga knows, perhaps it wasn’t a storm what she saw and instead it was winds that changed direction). Martin asks her if she really does see beyond … (he mumbled something I could not get). Nanciyaga tells Martin that she talks to spirits when it’s noche nueva (nighttime) and there is no moon. They come and tell her things that she can’t say unless it’s necessary. He asks her if the dove is a message from his brother. She tells him that doves bring peace and are of light. He doesn’t know why he’s even asking her this since he doesn’t believe in these things. She tells him that he doesn’t have to believe since the signals present themselves anyway. He asks her if this is a good sign and she replies that it is but to not be so trustworthy. She leaves as Veronica comes back with the supplies in hand. He stares at Veronica and thanks her for giving him the opportunity to save their marriage. She kisses him. The two head for the bedroom. 


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Amores con Trampa #65 ...some planned invitees to the store opening, some not so planned invitees making plans to go)... and a nightmare from the past is coming back, Facu!!

Refritos: Santee comes in Estefi’s apartment and is outraged at finding his wife’s furniture there.  He starts word-slamming down Estefi that she is a nobody, has nothing! Just a leach dressed as waiter.
He says he will get her out of his apartment.
New:
Beto confirms to Rocio that it was Hilda who got a ‘brebage’ into her drink. Rocio laughs it off, still not quite believing or giving the ‘witchcraft’ credit. She swears she will love Beto no matter what witchcraft is thrown her way.  Beto says he wants to marry her ASAP… he gets momentarily scared that the witchcraft worked and she does not want to marry him anymore… Nah! Let’s do it!
At Carmonas dinner table, everyone seems a bit more up in spirits… However, Maria stands up fairly quickly… Carmen tries to play peacemaker… Maria says she just wants to concentrate on her store.  Beto comes in.  He says will spend the day tomorrow with Rocio. Facu does not feel that is proper… but Beto says he will spend more time with Rocio from now on… wait for it… wait for it… he proposed to Rocio!!.. All the Carmonas suddenly are speechless, frozen in time.
At the Velasco living room, Santee seems a bit entertained at Isabel’s bad mouthing the ‘gorditos’ relatives of the Carmonas.  Santee starts getting slimy around her neck and she seems to not really enjoy it. Santee wants to roll in the sheets.  Wants her to warm him up… she says not even burning the furniture.  He keeps staring at her and breathing hard… mentions something about a police investigation.
Beto and his parents argue about his getting engaged to Rocio.   He doesn’t get why they let him date her if they are not ok with him marrying her. The parents angrily say they don’t want to become related to the VElascos.  Facu angrily rants at Beto that he expected Beto to protect his kids/family, not to go roll in the hay with that girl.  Facu throws Beto out. Beto says if you think you will stop me from marrying Rocio just because you kick me out to the curb, you are sooooo wrong.
In their bedroom, Facu is scared they just lost Beto for good. Maria rants at him for treating Beto like that.  She argues ‘if you had been tougher on him from the get go like I was this would not have happened!’  Facu does not want to argue. Maria just leaves the room.  Facu is upset that all his matchmaking efforts are splitting up the people he wanted to get close to each other.
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La Vecina- Highlights and Discussion #1-10 June 22-July 3 2015


The first week is over. Here are some highlights and information. It felt like a mind-boggling amount of stuff to digest. Please feel free to add anything in the comments.

The Players
Progreso and San Gaspar
Sara Granados(protagonista), Merce(Sara's mom), Juancho(Sara's brother), Cheo(Sara's Ex), Roque(friend of Cheo) Simón(Sara's uncle), Bruno(Sara's friend and I assume Simón's business partner), Pedro(Bad Guy stealing gas from Conatrol), Marina(Secretary at Conatrol), Pepe, Ramon, Rafa Padilla the actor formerly knows as Morales(Workers at Conatrol),Fidel(Policeman and atheist), Magda(wife of Fidel and professing Catholic), Vladimir(their son, wants to take his first communion on the sly), Padre Vicente(the priest and another uncle of Sara's)

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La Sombra del Pasado, Capítulo 93, 2015: Ok, so this is happening…Or not. aka Say what?!

Recap courtesy of HellaShelle

”Short of It” at the end
The Long of It: Aldonza and Cris kiss it out and then sit because the man is using a cane. Cris tells Aldie he went to find Eman. He didn’t, but Eman won a competition, so yay. He found out about the sibling lie when he spoke to Dom. Aldie tells him they think his parents messed with the test he ordered, but they’re not sure.

Now that Silvia and Ren’s drama is on simmer, Pato has time to bring flowers to the ribbon shop. Irma’s glad he’s back because Lola’s a bit down. “Emmanuel?” “Emmanuel.” Pato’s ready to kick E’s delightful butt, but Irma tells him to slow his roll. It’s not worth it and the dude skipped town anyway. Irma’s totally Team Pato and Pato wants to take this thing with Lola all the way. He whispers his definition of that to Irma, who doesn’t slap him across the face, so it must be the other kind of “all the way.”

Lola is busy with Mari, reminding me of why I could cheerfully leave both of them on the side of the road. Mari starts by saying she’s put what Lola did behind her. Say what? Lola asks. She just came to talk, not to apologize. If anyone should be apologizing, it’s Mari. They go back and forth about who stole what kiss and what boyfriend and who’s jealous of who and, honestly, who even cares because they both need to go to the time out table and Mary needs to go to the time out therapy couch because she knows she’s a big ol’ lyin’ liar and she still—

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Lo Imperdonable #29 Thu 6/25/15 Everybody has a grave to visit


Martin has his almost “Visit the grave and complain” scene. This time he admits that he loves Veronica, so he needs to make a decision. But what will that be? To some ominous choir music, he explains that he doesn’t want to let Dim down, but he can’t take it anymore. Could his bro send him a sign, show him what he should do?
The monologue finished, he calls for Lorenzo to come help him. Lorenzo thinks that the dead always send messages, at least that’s what Nancyaga says. Dim was a good man, he will send some help from up above.
And there flies a white dove, settling on Dim’s cross, which makes an impression on Lorenzo. Martin is not sure if he believes in these kind of things, though (this, after he just asks his brother for a sign – Dim and Dimmer).

Magda tells Jorge that she came to see Salma, but since she’s away, she will leave now. He offers to give her a ride in his car and forget about taking a cab the next time she wants to visit – she can call and he will send his driver for her. As the two leave, Matilde is left shaken to the core by her earlier talk with Magda about Vero.

Joaquin comes to search for Martin and tells Vero that the miners are doing better now. She doesn’t know where her husband is, but does he know where Dim’s tomb is? Could he take her to it? Joaquin really doesn’t want to, the padrecito might get upset with him. Vero doesn’t see why that would happen and she doesn’t care if the cemetery is far, Joaquin could just show her the way and then go about his business. He reluctantly agrees and they go on their way, unaware that Nancy is watching them.

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Que Te Perdone Dios #112 – Babies, Fathers, Weddings and Lucio 2.0



Fausto confronts Renata and Ex-Crazy Con at The Hacienda and says he will never grant Ren a divorce. He threatens to tell Abigail the truth about who’s her mommy, and Renata acts like she will stand strong and let the truth be heard. This is messed up, because there have been many good reasons and opportunities to tell Abi the truth over the decades, and the one that finally moves Ren is that if she lets Fausto tell Abi the truth, then Fausto has nothing with which to impede the divorce, and Ren can marry Pat. The whole guardando la verdad de Abi  has been in Ren’s self-interest most of the time.

Simona has summoned Comandante Barragan because Toño was missing all night. She tells him that the night that Lucio was killed, Toño came home drunk and said… Enter Lucio reincarnated! It's like he’s not really dead! Toño has assumed Lucio’s position as capataz, assumed his home, and most assuredly assumed his wardrobe. All that is left is for Toño to be rude and make some hand gestures like Lucio and the transformation into 2.0 will be complete. Toño obliges. He’s doing all this for Simona, to pay off her debt, to protect her and because he is a MAN. He tries to act godfather-ish with voice modulation and creepy kisses, but Toño as the latest bad dude in town is not completely convincing. Not like his predecessor was.
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Thursday, June 25, 2015

Que Te Perdone Dios - KarmaGeddon knocks tight even for God's favorites

Hello today (Even if this is not a Weekend discussion and it wouldn't merit because the show is not popular enough)   I would like to create a special post , a post we all have awaited. We were always taught to be merciful to the bad guys even if the villains were possessive hot machos, the women were mostly not evil manipulating mothers which annoyed us to no end. But sometimes the villains do not teach us much heck they don't teach us anything ( Except to never forget keeping the shrinks our shrinks not shrimps) , they make us hate them and hate them until we only wish upon their demise. Such are the lunatics in our favorite  dark,terror,brainless and you just gotta they have an untold amount of luck but soon their's about to run out or it  already has.




The Devil with a Nice Hat

Name: Fausto Lopez Guerra  ( Sergio Goyri) AKA  "The Devil"

Crimes:
Despicable, murderous, ambitious, cruel, abusive, violent. Is also despised by the viewers  for being a mass rapist and a mass murderer  either by mind manipulation or brute force. He does all these acts without feeling empathy or remorse.

Also guilty for using women as toilet paper and wearing Dark Lord clothing thus he is not a Fashion Disaster. He is also a candidate for  Father of the Year.

Karmageddon : TBD ( Joke: Dragged to Hell in which he is tortured by Ramsay Snow and then given as sacrifice to the White Walkers) 


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Wednesday, June 24, 2015

Lo Imperdonable #28 Wed 6/24/15 "Everyone (including Martin) Tries to Figure Out If He Is Crazy.....Or Perhaps Just Crazy In Love"

(some scenes are combined)


Repeated Scene:  Veronica storms out of the bedroom, then listens through the closed door as Claudia tries to pry from Martin details of his married life, telling him he knows she still loves him.  He admits he and Veronica have problems, but only he can resolve them with Veronica.  He tells Claudia she can't stay in his home.  She says that wasn't her plan, but she has nowhere else to go.  He offers to let her stay in their living room.

Lo Nuevo:  NanC comes in and sees Veronica sitting in the living room and crying.  She tells NanC she plans to sleep there.  NanC offers her the second bedroom, since she prefers to sleep outside on the hammock.  While NanC goes to prepare the extra room for Veronica, Claudia comes out of the marital bedroom.  Veronica quickly wipes off her tears and tells her harshly that she took longer than expected to come to town to see Martin.  She tells Claudia she always knew she loved Martin, but her shameless effrontery (descaro) surprises here.  Claudia tells her she will always "be there" for Martin, even if he is married to Veronica.  Veronica wonders if she will be his lover and reminds her he already has a wife, and if he didn't marry her before, well then why would he want to now.  Claudia claims she is only there as Martin's friend and co-worker, and she has no place to go, but if it bothers Veronica for her to stay in the living room as Martin just offered her, then she will just return to the church.  Veronica tells her to take the extra bedroom.  Claudia tries to resist, but Veronica cuts her off and makes it clear that SHE is the "lady of the house" and what SHE says goes.  Claudia says fine and tells Veronica that Martin wants to speak with her, then heads to the extra room.


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La Sombra del Pasado #92 - Wed 6/24 - All…uh…some?...hmmm... A little bit is revealed

Padre J clarifies that what Lulu is passing out are the results of a test performed using blood samples from Severiano and Aldonza that proves that they are not related…and therefore that Aldonza and Cris are not related by blood…and therefore, there's no reason they shouldn't be married.  So he advises the two families to make their peace, because this is God's will.  Sev threatens Padre J, in front of all those witnesses, that he'll make them pay!  Aldonza starts looking around for Cris.

He's on a bus, thinking that she'll always be the love of his life, even if she is his sister.

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Amores con trampa #63 and #64 The Hootenanny Edition!

The day has finally arrived!! Wing-ding at the Carmonas!

Look for Jarifa's wonderful rundown of the happenings in the comments.

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Lo Imperdonable #27 Tue 6/23/15 Manuel needs an anvil

Telenovela Death Watch 2015: 

Cresencio is still alive (boo, hiss)
Manuel, also still alive- what does a recapper have to sacrifice to the gods to get them to kill these two off? Goats, cats, virgins? Where am I going to find one of those in Los Angeles? Sorry, I got distracted, and now your recap!


Veronica wakes up to find Claudia sitting in her bedroom like a creeper, she's rubbing Martins feet and this dos not sit well with Veronica, and can anyone blame her? Claudia explains that she found out about Martin being injured and that she came to help (oh do you have a medical degree missy?). Veronica tells her there's nothing Claudia can do there and if she really wants to help she should go to the church to look after the injured men, they need all the help they can get.

Vero gets out of bed and Nanci makes her a juice to help her get her strength back, Vero wants to know where the doctor is and is told that he went to get something to drink to freshen up, it turns out he also took the time to take a shower because he is headed to the church to help. Veronica looks at Claudia and says "I guess you're going with them to help, right?"- ah what a nice way to say "get the hell out of my house you skank". Claudia reluctantly says that yes, she will be going to help at the church, once she leaves Nanci tells Veronica that the perfumed lady (Claudia) holds things in her heart. Then she says she's going to make Vero and Martin a soup so that they can get better.
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Que Te Perdone Dios Capitulo 110- And we're back with No Brains





In no particular order( There was a 3 week time skip)



  • Abi is having nightmares that Diego accepted marriage with her of course after long tedious begging.

  • Tony is drinking away but slowly enough pulls himself together to scream "Mamma". He returns to the house and refuses to confess himself to Simona but he does plead for a hug. Simona thanks Dios for bringing him home in the least even if the cat got Tony's tongue.

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La Sombra del Pasado, Capítulo 91, 06/23/2015: Everyone’s got a lost love

Recap courtesy of HellaShelle

The Short of It: Cris and Aldi agree they should take some time apart. Eman actually tied for first place in the horse competition. Cande and PJ get everyone to PJ’s special reconciliation mass. Ren and Silvia don’t kiss, but they do make up. Silvia’s says she’s Team Ren now. Tomás and Pru meet at the church. Sev tries to assault Aldonza AGAIN! The Phantom Pain stops him. Joaquin finally sees Adelina again and lays a big kiss on her. Flavia confronts Adriano about being a murderer. Mari feels guilty. Irma’s worries about Mari and asks Lola to help. Everyone but Cris attends the mass…where PJ announces Cris and Aldonza are NOT siblings and hands out proof! Val passes out. Cris is already on a bus out of town.

The Long of it:Lost Love #1: Believed Incest Cris and Aldonza sit awkwardly in her living room. Aldonza prompts her husb…bro…Cris to talk. As much as he wanted to talk to her, the words won’t come. He just can’t see her as his sister. She feels the same. He apologizes for being so stubborn. If he had given up before, she wouldn’t be in such pain now. She says they were both stubborn. Cris thinks it would be best if they didn’t see each other for a while, at least until they get used to being siblings. Aldonza agrees. There’s nothing much more to say. He starts to stand and Aldonza helps him up. They’re kissably close and they both feel it. Aldonza moves to lead him to the door. She goes one way around the flower table, he follows around the other, but they’re magnets, so they meet again at the front landing step. They draw close…before they again remember that their love is forbidden now. Cris offers his hand for a handshake, but they just hold each other’s hand before slowly pulling away. Cris finally leaves and Aldonza leans against the door and cries.

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Tuesday, June 23, 2015

Wife, free to good home La Sombra Del Pasado #90 06/22/15

Hello my patio peeps! Below you will find your Monday night recap-please do not discuss the previews!


Take my wife-please!

 We get a replay of last Friday night's episode. Cristobal, having received the false DNA results calls Renato over to hand over his wife. Yep, cause that's how things are done in 2015. He tells Renato to take Aldonza and make her happy because he's not able to. Renato tries to argue and says that Aldonza does not love him, Cris won't take "no" for an answer. Renato must make Aldonza fall in love with him!

 Dude, to quote the little old ladies from the Progressive commercial, that's not how it works, that's not how any of this works! He also tells Renato to rush the divorce and Ren tells him the process will take as long as it needs to, he's not going to speed it up. Cris makes Ren promise not to tell Aldonza that they met. In the hall Candela takes it all in. Her plan worked.

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New Telenovela: Yo No Creo En Los Hombres/ I Have No Faith In Men


"Yo No Creo En Los Hombres/ I Have No Faith In Men" replaces Que Te Perdone Dios on July 13th and that's in the 10PM Eastern time slot.  [FYI: it won 7 premios for acting and directing at the 2015 awards.  So, although it is another in a long and seemingly endless list of refritos Univision chooses to serve up, this could be another diamond in the rough.  Could be...... as a telenovela taken from a Caridad Bravo Adams novel (one of Martai and my favorites!) whose screenplay is written by Aída Guajardo (nominated for best screen adaptation). Some familiar and strong actors are in this one:  Flavio Medina,  Rosa María Bianchi, Azela Robinson, Alejandro Comacho for a few.  Gabriel Soto and Adriana Louvier (Best Actress 2015 Premios) are the two leads in this one.]  
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Maria Dolores is a beautiful young woman of small means and greatly idealistic. She is also a contender and has the strength to get ahead when faced with adversity.  She is a seamstress who exists within a sphere in which men surround her. (We, fortunately, can expect at least one or two will be a rotten lowlife.)   With her job, Maria Dolores supports her mother, Esperanza, herself, and her sister, Clara.  Maria Dolores’s boyfriend is Daniel.  His life, however, is not a bed of roses.  Daniel turns out to be rich, but is passing himself off as a poor man in order not to feel ashamed in light of his social class and above all, his mother, Ursula, who’s the matriarch of the Santibáñez family and prejudiced against the poor.  (Grrrrrrr!)  Ursula’s children, Daniel and Maleny, were trained to inveigle and maneuver rich people, the first being designer Ivana Duval, heiress and owner of a large (and no doubt successful) company; the second is Max Bustamonte, an attorney, who follows the law to the letter.  (Gotta love those straight arrows, frustratingly  dense as they usually are.)

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Lo Imperdonable #26 Mon 6/22/15 Schmalz, Blood and Cyanide.


Marty splits open like a piñata and it's all Vero's fault.

Over Veronica's protests, Crazy Marty insists on going to the church to talk to the miners.  Somehow Lorenzo gets him there (a gentle horse is involved but the details are left to our imagination).  Marty limps inside, clutching at the wound in his belly.  He tells the sick men that a doctor is on the way, and he promises to keep paying them their wages while they are recovering.

Again ignoring Vero's warnings, Marty pushes on to the mine, where he meets up with Crescencio and Joaquín.   He has figured out the best way to repair the cyanide leak and will supervise the work.  
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Yo No Creo En Los Hombres-Index

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Monday, June 22, 2015

Amores con trampa #61 and #62 6/22/15 and 6/23/15

Some scenes combined and condensed.

El Refritito
Porfirio overhears Fac the human talking to Fac the horse. He says to himself "Oh Facundo. If only you knew how much your mother loved you. Ah well. The past is best left in the past. It's painful and we shouldn't think about it." (I really like Ignacio Lopez Tarso. Such a good actor.)

At the boutique
Abuela is making sure Rocio knows how much she dislikes Santiago. Maria is worried about Santi. Rocio is too. He takes a lot to heart and Rocio doesn't know how much longer he'll be able to take it.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS: EL SEÑOR DE LOS CIELOS 3, TIERRA DE REYES, AVENIDA BRASIL, etc – week of June 22, 2015

 Friday's episode of Tierra de Reyes was supposed to be pre-empted but wasn't so they showed Thursday's episode again!

Deb kindly posted a status report on where we are with the 3 prime-time novela as of Friday:
"Avenida Brasil" 52 of 160 (international release was cut from 179 on original run)
"Tierra de Reyes" 133
"El Señor de los Cielos" 39 (season 1 was 74, 2 was 84)

Promos for "Bajo el Mismo Cielo" are running. I think that will replace Señor but I'm not sure. 

Deb also reports that "Aurora" is scheduled to replace "Una Maid en Manhattan" on Monday at 10:30am EDT. The Brazilian version of El Clon continues at 12pm EDT.

So that's where we are right now. Over to you.

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Saturday, June 20, 2015

Lo Imperdonable #25 Fri 6/19/15 Let's Rub Our Arms To Help Us Get Through This Mess

Greetings everyone! I'm not sure what happened with yesterday's recap but here are some bullet points (from memory) of the highlights to help fill in what happened (please feel free to add if I missed anything or to correct me if I get anything wrong)

  • The miners from both La Moreneita (Martin's mine) and La Perla (Crescencio's mine) both get intoxicated from drinking water contaminated with cyanide. This is due to Manuel the idiot not having changed the filter when he should have.
  • Manuel is released from prison and Crescencio tells him about the conditions Martin put to forgive him. Oh and Manuel will sign and come with him to give Martin the document where Manuel promises to behave.
  • Ana Perla was still upset with Pablo but the two end up kissing and making up. Pablo will go and break things off with Mariana when he gets the chance to go to the city.
  • Emiliano is stressed at the office and Virginia (determined to turn him into an alcoholic because it'll be easier to dominate him) serves him a drink and tells him it'll make him feel better. He at first declines but ends up accepting it and chugs it down. He later serves himself another drink.
  • Veronica finds out Demetrio is dead from Joaquin. She goes and asks Martin about it and Martin accuses her of having been Demetrio's lover. She denies and gets mad at him.
  • Botel offers to compensate Dr. F really well with money if he replaces him in Mina Escondida for some time. Dr. F says he needs the money and will think about the proposal. For now he'll be in Mina Escondida for 15 days. Claudia shows up and Botel takes one good look at her and how she's dressed and tells her to ummm wear something a tad more comfortable for the trip.
  • Virginia realizes how sending Claudia over to Mina Escondida wasn't such a good idea because she could cause problems between Martin and Veronica. Virginia says she has to do something about that.

The new stuff...

Martin knows Vero doesn't understand him. But he doesn't understand himself either. He's sooo tormented by it all. Vero thinks he's "tormented" by his jealously. She knows they love each other but sometimes it's not enough. They have to fight to keep their love alive and attempt to comprehend and and trust each other. She asks him to please trust her. She kisses him and the kiss quickly turns passionately. Will the marriage FINALLY be consummated? Nope. The two lovebirds are interrupted by a knock on the door.  
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Que Te Perdone Dios #108, Double Vision: Max Does A Double-Take of Ximena's Fake

Parte 1~~

Renata walks into Fausto’s bedroom and pretends not to see Diana and Fausto aiming pistols at each other.  To Fausto’s credit he doesn’t lie about Di being there.  Ren asks her what the heck she’s doing in her hubby’s bedroom.  Di says she’s there asking why Mateo hasn’t gotten home yet.  (Yeah, like why not just go downstairs and ask the staff, or anybody else in the common areas of the house, right?)  Di and Feisty lie about her leaving the room to rest up in her most delicate condition and then hiding in the corner with the gun still aimed at him.

Ren plays blind and dumb and leaves.  However, once she gets back to her own bedroom she’s impactada at the sight of the two of them wanting to obliterate each other and wonders if they’re still lovers or what.

Back in draw-down central, Feisty’s fractious doxie of a daughter-in-law gets dissed once again.  “—You should never have survived our accident.  You ought to be in Hell about now.”  “—Yeah, but the Devil left me alive to get rid of you for him.”  “—Don’t you know you can’t harm me?”  she tries shooting him in the foot but the revolver is empty, just like Fausto had warned her it would be.  “—There’s not a person born who can get the better of me!” he informs her.  She gives up—but not in.  “--And?  Now what?” He’s not going to bother killing her, especially not in his house, dirtying up his room.  She claims he’s just a pitiful wuss.    He slaps the crap out of her and then moves in on her; they launch into hot and heavy tongue swallowing.  (I honestly don’t know how these two actors manage not to break up into uncontrollable giggles and guffaws after a scene like this…..)

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Friday, June 19, 2015

La Sombra del Pasado #89 Friday, 6-19-15 "We Are Family. . .I Got All My Siblings with Me. . ." but nobody's happy!



Hello, my friends of the Sombra Patio!  Time for another Friday on the Patio, get a refill of your favorite beverage from the Naughty Melon (you may need it), get your darts sharpened and ready, let’s see what up in the Santa Lucia Zoo!  Some scenes have been combined (hope it flows all right) and as usual, feel free to correct and expand in the comments, especially the horsey stuff!

Sev and Hum continue their conversation/confrontation over those coveted lands.  Hum reminds Sev that he gave his word and promised the lands as a condition of Hum’s performing the delicate, life-saving arterial repair on Cristobal’s leg.  Sev dismisses this as meaningless as he said it under great stress and desperation.  Sev maintains that what should govern Hum’s behavior as a Dr. is the oath HE took to take care of patients without condition.  Yes, Hum is a Dr., but he’s also a common man, with interests and ambitions as Sev so aptly taught him!  Sev abandons the appeal to professional ethics for something he’s more comfortable with:  threats!  “Don’t play with me, you know what I’m capable of! Sev sneers.  Hum stands his ground and declares that it’s time he put on his big boy pants!  He’s tired of being accomplice to the shady and dastardly crap Sev has done and it’s time to defend himself and what’s his!  Sev warns Hum for the last time, ES is not his and he’ll kill him first before he lets him take it!  Hum doubts that killing him would be convenient for Sev:  he’d lose everything, including his freedom as he doesn’t think his death would go unpunished like that of Padre Sixto and who knows how many others!  Sev counters that he’s always done whatever the hell he wanted for years and he’s always gotten what he wants. Hum shouts at Sev:  “I’m tired of living under your shadow, do what you please, I’ll do what I please.  I’m not afraid of you!”   Sev growls for Hum to get out, pushing him several times!

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