Wednesday, November 06, 2019
El Dragón #27, 11/5/19: Locked up Twice, is there an Escape?
We begin
with Chisca’s arrest and getting her mugshots. She thinks she can just say she
is a Garza and get off easily. But she gets thrown in the slammer anyway
without a phone call. Her cellmate bullies her around and finally Chisca goes
to sit down.
Miguel
and Duarte are talking about Hector and discussing what to do about it. Miguel
says he can’t help him.
At the
Garza home, Dora and Rosario discuss dinner while the TV is on. Dora is
horrified as she witnesses Chisca’s arrest on the news. She calls Miguel who is
in the midst of talking to Duarte. Then he makes a deal with Duarte as Duarte “offers”
to just say the word and get her out. Miguel is stuck. He is now indebted to Duarte,
one favor for another.
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Tuesday, November 05, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 11 Lunes 11/4/19: My Cup Boileth Over
Secrets
and lies are a poisonous stew that left simmering too long will boil
over the top, leaving a gaseous pollution in the air. These are not
the stuff of wolves, who work together and love their cubs, but of
reptiles and venom. Reptiles do not care for their young and are
barely conscious of them; they act only in their own self-interest. –
D.D.
Luis
went to the meeting arranged over the phone and it was with Ámbar.
“So
you have evidence that Doña Catalina is a murderer? Why call me
instead of the police?” he asked.
“You
know who Catalina Creel is. It's a miracle that I'm alive. She
tried to kill me when I discovered that she and my husband were
lovers. I was kidnapped, taken to another house, put in the garage,
fed an overdose of tranquilizers, and thrown into a car trunk. I
don't know what would have happened to me if I hadn't managed to
escape.”
“Does
anyone in your family know about this?”
“No.
They are all convinced that I abandoned my husband. But she is only
concealing her crime. She thinks I'm dead, so that's why I asked you
to come.”
“I
don't understand why you called me; remember that I'm only a
journalist.”
“But
you interfered in what was happening. You were at the new line
celebration. You know they are criminals. You know about the
trafficking in illegal diamonds.”
“Because
at that moment I was in the middle of an investigation –”
He
stopped as Dora entered with coffee.
“Thank
you, Dora.” She turned back to Luis. “You can talk; I trust
her.”
Dora
looked at Luis, then excused herself and left them to talk.
“I
don't have more to say,” Luis said. “I had to abandon the case
because of my boss's lack of confidence and because I had no proof of
anything.”
“I
can help with evidence. Catalina and my husband think I'm an idiot,
an imbecile who knows nothing, but I know what I'm doing and how to
do it. You and I, if you help me, can do this so Catalia pays for
everything she's done.”
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El Dragón #26, 11/4/19: Two-Faced
Amigos:
This
one isn't up to my usual standard because I was really wiped out.
There are some gaps, so if you can ID what happened, please put it in
the comments. I will fix this for posterity later.
Miguel
once again told Howard that they had no real evidence against him.
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Monday, November 04, 2019
Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 4, 2019
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- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 82-84
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 4, 2019
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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 4, 2019
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Saturday, November 02, 2019
Cuna de Lobos Capítulo 10 Fri. 11/1/19 Catalina and the Law of Unintended Consequences--OR--An Heir and a Spare
Over drinks with Francisco, Catalina expresses her concern over the phone calls she has been receiving but insists she is not worried. Francisco thinks it is just someone who wants to frighten her. Putting him on the spot, she asks what he would he be willing to do for her. He asks what does she have in mind.
Back at Francisco's, Ambar is lingering in her bedroom as Dora tries to get her to leave because she knows that Francisco is on his way home. Ambar wants some of her clothes. Dora asks her not to take any because she doesn't want Francisco to think she is a thief. Ambar doesn't think he would ever notice as he cares nothing about her. Dora disagrees and urges her to leave. As Ambar barely moves, she and Dora hear Francisco arriving with Catalina. Out in the hall, Catalina wants to have sex but Francisco tries to get out of it saying it is just too soon (after Ambar disappearing). Catalina won't take "no" for an answer and soon she and Francisco are all over each other. Dora and Ambar have managed to sneak into the kitchen on the way out. Ambar grabs a knife as Dora tries to stop her. Catalina hears a noise from the kitchen. Francisco becomes curious and goes into the kitchen. He sees Dora with the knife in her hand. She excuses herself saying she dropped it as she was putting it away. She looks and sounds nervous as she explains that she was just doing some ironing. Francisco reminds her how late it is. She was just going . . . He gives her a half smile as she leaves but looks concerned. He tells Catalina that he is sure that Dora saw them. Catalina doesn't care what the servant thinks and they are back at it. Dora and Ambar are still in the house. Ambar starts to wail after seeing Francisco with Catalina. Dora covers her mouth to keep her quiet and leads her out of the house.
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El Dragón #25, 11/1/19: The Fall of Halcon and Toledo Tries to Hook a Big Fish
Good Friday my faithful friends. What an interesting week we have had here on El Dragon. Although Monday night’s episode was a little slow, they did not leave us there and the rest of the week was action packed.
Tonight’s episode picks up with Epig’s suv under fire. El Halcon has decided that his time is up and is trying to take him out. Last night’s bomb didn’t do the job, but it looks as if it is still not time for Epig to meet his maker as he is driving an armored car and the bullets are bouncing off. Epig, Tacho and Chano escape the “atentado.” I like that word in Spanish better than the equivalent English explanation of an attempt/or action of kill people in the street, it also means attack but again, the word fails to completely capture the idea. Although “hit” would probably do it if set in the right context.
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Friday, November 01, 2019
El Dragón #24, 10/31/19: Only Coal For His Stocking and Pig Gets A Mocking
Upon discovery, Miguel manages to find the colored wrapping for the efedrin packs (?) as he makes a run through the back and apparently places his brown ball cap on some other unsuspecting worker so that Tacho accuses him of screwing around and not listening. Mig secretly is able to contact Peligros and tell him to go buy a few things they'll need now.
Hector squirms his way out of having to seduce--or be seduced by--Juana. He pleads emotional difficulties (Well, whatever pays the rent, right?) and they agree to see each other again. In the meantime Juana shows him pictures of her and Natalie in her phone, one of which intrigues him. He takes her phone and sends copies of her pictures to himself while she is changing into something more stimulating--er relaxing. (A cocktail dress instead of negligee--thanks be to the telenovela gods.
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Thursday, October 31, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 9 Thus. 10/31/19
What follows is AnonFri's recap for this episode.
Alejandro has still not appeared. Jose Carlos starts to humor Catalina on what she will tell the press about the cancelled wedding. It would be a huge scandal. Catalina maintains her composure despite being a bit nervous.
Before leaving Catalina alone, Jose Carlos mentions that someone will be interrogated and she likely won’t pass and will end up saying that she was hired. (The murder he was framed for?) Catalina immediately calls Diego.
Leonora is throwing up in the bathroom. Alejandro asks if she’s ok. She says she is, but he’s not convinced. Leonora first asks him how his trip to Buenos Aires went. He said it went well, but that he needs to talk to her and doesn’t know where to begin. He tells her he wants her to understand him, in the time that he’s been gone he’s thought over somethings and was able to resolve many doubts and realize what he’s doing with her. Leonora lays out the pregnancy test before him. She tells him “This is what you’re doing to me: I’m pregnant.” This was her fourth test already.
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 28, 2019
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“Amor Eterno.” If some other brave soul(s)
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- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 80-81
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
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• 9-10PM—
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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 28, 2019
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El Dragón #23, 10/30/19: We Was Robbed!
Miguel gets the call from the head of El Salado's northern region (Z????) who's always got a phrase of English to show his roots. "We was robbed!! They stole our boats! Right from under our noses!!" (Time to get your 2nd head back behind the zipper.)
The two regional heads meet with Mig to complain and say it was his idea and if he can't put a stop to this kind of "in your face" theft of merchandise --then get out of our way, and we will! As far as the regional capos see it Mig had a crap plan and it failed. They already lost half their men in the big shoot out rescuing Dora, now this! Bullets is the only way to rid ourselves of this traitor! The two heads believe it was Epigmenio but Mig says they all could have been sold out by their own men. Mig promises he'll determine first if it was their own men or others who helped pull this off. He'll get it back. He's a man of his word.
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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 8 Wed. 10/30/19: Never Say Never--OR--Ámbar Returns
It is evening and Leonora is visited by a driver with a car. He gives her a card with a message: "I need to see you." She asks if Alejandro is okay. The driver's only response is that he is there to drive her. He suggests she put something else on because it is cold outside. She looks at the card and wonders what is going on.
Evidently Alejandro isn't waiting for her yet because he is clothed and drunk sitting on the floor of a shower getting soaked. Catalina appears, pulls him out and asks him what he is doing. He admits to being drunk and angry because he feels like he is being suffocated. Catalina thinks it is all because of Miguel. Alejandro doesn't agree. It is all about him and feeling that he is just another piece on her chess board. She tries to take his wet shirt off which just enrages him more. She cuts that off quickly with a slap across his face telling him to shut up and to get dressed.
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Wednesday, October 30, 2019
Discussion, 10/30/19: Fabrica de Sueños, Televisa's Failure?
The
excellent La Usurpadora and the much-anticipated Cuna
de Lobos were part of a Televisa initiative to present lavish
25-episode productions of past classics by the network. What
mystifies me is the reason behind some of these, as I have seen most
of them. The Wikipedia page listed the rest of them in this order:
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El Dragón #22, 10/29/19: More Treachery, More Murder
Hector
continues his conversation with Cuña and finds out from him that impunity
reigns and justice does not exist. He says, “The real mafiosos are the
politicians.”
Chisca
comes barging into Miguel’s office and Miriam tries to stop her. But Miguel
tells Miriam not to worry and allows her to leave the office. Chisca, however,
is throwing a temper tantrum with Miguel about her not being able to get a ride
to Cuidad Jimenez via Peligros. He tells her that he knows she is into drugs
and she needs rehab. She just gets angrier and tells him she is just as much a
boss as he is and that he fancies himself as some sort of Mexican James Bond,
with his Geishas and Samurais. She storms out.
Meanwhile,
in Cuidad Jimenez, Hector goes to see his politician friend. He tells his
friend he knows that Epigmenio is behind all this bloodshed. Hector wants to
verify if Carlos Duarte is behind Epigmenio Moncada, but his politician friend
starts getting hot under the collar and tells Hector to put a lid on it because
it’s such a great risk to him. He tells Hector, “Mr. Bernal, you are toying
with something very dangerous and it will always come out badly. I regret
telling you the truth. Now please leave.” He shows Hector the door and opens it
for him to leave.
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Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 7 Martes 10/29/19: Alibis
Alibis
are interesting things. Most people invent them when they are unable
– or unwilling – to keep a social commitment. Others need them
to cover lies. Smart criminals save the best ones for when they
kill.– D.D.
Catalina
and Diego were going over communication statuses of their suppliers
when Francisco entered her office. She closed her computer and asked
whether he had heard from Ámbar.
“No.
I just spoke to Vega; she's still ignoring me. What worries me is I
don't know if I have the right to insist she return my call. I don't
know.”
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Tuesday, October 29, 2019
El Dragón #21, 10/28/19: Show Me the Money
Miguel
had stripped off his shirt and was having some nooky with Jimena in
his glass office. Adela watched briefly through a glass door, then
walked away.
Dora
sat in the house and Peligros came back telling her that the job was
done. She was relieved. He missed being on a ranch; the city wasn't
really his thing. He said something about how Miguel really didn't
need protection but Dora said that even Miguel has weaknesses.
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Monday, October 28, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 6 Lunes 10/28/19: Pictures Tell Many Tales
They
say a picture is worth a thousand words. I've worked for magazines
and television long enough to know how much power they have. They
serve many purposes: They are plans, art, memories, flirtation
fodder, evidence, bait, and they can also be deadly weapons. In the
digital age they are even more powerful in all these capacities. Use
your camera wisely. – D.D.
Catalina
took Ámbar's cell phone out of the drawer and looked at the photos.
She saw the very photos that had been sent to Carlos the night she
murdered him and realized they had come from Ámbar. She flew into a
rage and swept everything off her vanity table with a vicious
scream.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 28, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. First
and foremost, my apologies for not posting a page on Thursday…there is no
excuse other than it just slipped on me…so sorry! AnonFri and Clara are
providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.” If some other brave soul(s) would like to
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- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 77-79
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 9-10PM—
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Cuna de Lobos Index
DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 28, 2019
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Saturday, October 26, 2019
El Dragón #20, 10/25/19: Provoking Pacheco, Peligros and Pigmenio
Good Friday my fellow Patio Patrons. Another end of week recap of El Dragon leaves up picking up the pieces of the Pachecos as well as Hector’s car.
Why Tacho called to give Hector warning, I am not sure, as El Pig was told by Duarte to take care of him. I can only guess that the only motive here is to not yet kill off the character. However, the impression this leaves on Hector will either make him much more affable to the friendship he has with Miguel, despite his ties to the dark side, or the opposite, make him hate everything that has to do with it. We will have to wait and see.
In Ciudad Jimenez there is a meeting between Miguel and Sandro (El Jefe de los Guachos) the other gang in the area. Sandro begins with saying that he heard what happened, and that they cannot permit that kind of activity in their area. Which is when Miguel suggests they come to an agreement to protect the area as well as the transport coming in and out. Sandro asks him what he is asking in return, Miguel tells him to name a price. Sandro tells him no price, but that he wants in on the business, he has heard around that Miguel Garza pays his partners very well and wants a piece of the pie. Miguel agrees, and they have a deal.
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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 5 Fri. 10/25/19: Ambar's One Way Ticket--OR--Catalina and the Cost of Leadership
We pick up with Catalina waking up in an empty bed the next morning. She finds Francisco trying to contact Ambar on his phone and suggests he go back home. Evidently Ambar is trying to get his attention since she wants him to feel guilty and is being successful. An irritated Francisco admits that he feels guilty and is worried Ambar might talk to his nephews. Even more he wonders how Catalina can be so cut and dried about it all.
As they leave Catalina's house, Alejandro wants to take Leonor to his jewelry business to show her around and return the ring. She wants to go to the Rodolfo Lazar lecture. He is a famous photographer and she wanted to meet him but now all of the tickets are sold out. Alejandro thinks that his mother with her influence could get her a meeting with Lazar. As they are talking, José Carlos comes out agitated looking for the car keys. Alejandro tells him they are where they always are: in the car and tells him he cannot drive in the state he is in. José Carlos gets in anyway. Leonor jumps in the passenger seat and tells him he does not have the right to put the lives of others at risk and that only he is the one who is responsible for the situation he is in and how to fix it. That gives José Carlos something to think about.
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Friday, October 25, 2019
El Dragón #19, 10/24/19: In Which The Payback's Not Worth The Playback & Hec Needs a New Car
Miguel looks up from the video screen. "--Where is Ricardo (Sr. Finances)?" They ordered me to kill him, he tells Mig and Peligros. Guajolote is the traitorous dog of a messenger who Peligros wants to kill. "--It was me or him." (Hmm. Now that's something Miguel can relate to, considering his little chat-spat with Adela earlier.) "--They killed the men. I am sorry, Patrón." "--Do my business partners know?" Nope. Ok. Mig nixes Peligros and pistola since Guajo is the only one who's been inside since the takeover and knows the layout. Leave him go." Peligros growls to Guajo that he may have escaped this but he's still going to be bait. (Viewerville ponders the possibilities.)
Ade wants to help somehow but Mig finally puts his foot down. Jime wonders what's happened. After Mig walks away Ade answers her that there's been killing and it isn't about to stop soon.
Mig walks outside on his way to his private plane; they're flying to CD Jimenez. The vagrant, aka, bum who sits by the building day after day takes mental notes and Guajo must give Mig the details. He calls Tacho and gives him the news.
Back at the ranch, Old Tati brings Dora a trago of tequila and secretly cuts the ties around her writsts. Los Pacheco are feasting after the bloodbath they've just finished. They get the word that Los Garza are on the way.
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Thursday, October 24, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 4 Thurs. 10/24/19
An Anonymous contributor has graciously provided the Thursday recap. Whoever it might be, we thank AnonFri for stepping up. How about a round of virtual applause, and may this contributor not stay Anonymous too long.
Alejandro visits Leonora’s humble home that evening. He informs her he also has his own apartment and that he really doesn’t always live with his family. He’s only there now because of his mother. It seems she asks him how he’s feeling about his father’s death, and he says well.
Gélica is giving Catalina a massage. When she lowers the nightgown strap Catalina pulls the sleeve of her cover back and ends the session.
Leonora tells Alejandro she’s never met anyone who’s been on top of an elephant. He hands her his phone to show proof (was he with Jose Carlos?) She asks about his brother. Did they ever try other forms of therapy for him? Alejandro receives a phone call and Leonora gets someone at the door. Luis shows up with a paper bag. Alejandro asks if everything was resolved regarding his job. He says yes, to thank Catalina for that. Alejandro lets Luis know he mostly helped him because of Leonora.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos, y más: Week of October 21, 2019
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
9-10PM -
El Final del Paraíso10-11PM -
El Señor de los Cielos10-11PM -
El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 21, 2019
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Ep. 35-36
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El Dragón #18, 10/23/19: Revancha de los Pacheco Or Pacheco Payback
In the countryside of CD Jimenez at Rancho de los Garza, while Dora and her head CEO/financial advisor are working on the monthly finances or reports for the trucking business, the Pacheco posse surround the place, cut off electricity and Internet for the ranch, and summarily murder all the guerrerros/security teams they come across. ( Man, these people Dora's got working for her are such losers it's a wonder Damberto managed to survive at the head of the syndicate as long as he did.)
Meanwhile, in CDMX, aka la DF, poor Jorge, the poor little lamb, is lost. He gets bullied, beaten and rolled by a gang of young thugs. His broken processor is also stolen. So, they get away with a phone and a hunk a junk with a few pesos thrown in.
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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 3 Wed. 10/23/19: "Monsters" --OR-- "Ay (EYE), There's The Rub"
And we continue with our twisted tale:
At Catalina's house, Gélica notices a spot of blood on Catalina's blouse. Catalina sees her staring at it and tells her that she stained it but doesn't remember how. She adds that Gélica is to throw it away because she will never be able to get the stain out. Gélica looks oddly upset as she leaves the room with the blouse in hand.
Luis is at his place (his home away from where his wife and child live) when he hears on TV that Vasco the forensic pathologist was found dead with a bullet wound to the head at the forensic facility where he worked. Luis springs into action and takes the folder from Vasco from its hiding place. Leonora is knocking at his door.
José Carlos is arrested still in his drugged stupor. The press is there to cover this event marked by alcohol, drugs and violence since he is the son of the famous businessman the late Carlos Larios.
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Wednesday, October 23, 2019
El Dragón #17, 10/22/19: One Benevolent Act; Will there be more Betrayal?
We begin
with Miguel and Peligros walking into this bar run by some cartel thugs, where
there seems to be forced prostitution going on. Pig and Tacho are watching from
the balcony. He is greeted by someone who says, “So you are the famous Japanese
person.” They sit down and ask Miguel how it is he does it, laundering the
money. They call out the “girls” who obviously look forced and don’t want to be
there. The “girls” are ordered to dance and one tells Miguel she is pregnant
and to help her get out of there.
Back at
the office, Jimena approaches Adela who is pouring herself a cup of coffee. “So
how was everything in Miami?” says Jimena. Adela says, “Work was good. But the
enjoyment was everything.” They sit down with their coffee and Jimena confesses
her doubts to Adela since Adela was not a professional race car driver and only
a chauffeur. Adela says the mission was a success, but Jimena says you don’t
need a doctorate to use an accelerator. Then Adela opens a packet of sugar and
sprinkles into Jimena’s coffee. “What are you doing?” says Jimena. “Just trying
to take away some of the bitterness in you.” Says Adela.
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Tuesday, October 22, 2019
Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 2 Martes 10/22/19: Achilles' Heel
Everyone
has their weaknesses, no matter who they are. The key to protecting
yourself is never to trust anyone to know them. High society – or
what passes for it these days – is just as much a minefield as the
corporate world or a war one. In our tale no one knew this better
than Catalina Creel. Yet eventually someone will know hers. Only
her arrogance protects her from knowing this. – D.D.
Catalina
returned to her office in the dark, the middle of the night. It was
the perfect atmosphere for her to review her thoughts. When one
kills for the first time, one is afraid. But when one learns to do
it precisely, afterwords one feels nothing.
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El Dragón #16, 10/21/19: Evasions
Miguel
and Adele continued to run down the bridge. Howard tried to follow
them in his car, calling the police as he did so. Miguel and Adele
ducked into a parking facility and took off in a car as soon as the
sirens started.
Vlad
of Novotech was being threatened with the end of his daughter's life.
Paula
told Vlad off in the belief that his product was inferior. She then
addressed a crowd and talked about the Grace prototype.
The
chase continued. Adele drove past Howard, waving to him rather than
flipping him the bird. That got his dander up.
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Monday, October 21, 2019
Cuna de Lobos Lunes 10/21/19 Gran Estreno: Augustus Falls
Romulus
and Remus were suckled by the same she-wolf. This was not true of
José Carlos and Alejandro Larios and not because they were not
twins. While they shared a father they had different mothers.
Gloria, the first wife of Carlos, was the mother of José Carlos who
accutely felt her loss having been rejected by his stepmother, a
one-time Circe named Catalina Creel.
It
has been some time since I've brought you tales of those who think
themselves gods or at the very least above all rules of society. They
see money less as evidence of status than as a means to any end they
seek. It is the one commodity that is universally understood as well
as desired. – D.D.
Late
one night in Acapulco Carlos Larios struggled in the water as his
wife, Catalina, radioed for help. “Help! Help! My husband fell
overboard.” She heard him break the surface and struggle to
breathe.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 21, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series.
AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about
“Amor Eterno.” If some other brave soul(s)
would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You
can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or
not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 72-76
Only
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 21, 2019
Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.
Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
9-10PM —
El Final del Paraíso10-11PM -
El Señor de los Cielos 710-11PM -
El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
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By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
Labels: selena, señor7, sin-senos4, telemundo
DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 21, 2019
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to pg. 1 for the week! Join us at our patio;
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Ep. 32-34
·
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Sunday, October 20, 2019
La Usurpadora - 1998 and 21 years later!
Hi LU Patio. On the heels of our recently concluded LU remake, I thought I’d do this post talking about the original LU and continue the discussion of some of the topics we touched on here throughout our whirlwind series!
Fun fact: La Usurpadora that aired in 1998 was one of the first novelas I watched. I lived outside of the United States back then and TNs were a rarity there, so this was one of my favorite ones for a long time. Graciously, my tastes have changed over the last couple of decades. Nonetheless it was such a great trip down the memory lane to remember the original LU over the past month with this great remake.
So without further ado, let’s take a look! Before we start though: A SPOILER WARNING. If you haven’t seen LU 1998, but are planning to watch it, this post will contain some plot spoilers, so maybe avoid it until you have a chance to catch up with the original.
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Saturday, October 19, 2019
El Dragon #15, 10/18/19: The Not So Amazing Race or Tired Tires
We left Chisca on the point of an overdose and Miguel looking at Adela, as if to question her loyalty, after finding the bugged pen at the end of last night's episode.
Today we start with Valentin trying to wake Chisca up. But rather than try to revive her when she is unresponsive, or take any emergency action, he gets dressed and bails! What a coward!! I can think of other more appropriate words, but not sure how G rated this needs to be. Jorge sees Valentin leave the pool house and finds Chisca unconscious and immediately tries to help. He calls Angel to come for Chisca. I am unsure why he calls Angel first and not just an ambulance.
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La Usurpadora - Capitulo 25 (Finale) - And then everyone lived happily ever after…except for all of those who didn’t.
Well all good things must come to an end, and what end it was – happy, sad, bewildering, at times beanie requiring, but fiery and original, much like the series. So let's get to it one last time.
Carlos starts out his day fending off the press, as he tries to get into his car. Pascual, who must get triple pay for all these extra shifts he is pulling lately, is right there to tell the press that no questions will be answered and to help Carlos get into the car. Carlos goes to the office and finishes the conversation with Gema, where they plan his resignation announcement. Gema is hurt that she is not the one he is choosing as a life partner, but wishes him well.
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Friday, October 18, 2019
El Dragón #14, 10/17/19: In The Nick Of Time...Or Not.....
Guajolote is waiting outside the hotel across the street as earlier planned, gun in hand, ready to shoot Date Rape Dude, aka Valentin, pass Go, and collect his 20, 000 pesos. However, just as he's about to do the deed he gets a look at Chisca looking worriedly in his direction. She maneuvers herself between Val and Guajo's gun. Guajo cannot shoot as she pushes Val into the lobby and has him take her to his room.
Somewhere along the line between dinner with his sister and Valentin, Miguel has managed a date with Jimena. He's giving her a lift home; she explains she's trying to seduce him and lays a sizzling long liplock on him. He smiles enigmatically and replies she's enticing, but he's not looking for love in his life ever again; they work with each other, and she is engaged to Cesar, right? Yep, but let her be the one to play dangerously..... She slithers out of the car and into her building.
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Thursday, October 17, 2019
La Usurpadora - Capitulo 24
Recap by Princess Juju
Here we go patio peeps! Penultimate Episode!!!
Arcadia overhears Piedad telling Carlos that the woman in the house is Paola not Paulina, she runs to tell Paola this and they both bolt out of the house. They leave the car behind and Arcadia complains about Carlos being a terrible President because he never fixed the streets in Mexico. They take a cab to their lair where they find one of Teresa's henchmen, who is there to take Manuel out of the country but he refuses to go without Paola. They offer triple the money to get all three out of Mexico but he refuses, especially because everyone knows who Paola is. In the end no one leaves and Arcadia calls Manuel an idiot for not leaving when he had the chance.
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 14, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series.
AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about
“Amor Eterno.” If some other brave soul(s)
would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You
can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or
not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 70-71
Only
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 14, 2019
TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):
• 9-10PM—
El Final del Paraíso**
• 10-11PM—
El Señor de los Cielos 7**
• 10-11PM—
El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)
**
El Señor de los Cielos returned this week for its 7th season. If you aren't familiar with this novela, or you'd just like to refresh your memory, you can find a brief synopsis of each of the previous 6 seasons on Wikipedia at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Se%C3%B1or_de_los_Cielos#Synopsis.
Telemundo's website offers a trailer of season 7.
Please note that both El Final del Paraíso and El Señor de los Cielos will be pre-empted on Thursday, October 17, by the Latin American Music Awards 2019.
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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 14, 2019
Good Day, Caraymates!
Welcome to pg. 2 for the week! Join us at our patio;
everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of
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·
2 PM - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor: Ep.
30-31
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El Dragón #13, 10/16/19: Plotting, Planning, and Protection Which Oft Times Gang Astray
Parte 1~~ with apologies to Robert Burns.....
At El Rancho, Dora turns the tables in this Mexican standoff as El Arizona doesn't figure the liddle lady 'll know how to shoot ner have the stomach for cold blooded murder. She sends a pot shot flying over the desk as a warning. "Oh no?? Next time I won't miss." Her two goons run in with their guns pointed at their so called guest's back. "And, you were saying you're going to pay what you owe me, right?"
Outside Miguel's city digs, Date Rape Dude and Chisca are taking a walk in the moonlight. "--This --I--must be a bit boring for you here." She kisses him and he responds in kind. "--So, did you come for me or for what I took from you?" "--I came for business--with my BFF Miguel. Where is he?" "--He keeps his own schedule. Anyway, you don't want him knowing I and you--er, you and I are a thing...er have had a fling...er...." DRD, aka Valentin, questions Chisca. "--Oh, are we an item or what? Naw, I wouldn't dare to let him know till I have his permission." He kisses her again, with only the inevitable Mexican moon to witness. They hear the car pull up.
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La Usurpadora - Capitulo 23 - Alas, in this town murder is a form of entertainment...
Oh so much has happened today and sadly we will all be sad by the end of this recap.
So Montse, having blown Paola’s cover, runs out and tries to call Nava, who doesn’t pick up. She leaves him a message, asking to call her back and is very distressed.
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Wednesday, October 16, 2019
Bienvenidos, amigos, a la Cuna de Lobos, a tale of the rich and shameless.
This
is the long-awaited retelling of the 1986 classic. The players:
Paz
Vega as Catalina Creel: The second wife of Carlos Larios and the
mother of his younger son. Ambitious and Machievellian, she will do
anything to maintain control over the family business, assets, and
the family itself. They say a snake bit her once... and died.
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La Usurpadora - Capitulo 22 - The land that laws of physics have abandoned
It’s four episodes from the end and we can tell by the supersonic speed we are moving at! So the writers tried to do something clever today and keep us guessing through the whole episode, but since we are smarter than that and saw right through the trick, we’ll just work their mystery reveals in a bit earlier.
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El Dragón #12, 10/15/19: Bait and Switch
Miguel
escaped the shootout by channeling his inner Bruce Lee.
Meanwhile,
in Spain, Chisca sent her topless photo to Valentin to lure him into
recovering the stolen necklace. He called just as she was bragging
to her friend; he agreed to meet her.
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Tuesday, October 15, 2019
El Dragón #11, 10/14/19: Lies, Trickery, Theft, and Murder
We open
with Miguel getting shot by a dart and falling to the ground in Columbia. Three
masked men pick up and carry him off.
Hector
and Claudia go through the contents of Natalia’s locker. They find variouss
things, a USB flash drive and a passport with her picture and another name. They
wonder what someone who was a secretary was doing with a false passport. They decide
that there is only run reason, she had the false identity so she could run
away. As they leave, Hector says to Claudia, “Let’s go my love.”
In
Madrid, Chisca and Valentín are drinking in a bar. Chisca says, “Well it’s too
bad that you are separated from your wife.” But Valentín says, “I don’t think
so. It’s something to celebrate and toast to.” They talk some more and Chisca
says she is not the little girl he once knew. He agrees that it’s been many
years. She tells him that it was him that opened her eyes to the world. She
mentions how glad she is that he was her first, but then is recalling how he
raped her. He says that time was one of the best experiences of his life. [What a sicko.] They order more thinks and toast to
the past and the present.
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La Usurpadora - Capitulo 21 - What you won't do for love...or revenge.
Paulina and Carlos continue their conversation. He wants her to know that what he feels is real, but Paulina is very confused. She admits that she can’t say that she has no feelings for him, but also doesn’t know if she has feelings for Facundo. What she does know is that her mom asked her to forgive Paola, and she can’t let Facundo put her in jail. There must be other ways to help Paola, says Paulina. (Not sure help is where they are going with the incarceration, dear…) Carlos seems on board with the plan of leniency, if possible.
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Monday, October 14, 2019
Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 14, 2019
Greetings, Caraymates!
Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series.
AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about
“Amor Eterno.” If some other brave soul(s)
would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You
can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or
not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
- 7-8PM - Amor
Eterno: Ep. 67-69
Only
one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need
to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in
the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
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