Monday, November 18, 2019

DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 18, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, Andycaps, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 52-54
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 25-27

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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Sunday, November 17, 2019

A SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT FROM COUNTxALACRÁN TO CARAY, CARAY! VISITORS

WHO IS THIS LOVELY LADY???  DO YOU RECOGNIZE HER???


She is none other than Bernarda Saenz, viuda de Guillen (Jacqueline Andere) from La Otra (2002), one of most evil, disturbing villains ever. She is the epitome of the toxic mother. Her selfishness drives the oppressive manner she treats her daughters in order to satisfy her own desires.

Greetings Caray, Caray! visitors--

Some of you may know me already. For those that don’t, let me introduce myself. My nom de plume was CountxAlacrán. During 2015-2016 I was a recapper on several telenovelas, including Yo No Creo En Los Hombres, Yago and Que Te Perdone Dios. I posted comments regularly. Shortly after YNCELH, I left the recapping teams due to personal obligations.
The reason for this post is to announce my intention to create a website where my own recaps of Spanish telenovelas and possibly other shows, not available elsewhere, such as La Otra, can be ordered and purchased for a fair price.  I hold a B1 certificate in English, so translating from Spanish to English will be my primary focus.
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Thursday, November 14, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 11, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 90 (Friday)
Note: All Primetime TNs will be pre-empted by “Latin Grammy Awards” on Thursday, Nov. 14th. On Friday, TNs (starting at 8PM) will be preempted by Fútbol CONCACEF. 
      
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 11, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

•   9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 11, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 50-51
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 24
Note: Hijas will be pre-empted by “Latin Grammy Extra” on Friday, Nov. 15th.

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragon #33, 11/13/19: Moving Out, Moving On



Good Evening my Patio Peeps, I know, I am here a few days early this week, but due to some changes in this weeks schedules ( we all have lives), I am taking over this Wednesday night recap, and glad to actually. Usually, I wait until I am ready to recap to watch my episode, but I was so curious about what was going to happen last week that I went ahead and have already seen this one. So I am excited. It was good all around. More sentimental than some of you like, but just right for others. So let’s go!

At the beginning of the episode we get a brief replay of everything that happened in regards to Adela’s interview with the magazine Nosotros. The instructions given by Miguel, the interview itself, and the fall out upon publication, when Miguel freaks out on Adela over the amount of information she allegedly divulged in the interview. We pick up with the breakfast where he tells her that he would have expected betrayal from anyone except her. And of course Adela is in complete disbelief because viewerville knows that Adela did not in fact give up any information that she shouldn’t have, and that Jimena was the mastermind behind the entire thing. Adela denies that she opened her mouth. She tells Miguel straight out, “if I am telling you I didn’t say anything, it’s because I didn’t say anything.” Miguel, very sanctimoniously begins reading from the article.
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Cuna de lobos, Capítulo 18 Wed. 11/13/19: Two Hits and a Miss--OR--Skulking with Alvaro

As Alejandro looks up from kissing Miguel, he catches sight of a horrified Leonora who is exiting as fast as she can. He goes after her and apologizes saying he didn't want her to find out like this. She tells him she heard everything that he and Miguel said to each other. She doesn't want to hear anymore. She runs away screaming for him to stay away from her.  Alejandro is visibly upset. Leonora sobs and screams at herself for being an idiot as she sits in her car. As she manages to drive away, Alvaro steps out of the shadows.

Ambar is talking to Francisco the best she can. She says she told him it was true.  He answers saying that Catalina admitted to it all. Francisco asks her to forgive him and adds that he should have believed her.  He informs her that Alejandro left in a desperate state and is rightfully angry. She adds that Alejandro had to know and to give  some time. Francisco isn't sure he can forgive himself. Ambar dissolves in tears and tells him he always refused to believe her. With tears in his own eyes, Francisco assumes the blame for Ambar's current condition because everything she said was true. Ambar tells him that Catalina is a . . . Francisco finishes the sentence with "murderer."
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Wednesday, November 13, 2019

El Dragón #32, 11/12/19: Underhanded Deceptions!


Hector continues to make a scene Duarte’s office, accusing Duarte of using Natalia as his lover. Arturo and his wife are mortified, crying out that it is not true. He is finally thrown out of Duarte’s office. Arturo takes his wife out who is in tears now. Duarte gets on the phone to report Hector’s behavior. The guards throw Hector down the front steps. Arturo confronts him and socks him in the face, telling him never to return to his foundation and to have nothing more to do with his family. A female photographer is taking pictures of everything.

After Mig gets through with Angel, Angel sits up and tells him that if it weren’t for him, that Chisca would be dead, “didn’t Jorge tell you?” Miguel turns to listen but says, “Don’t ever come back and see Chisca again.”

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Tuesday, November 12, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 17 Martes 11/12/19: The Time Bomb of Truth


Nobody in the world tells the truth all the time; life would be intolerable. However, too many lies told too long are time bombs waiting to explode. Nobody even thinks about the fallout until it's too late. – D.D.

Catalina removed the plastic bag and said “We still have much to talk about.” She sat down. “What did you tell José Carlos? What information did you give him?”
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El Dragón #31, 11/11/19: Sex, Lies, Corruption, and Viral Video



Miguel and Adela kissed while Jimena looked dagger eyes at her. Miguel tried to tell Adela that he was not a romantic option for her despite this “Because I can't make you happy”. He walked away from her. [Coward!]

Hector's wife, Ana, caught him in the act with Claudia and she lost it. He made excuses. He held onto her until Claudia was able to make a safe exit, feeling insulted at the excuses he made and telling Ana he loved her. Ana then walked out on him. [Both of them should kick his skanky ass at this point.]
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Monday, November 11, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 16 Lunes 11/11/19: Confrontations


Confrontations are sometimes best avoided. Unfortunately, they also tend to be inconvenient, and with unpredictable outcomes.. – D.D.

José Carlos walked out of the delivery room and removed his gloves. He was greeted in her usual insulting manner by Catalina, who said, “You are too weak. You have nothing to do with anything here.”
You should be thinking about Leonora,” he replied.
Leonora is Alejandro's wife.”
Yes, and where is your son?”
You are pathetic. You really want Leonora. Or are you doing this just to annoy us?”
Do you really think I'm doing this in order to win the inheritance? The reason I'm staying close to her her is to protect her from you.”
Now I understand it all. Leonora is the motive for your rehabilitation.”
Yes,” he said, looking her straight in the eye. “You know what else? I am in love with her.”
Oh. There's nothing more ridiculous that to be in love with your brother's wife.”
One day, when Alejandro abandons her – and that will happen – I will be there by her and for her and neither you nor anyone else can stop me.”
That's if your adored one continues to survive.”
He glared at her as Francisco arrived and stood behind her. He was shocked at José Carlos' expression. He then looked at Catalina as she walked away.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 11, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 87-89
Note: All Primetime TNs will be pre-empted by “Latin Grammy Awards” on Thursday, Nov. 14th.

Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 11, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 11, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 of our afternoon delights! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 47-49
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 21-23  
Note: Hijas will be pre-empted by “Latin Grammy Extra” on Friday, Nov. 15th.

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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Saturday, November 09, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 15 Fri. 11/8/19: Time Jump

Diego continues his sexual assault on Catalina at the abandoned warehouse. The scene changes and she is face down,  still clothed, on a mattress with her hands tied behind her back.  Diego lies on top  of her also clothed and tells her how beautiful she  how good she smells.  She tells him he will pay for this. He says it will  be a hard thing to do from a jail cell because he plans to destroy her just as she did him.  Diego calls José Carlos, still in Sierra Leone, to let him know that they have some things in common that they need to talk about. He wants to take some information to the authorities. José Carlos suggests he goes ahead and  talks to the police unless it has to do with his attack on his aunt or diamond trafficking.  Diego informs José Carlos that the diamond trafficking has been going n for years now. José Carlos is well aware of that as well as Diego's contacts.  Diego adds that he should know that his stepmother is the leader of the gang.  José Carlos asks why is Diego telling him all of this.  Diego really doesn't know but tells him to come to a judgment and to take the appropriate action. He hangs up and approaches Catalina with a gun in his hand.  She has two choices, as he sees it, one is to turn herself in to the authorities and the other . . . he makes sure she sees the gun.  As she tells him to kill her calling him a disgusting pig,  he throws her on her back and points the gun at her face. She tells him to shoot her but he can't.  Frustrated with himself, he swears and puts the gun down.
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El Dragón #30, 11/8/19: Buying Elections and Playing House


Back to our regular scheduled programming faithful friends. Friday night is here, let’s see how where our writers leave us tonight.

Angel overhears Chisca telling Valentin that she misses him, and all that jazz. Valentin gives her lame excuses about why he hasn’t called, the divorce is complicated, his wife’s lawyers can’t find out about his relationship with her. They talk sweet to each other, and all while Angel is listening and you can tell that he is upset by the whole thing. Valentin brings the conversation around to Miguel and tells Chisca that she should find out what Miguel is up to so that he can help her out by talking to Miguel for her. She is so stupid over him that she doesn’t even realize that all he is doing is pumping her for information and that it doesn’t suit him in the slightest that she is on the outs with her brother. Angel kicks an errant beer bottle and Chisca hears. She is using the excuse of Adri and Valentin buys it. Angel sneaks back upstairs. How many times does Valentin need to bring up Miguel for Chisca to get a clue. Good thing she was completely out of the picture with this last mission, but I worry she is going to get more info from Jimena than Miguel. Angel is destroyed by everything he just heard. I wonder if he is smart enough to put two and two together, or if anger and his broken heart are going to hinder his brain cells from functioning.
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Friday, November 08, 2019

El Dragon #29, 11/7/19: Dead Man Walking or Chisca, Too Much Chisca


Nice to see you all a day early this week. I am taking care of Thursday and Friday recaps this week, so as you know, buckle in for a looooong ride. No really, trying to keep it a little shorter tonight as I have to work early tomorrow. But if you have any questions about a scene, or dialogue that I didn’t cover, put it in the comments, I can always go back for more details. So lets jump in.

Last night we ended with Adela picking up the file that Miggy had on his desk with the background check he did on good ole Victor. Now we can all agree, I think based on all of your feedback that this was very warranted. But also, as we all assumed, once Adela found out, she was pissed. I mean, good thing he came back clean and all (although, in my opinion, the jury is still out). I do like the way she reacted however, telling Miguel that not everyone who gets close to her, is doing it to get to him, and that he isn’t the center of the universe. She ends by asking “Who are you Miguel?” Good question, one I think those of us on the patio have been trying to figure out as well. He isn’t 100% hero, nor 100% villain, yet in his stoicism we see very little of who he truly is, except a he-ho. Adela stumbles on a truth that Miguel won’t admit, she asks if he is jealous. And I think that Migs was looking for any reason really, to look into her guy. And at that point, Adela lets loose. She tells him that he is with as many women as she likes but he has a problem with her seeing someone. He says of course not, she can be with whomever she pleases. In fact, he would like to meet Victor. The best part of the scene though, isn’t even the words, its the looks that Miguel gives, he doesn’t like being told anything. And it look like Victor is coming to dinner… not really, he just says they should meet.

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Thursday, November 07, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 14 Thurs. 11/7/19: Diego Will Be Back

Below is AnonFri's recap for Thursday's episode.

Diego prepares to leave but Catalina appears, holding a gun to his head. She tells him that his mistakes have been costly to her. He tells her that her biggest mistake was actually underestimating him. They struggle for the gun and it goes off but neither of them were hit. Diego wins, throwing Catalina breathless on the couch.

Francisco heads into the building to see Diego. He yells out Catalina’s name from the street. Catalina tells Diego she had the opportunity to kill him but didn’t, so they’re both even now. Diego hits Catalina in the head with the gun and heads out through a backdoor while Francisco forces open the front door and finds Catalina hurt on the floor. Diego drives off in his navy car.
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 85-86
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 4, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM -   El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos 7
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. 
Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 for the first week in November! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 45-46
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 19-20

Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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El Dragón #28, 11/6/19: A Happy Pill in Everyone’s Future

We start out with a slight rewind of Hans and Jimena’s arrival at the Pritken lab gates for what he hopes will be a little private comfy time.

When Trejo and Peligro, posing as the lab guards aren’t quick enough at the gate, Hans gets out to harangue them. He wants to know who they are. Trejo explains he’s subbing for the regular guard. Hans wants to know his name—Trejo answers Ricardo Aceituna (Rick Olive). Hansie demands this imbecile with the funny name open up the damned gates. By this time Trejo can’t delay any longer and complies. Our intruders are still inside, Mig trying to hurry up Flaco since there are only two minutes left. Done and done. They exit the restricted lab as we watch the timer go down from 5-4-3-2-1 seconds, to .... whew, they make it past the laser just as it turns from green to red.
 
However, they aren’t  safe yet. They still have to get out of the building. Trejo communicates the news that Jimie and Hansie are now in the building.  Mig puts on some night vision goggles and gets into a cabinet. It turns out to be the shafts of the HVAC system. He orders Flaco back to the car.
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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 13 Wed. 11/6/19: Unruly Loose Ends

Catalina is meeting with Diego in her office. She has noticed he has seemed stressed lately and things and he is losing control.  As he protests to the contrary, Catalina reminds him about Ambar and then Luis's accident that almost cost her the life of her daughter in law grandchild.  He is just not cutting it and now there is  the situation with Sabrina. Catalina feels that he needs to go on vacation. He wants to know if he is being removed from the business  because he feels that he has been loyal in spite of knowing what he does. Catalina takes that as the second time he has threatened her.  He disagrees insisting he isn't that stupid.  Visibly upset, he wants to know what he can do to make things right again.  She gives him a task. Luis the reporter was snooping around yesterday.  She wants him to make sure that Luis understands he isn't to come around her or her family again. She still is offering the "vacation."   A knock on the door ends the conversation. It is Leonora who has come to get her for a photo shoot.
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Wednesday, November 06, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 12 Martes 11/5/19: Sabrina Full of Grace


Lies and long-term deceptions are the poisons of life. It doesn't matter whether people are rich or poor as long as they are honest with themselves as well as others. No monster ever wants to know that is what they are and many are not born to this, but become so because of what they do to others. Too many of them do not see this happening. – D.D.
Ámbar fired several times, aiming just a half meter beyond Catalina's left shoulder. Catalina – as cold-blooded as ever – barely flinched.
No, no,” said Francisco.
Tell me the truth,” Ámbar said. “Tell me.”
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El Dragón #27, 11/5/19: Locked up Twice, is there an Escape?


We begin with Chisca’s arrest and getting her mugshots. She thinks she can just say she is a Garza and get off easily. But she gets thrown in the slammer anyway without a phone call. Her cellmate bullies her around and finally Chisca goes to sit down.

Miguel and Duarte are talking about Hector and discussing what to do about it. Miguel says he can’t help him.

At the Garza home, Dora and Rosario discuss dinner while the TV is on. Dora is horrified as she witnesses Chisca’s arrest on the news. She calls Miguel who is in the midst of talking to Duarte. Then he makes a deal with Duarte as Duarte “offers” to just say the word and get her out. Miguel is stuck. He is now indebted to Duarte, one favor for another.

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Tuesday, November 05, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 11 Lunes 11/4/19: My Cup Boileth Over


Secrets and lies are a poisonous stew that left simmering too long will boil over the top, leaving a gaseous pollution in the air. These are not the stuff of wolves, who work together and love their cubs, but of reptiles and venom. Reptiles do not care for their young and are barely conscious of them; they act only in their own self-interest. – D.D.

Luis went to the meeting arranged over the phone and it was with Ámbar.
So you have evidence that Doña Catalina is a murderer? Why call me instead of the police?” he asked.
You know who Catalina Creel is. It's a miracle that I'm alive. She tried to kill me when I discovered that she and my husband were lovers. I was kidnapped, taken to another house, put in the garage, fed an overdose of tranquilizers, and thrown into a car trunk. I don't know what would have happened to me if I hadn't managed to escape.”
Does anyone in your family know about this?”
No. They are all convinced that I abandoned my husband. But she is only concealing her crime. She thinks I'm dead, so that's why I asked you to come.”
I don't understand why you called me; remember that I'm only a journalist.”
But you interfered in what was happening. You were at the new line celebration. You know they are criminals. You know about the trafficking in illegal diamonds.”
Because at that moment I was in the middle of an investigation –”
He stopped as Dora entered with coffee.
Thank you, Dora.” She turned back to Luis. “You can talk; I trust her.”
Dora looked at Luis, then excused herself and left them to talk.
I don't have more to say,” Luis said. “I had to abandon the case because of my boss's lack of confidence and because I had no proof of anything.”
I can help with evidence. Catalina and my husband think I'm an idiot, an imbecile who knows nothing, but I know what I'm doing and how to do it. You and I, if you help me, can do this so Catalia pays for everything she's done.”
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El Dragón #26, 11/4/19: Two-Faced




Amigos:

This one isn't up to my usual standard because I was really wiped out. There are some gaps, so if you can ID what happened, please put it in the comments. I will fix this for posterity later.

Miguel once again told Howard that they had no real evidence against him.
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Monday, November 04, 2019

Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are doing an outstanding job of  providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 82-84
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of November 4, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM  -  El Final del Paraíso
10-11PM - El Señor de los Cielos
10-11PM - El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Nov. 4, 2019

Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 for the first full week in November! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thoughts. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 42-44
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 16-18

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Saturday, November 02, 2019

Cuna de Lobos Capítulo 10 Fri. 11/1/19 Catalina and the Law of Unintended Consequences--OR--An Heir and a Spare

Over drinks with Francisco, Catalina expresses her concern over the phone calls she has been receiving but insists she is not worried.  Francisco thinks it is just someone who wants to frighten her.  Putting him on the spot, she asks what he would he be willing to do for her. He asks what does she have in mind.

Back at Francisco's, Ambar is lingering in her bedroom as Dora tries to get her to leave because she knows that Francisco is on his way home. Ambar wants some of her clothes. Dora asks her not to take any because she doesn't want Francisco to think she is a thief. Ambar doesn't think he would ever notice as he cares nothing about her. Dora disagrees and urges her to leave. As Ambar barely moves, she and Dora hear Francisco arriving with Catalina.  Out in the hall, Catalina wants to have sex but Francisco tries to get out of it saying it is just too soon (after Ambar disappearing). Catalina won't take "no" for an answer and soon she and Francisco are all over each other.  Dora and Ambar have managed to sneak into the kitchen on the way out.  Ambar grabs a knife as Dora tries to stop her.  Catalina hears a noise from the kitchen. Francisco becomes curious and goes into  the kitchen.  He sees Dora with the knife in her hand. She excuses herself saying she dropped it as she was putting it away. She looks and sounds nervous as she explains that she was just doing some ironing. Francisco reminds her how late it is.  She was just going . . . He gives her a half smile as she leaves but looks concerned.  He tells Catalina that he is sure that Dora saw them. Catalina doesn't care what the servant thinks and they are back at it. Dora and Ambar are still in the house. Ambar starts to wail after seeing Francisco with Catalina. Dora covers her mouth to keep her quiet and leads her out of the house.
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El Dragón #25, 11/1/19: The Fall of Halcon and Toledo Tries to Hook a Big Fish


Good Friday my faithful friends. What an interesting week we have had here on El Dragon. Although Monday night’s episode was a little slow, they did not leave us there and the rest of the week was action packed. 

Tonight’s episode picks up with Epig’s suv under fire. El Halcon has decided that his time is up and is trying to take him out. Last night’s bomb didn’t do the job, but it looks as if it is still not time for Epig to meet his maker as he is driving an armored car and the bullets are bouncing off. Epig, Tacho and Chano escape the “atentado.” I like that word in Spanish better than the equivalent English explanation of an attempt/or action of kill people in the street, it also means attack but again, the word fails to completely capture the idea. Although “hit” would probably do it if set in the right context. 

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Friday, November 01, 2019

El Dragón #24, 10/31/19: Only Coal For His Stocking and Pig Gets A Mocking


Upon discovery, Miguel manages to find the colored wrapping for the efedrin packs (?) as he makes a run through the back and apparently places his brown ball cap on some other unsuspecting worker so that Tacho accuses him of screwing around and not listening.  Mig secretly is able to contact Peligros and tell him to go buy a few things they'll need now.

Hector squirms his way out of having to seduce--or be seduced by--Juana.  He pleads emotional difficulties (Well, whatever pays the rent, right?) and they agree to see each other again.  In the meantime Juana shows him pictures of her and Natalie in her phone, one of which intrigues him.  He takes her phone and sends copies of her pictures to himself while she is changing into something more stimulating--er relaxing.  (A cocktail dress instead of negligee--thanks be to the telenovela gods.

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Thursday, October 31, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 9 Thus. 10/31/19

What follows is AnonFri's recap for this episode.

Alejandro has still not appeared. Jose Carlos starts to humor Catalina on what she will tell the press about the cancelled wedding. It would be a huge scandal. Catalina maintains her composure despite being a bit nervous.

Before leaving Catalina alone, Jose Carlos mentions that someone will be interrogated and she likely won’t pass and will end up saying that she was hired. (The murder he was framed for?) Catalina immediately calls Diego.

Leonora is throwing up in the bathroom. Alejandro asks if she’s ok. She says she is, but he’s not convinced. Leonora first asks him how his trip to Buenos Aires went. He said it went well, but that he needs to talk to her and doesn’t know where to begin. He tells her he wants her to understand him, in the time that he’s been gone he’s thought over somethings and was able to resolve many doubts and realize what he’s doing with her. Leonora lays out the pregnancy test before him. She tells him “This is what you’re doing to me: I’m pregnant.” This was her fourth test already.
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Primetime on Univisión (#2): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series. AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 80-81
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

•   9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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DAYTIME TNs (#2): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 2 for the week! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 40-41
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 14-15

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El Dragón #23, 10/30/19: We Was Robbed!


 Miguel gets the call from the head of El Salado's northern region (Z????) who's always got a phrase of English to show his roots.  "We was robbed!!  They stole our boats!  Right from under our noses!!" (Time to get your 2nd head back behind the zipper.)

The two regional heads meet with Mig to complain and say it was his idea and if he can't put a stop to this kind of "in your face" theft of merchandise --then get out of our way, and we will!   As far as the regional capos see it Mig had a crap plan and it failed.  They already lost half their men in the big shoot out rescuing Dora, now this!  Bullets is the only way to rid ourselves of this traitor!  The two heads believe it was Epigmenio but Mig says they all could have been sold out by their own men.  Mig promises he'll determine first if it was their own men or others who helped pull this off.  He'll get it back.  He's a man of his word.

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Cuna de Lobos, Capítulo 8 Wed. 10/30/19: Never Say Never--OR--Ámbar Returns

It is evening and Leonora is visited by a driver with a car. He gives her a card with a message: "I need to see you."  She asks if Alejandro is okay. The driver's only response is that he is there to drive her. He suggests she put something else on because it is cold outside.  She looks at the card and wonders what is going on.

Evidently Alejandro isn't waiting for her yet because he is  clothed and  drunk sitting on the floor of a shower getting soaked.  Catalina  appears, pulls him out and asks him what he is doing.  He admits to being drunk and angry because he feels like he is being suffocated.  Catalina thinks it is all because of Miguel.  Alejandro doesn't agree.  It is all about him and feeling that he is just another piece on her chess board.  She tries to take his wet shirt off which just enrages him more. She cuts that off quickly with a slap across his face telling him to shut up and to get dressed.
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Wednesday, October 30, 2019

Discussion, 10/30/19: Fabrica de Sueños, Televisa's Failure?



The excellent La Usurpadora and the much-anticipated Cuna de Lobos were part of a Televisa initiative to present lavish 25-episode productions of past classics by the network. What mystifies me is the reason behind some of these, as I have seen most of them. The Wikipedia page listed the rest of them in this order:
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El Dragón #22, 10/29/19: More Treachery, More Murder


Hector continues his conversation with Cuña and finds out from him that impunity reigns and justice does not exist. He says, “The real mafiosos are the politicians.”

Chisca comes barging into Miguel’s office and Miriam tries to stop her. But Miguel tells Miriam not to worry and allows her to leave the office. Chisca, however, is throwing a temper tantrum with Miguel about her not being able to get a ride to Cuidad Jimenez via Peligros. He tells her that he knows she is into drugs and she needs rehab. She just gets angrier and tells him she is just as much a boss as he is and that he fancies himself as some sort of Mexican James Bond, with his Geishas and Samurais. She storms out.

Meanwhile, in Cuidad Jimenez, Hector goes to see his politician friend. He tells his friend he knows that Epigmenio is behind all this bloodshed. Hector wants to verify if Carlos Duarte is behind Epigmenio Moncada, but his politician friend starts getting hot under the collar and tells Hector to put a lid on it because it’s such a great risk to him. He tells Hector, “Mr. Bernal, you are toying with something very dangerous and it will always come out badly. I regret telling you the truth. Now please leave.” He shows Hector the door and opens it for him to leave.

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Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 7 Martes 10/29/19: Alibis



Alibis are interesting things. Most people invent them when they are unable – or unwilling – to keep a social commitment. Others need them to cover lies. Smart criminals save the best ones for when they kill.– D.D.
Catalina and Diego were going over communication statuses of their suppliers when Francisco entered her office. She closed her computer and asked whether he had heard from Ámbar.
No. I just spoke to Vega; she's still ignoring me. What worries me is I don't know if I have the right to insist she return my call. I don't know.”
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Tuesday, October 29, 2019

El Dragón #21, 10/28/19: Show Me the Money



Miguel had stripped off his shirt and was having some nooky with Jimena in his glass office. Adela watched briefly through a glass door, then walked away.

Dora sat in the house and Peligros came back telling her that the job was done. She was relieved. He missed being on a ranch; the city wasn't really his thing. He said something about how Miguel really didn't need protection but Dora said that even Miguel has weaknesses.
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Monday, October 28, 2019

Cuna de Lobos, Capitulo 6 Lunes 10/28/19: Pictures Tell Many Tales


They say a picture is worth a thousand words. I've worked for magazines and television long enough to know how much power they have. They serve many purposes: They are plans, art, memories, flirtation fodder, evidence, bait, and they can also be deadly weapons. In the digital age they are even more powerful in all these capacities. Use your camera wisely. – D.D.

Catalina took Ámbar's cell phone out of the drawer and looked at the photos. She saw the very photos that had been sent to Carlos the night she murdered him and realized they had come from Ámbar. She flew into a rage and swept everything off her vanity table with a vicious scream.
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Primetime on Univisión (#1): Amor Eterno - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Greetings, Caraymates!


Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series. First and foremost, my apologies for not posting a page on Thursday…there is no excuse other than it just slipped on me…so sorry! AnonFri and Clara are providing some very appreciated recaps/details about “Amor Eterno.”  If some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute some highlights or a mini-recap for AE, I’m sure it would be appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TN covered by this page is:
  • 7-8PM   - Amor Eterno: Ep. 77-79
Only one TN is being covered by this page for now. Although there is really no need to identify it in your comment, you may continue to do so to avoid confusion in the future. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Amor”)

Discussion pages will be posted on Mondays and Thursdays at 9PM.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): El Final del Paraíso, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of October 28, 2019

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM—El Final del Paraíso
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7
• 10-11PM—El Secreto de Selena (Sundays only)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Cuna de Lobos Index

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DAYTIME TNs (#1): Y Mañana Será Otro Día, Hijas de la Luna… y Mas - Week of Oct. 28, 2019


Good Day, Caraymates!

Welcome to pg. 1 for the week! Join us at our patio; everyone is welcome to provide highlights, summaries, or details of scenes/episodes…we enjoy discussing the different perspectives and thought s. Questions about specific scenes or dialogues are also very welcome; someone is sure to respond and explain to ensure that you can enjoy the TN(s).

·         2 PM   - Y Mañana Sera Otro Día…Mejor:  Ep. 37-39
·         3 PM   - Hijas de la Luna…Y La Familia Cambio:  Ep. 11-13 Starring Luscious Lips Dan


Any daytime novela can be discussed and everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Friendly reminder to PLEASE put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for. (You can shorten the title to one word, i.e., “Mañana”)
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