Thursday, February 15, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #23 2.15.18: If Two Snakes Kiss, Do They Poison Each Other?

Or Fabian Shows Us What He is (Truly) Made of

Mauricio tells Renee that he knows she doesn’t like Kika. In fact, he could say she’s jealous. He runs out as Renee huffs and looks at Anifer, who shrugs.

At home, Veronica asks Tono to please clean the house a little for their guests. Tono nods but wonders who is going to cook. He suggests they order take out and Veronica finally agrees as Tono doesn’t know how to cook well. Veronica then asks him to please behave, so her boss sees how close their family is, but the dinner doesn’t guarantee that he will be hired. Tono understands and offers to tell his best jokes to see if her boss lightens up. Veronica laughs and nods.

The next day, Mauricio tells Fabian that Kika is beautiful, sexy, and even gets along with Anifer. Fabian asks if he trusts her, and all she says, and Mauricio is sure she is the persons she says she is. Fabian is still unsure, as it seems Mauricio likes Kika for other things, and not business, but Mauricio takes the hint and assures Fabian that he will separate business from pleasure.

At the hospital, Baldo demands to know why Jorge is still there when the doctor comes and announces that Yuriria has woken from the coma and wants to talk to her children. Jorge hopes this shows them the power of prayer but Baldo scruffs and walks away with Lili.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Feb 12, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

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• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en Alquiler
• 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
• 12:30-1PM—News
• 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego

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Caer en Tentacion #90/91, 2/14/18: Love and Death; Only Death is Real

This is Anita filling in with some bullet points.
Part 1/3
En El Presente
. Santi and Raq talk on the phone. Catch up with the latest news.
. Next morning Fede tells Raq he and Mia will support her with anything she decides regarding Benji.
. Raq admits to being scared OF and FOR Mia.
. Santi rather reluctantly shares with Lola & Nico the information Ant passed on regarding Attack Guy and Garrido being involved in the accident. One of them confessed to helping provoke the accident and robbery was the motive. No news on Caro's killer, though.
. Ant and Nando strategize. Ant says it's so logical that it happened the way AG says it did, but something doesn't add up. When the two approached the crashed vehicle, they didn't have time to look for the money before they heard sirens heading their way. Ant muses, but then how did Dam's fingerprints get on the gun that killed Caro and why was it Santi's pappi's gun? AG claims only Dam was on the ground. (Flashback to the two guys doing their thing.)
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Wednesday, February 14, 2018

Papá a toda madre Wednesday 2/14/18 Capítulo 22: The Legendary Bad Penny Always Turns Up

Officials from the city visit Nerón and close his business down. Nerón first begs them not to but is told that he can either comply or end up in jail. He is then incensed. He knows that they want a bribe but he isn't going to give them one. He is an honorable man. There is no reason for them to close down his tire business. They tell him that he better take his complaint to the Public Ministry as they put up huge “closed” signs sealing the doorways of his business. Pablo tries to calm Nerón down and asks if he wants him to go with him to contest the action. Nerón says sure but only up to the door so they don’t get wind of him being here illegally and send him back to Guatemala.

Back at the school, Renée asks the priest to clarify what a normal and traditional family is. No problem there: it is one that is created by the Church in holy matrimony consisting of a father, a mother and children. She then asks what he thinks about single mothers and the kind of family she had with her mother and herself. Would he not consider that a family? The priest and the nun answer in unison and the answer is “NO”. The nun makes it clear that there is only one kind of family and Father Cutberto described it. Renée finds it unbelievable that they would expel a little girl for just asking questions that are age appropriate. She does not live in a bubble and realizes that there is so much more out there beyond what they are telling her. Mauricio agrees and adds that his daughter is quick and witty. She got her intelligence from him, of course. Renée tells the priest that it is they rather that don’t “fit” the needs of Anifer. The school is way too limiting for her. Mauricio likes that. The priest comes back with maybe it is not limiting enough since the child seems to have inherited her rebelliousness from her mother. The nun seconds that. Mauricio grabs Renée and pulls her close to him saying that Renée is defending their daughter like the mother that she is. She is completely right. This school is not at Anifer’s level. They won’t be expelling Anifer because he and Renée are leaving and taking Anifer with them.
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Caer en Tentacion #88/89, 2/13/18: Death and Denial::Let Downs, Take Downs, & Shake Downs

88: Death Succumbs Her 

A Chinese firedrill ensues at the worksite where Santiago has fallent about 15 feet off the ladder.  The ambulance comes and loads him up and Carolina meets the kids at the hospital.  He's going to need surgery and a nail put into a fractured leg.

Excited discussions at Legato that Federico overheard makes him surmise correctly that Papi has something on the side he's been trying to hide.  He and Damian go to lunch together.  He walks all around the topic to get a response from Daddy Dam; Dam accuses Fede of accusing him of something untoward. 


At the hospital, Carol and Lola confront the head of accounting/insurance agency? about their lack of insurance suddenly now due to a couple of unmade payments.  Caro had no idea and the two females harangue the guy unmercifully.  Caro angrily states she cannot believe that after paying gawd knows how much money to them all these years when they finally need it now they refuse to cover this accident over two missed payments!!  (Yup.  You go, girl!)  When she puts it that way (it sounds like the worst abuse in the world of legalistic bureaucratic power (which I agree, strict Girl Scout that I am, it is) the bureaucrat seems to back down and states that all they have to do is come up with the missed payments and the crisis is over.


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Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #21 2.13.18: Lying Won't Help You Now


Or Jorge the Hypocrite


  • Jorge hopes Yuriria is in treatment and going to get better but she shakes her head and tells him that she is terminally ill and has accepted it.



  • As the kids argue about who has brushed their teeth and who has not, Veronica threatens to return the dog to Rafael if they don’t behave. They agree to stop and Veronica asks them to make sure Carola is in a safe place while they are out so that her furniture is safe. Unknownst to her, Tono is brushing his teeth at the table, spitting toothpaste in the coffee cups cleaning his toothbrush in one of the glasses.



  • Yuriria explains that she didn’t think it prudent to tell him about her illness over the phone and is sorry. Jorge thinks there is nothing to apologize about and confesses that she is love of his life and he only realized it a short while a go. He cries as he says this.


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    Monday, February 12, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #86/87, 2/12/18, Lunes: Unnatural Killers / A Visit From the Reaper



    Chapter 86: Unnatural Killers

    Raquel and Damián continued their heated conversation regarding Andres' remarks about Carolina. Raquel seemed ready to accept Andres' assertions that Carolina would do anything for money but Damián knew his cousin much better than that. Raquel said she was looking into things to prove her own suspicions, that Carolina was hiding something, as this would ultimately hurt Santiago. Damián tried to avoid further conversation on this, claiming to be very tired. As he started to leave the room he wanted to know why that was such a big deal to Raquel. She reminded Damián that Santiago was his friend and business partner. He asked what proof she had and she said “You know Andres; there was no proof.” Damián did an about face, deciding he needed to speak to Andres right away. As he left the room Raquel called Santiago's cell phone, which was in the bedroom on the nightstand near Carolina.
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    Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 20, 2/12/2018: Careful with Those Gift Horses, Mau; You Might Get Kika’d


    Alt Titles: A Redeemed Flower and a Happy Plant
                    Papi Number 11, Kika’s Got Your Number!
    At Logatoys, Gladys tells Mau that Kika Braun is looking for him and she is there at the office, so Mau spruces up with a hair smoothing and mouth spray…which Fabian uses also. As they try to calm down, Mau tells Gladys to have Kika wait a moment.

    At La Chapianeca Restaurant, Juan Perez meets with Falcón and asks how he can be of service. After Falcón shows him his phone and tells him they must wait for orders, Perez agrees to wait, but wants to know who Falcón is and what it is he really wants. Falcón, however, replies that the less they know about each other, the better because, after all, his (Perez) name isn’t Juan Perez either. Perez backs down and agrees to wait for orders from higher up without any more questions. (OMG is it a Fisher Price takeover?)
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Feb 12, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

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    Saturday, February 10, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #84/85, 2/9/18: Carol is determined to end the guilt; and Raquel finds out that Carol has been cheating on Santi (or does she?).

    Note: All cut scenes are in Red. [On some computer screens the red will only be black bold italic. --Edit.]  

    Episode 84
    In the present time
    Mia is in the hospital with Damian when he speaks and says “Carolina” Mia asks “do you remember who Carolina is?” he whispers again “Carolina” and starts going into convulsions, Mia begins to panic and starts yelling for a nurse to come. A nurse comes in and asks Mia to please leave. Mia looks stressed and is panicking.
    At Raquel’s house Santi comes to see Benji, Raquel hands Benjamin to Santi. Santi gets Benji and says lets go home and Benji {who in my opinion is the best actor in this TN} says “a la casa”. Santi asks Raquel “how did you do it how did she change her mind?” Raquel replies “She is going to give up custody, it’s complicated.” “you will be able to come visit him any time, as often as you want, you will be with him forever “ Santi wonders what Raquel means by come see him as often as you like and says “What do you mean come as often as we can, Lola Nicolas and I are his family”, “look at me I'm not your enemy, he will be fine, I only ask you to please understand” she asks him to be patient  he wonders why he always has to be the one to understand.
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    Papa a Toda Madre; Capiítulo 19, Friday, February 9, 2018; The Neighbors meet Rodrigo and Rafael, Renée’s new Tenants


    We left off yesterday with Mauricio meeting Kika Braun at the toy expo, who seems to recognize him, but he doesn’t seem to know her. But she being very beautiful and sexy, of course wants to know her and can’t believe he cannot remember her. [Don’t fall for this Mauricio, it looks like a trap!] She introduces herself and says that she thought he might have recognized her from being online. “My name is Chiquinquirá Braun, but everyone calls me Kika. See this magazine? I found you in this magazine.” Mauricio says, “It sounds like destiny to me, since this is such a coincidence.” The magazine refers to Mauricio as #11 most sought after bachelor. Maur says, “Well I know I didn’t make the top 10, but at least I’m still in the ranking, right?”

    Kika looks over at Mauricio’s display at the expo, and says, “Are those yours? Well I guess I’ll make the rounds here, but I’ll be right back.” Mauricio promises not to move

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    Friday, February 09, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #82/83, 2/8/18: The Party of Doom - The Aftermath

    El Presente is a continuation of Ayer
    Santiago is getting an earful from Lisa over the phone. She only *thinks* Vic could have killed Caro, well, because he's acting so strange. She tells him Vic keeps talking to Caro as if she were there. Lisa heard him say it wasn't his fault, to leave him in peace. She's scared. If he didn't kill her, why is he so tormented. Santi tells her he's on his way. They won't call the police until after he gets there, otherwise they'll get him a lawyer and he'll lawyer-up. Vic comes into the room and wants to know if she was talking to the police. She says she was talking to Santi. He gets violent and starts shaking her and yelling at her. Then he "sees" Carolina. He races out of the house to catch up with "her."

    Cintia and Nando are sitting together in Raquel's living room. They have some quiet moments as Nando says he needs to see her; he likes being with her; he likes talking to her; being with her is good for him; she makes him feel good. This leads to a gentle kiss.
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    Thursday, February 08, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #18 2.8.18: What do a blond, a brunette and a 6-year-old have in common?

    Or "Would I Lie to You?"

    Veronica meets with her boss in his office, not to reprimand her, but to offer her a promotion to Director of Innovation and Systems, if she accepts.

    Moments later, Veronica comes out of the boss’ office and tells the secretary that the meeting went better than expected and they even gave her the day office. The secretary suggests she enjoy her day and Veronica decides to send it with her family. The secretary then hands her the address she requested, and Veronica thanks her.

    At Logatoys, Mauricio and Fabian meet with Falcon to discuss the Miami trip. Leopoldo explains that Mauricio will have to pay his way if he wants to go. Mauricio argues that the trip is for Logatoys, to put them back on the map as an international brand, but Falcon shakes his head. Mauricio thinks he is trying to sabotage his company and Falcon finally agrees to pay for the trip, but he wants immediate results. Mauricio laughs and thinks it’s obvious he will get them.

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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of February 5, 2018

    TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

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    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
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    Caer en Tentacion #80/81, 2/7/18: The Party of Doom (#77 according to Uni)

    Take aways from this episode:

    (1) I don't think Vicente killed Carolina, I believe he was involved in some way with the accident that happened but I do think that he loved his sister and although he was blackmailing her he would never have killed her.
    (2) Mia is way up on my list, I truly believe that she is mentally unstable. She makes up lies, she's obsessive and she manipulates people in order to get her way, but what puts her high on my list is that she seems to believe that once Damian wakes up they will be a perfect family. I'm wondering to what she would have done if she found out that Damian was with Carolina- would she kill to keep her "perfect family" together? I'm gonna say yes.
    (3) Carolina is a salty b*tch
    (4) Raquel has really nice arms.
    (5) Nicolas has really cute bed sheets.

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    Wednesday, February 07, 2018

    Papá a toda madre Wednesday 2/7/18 Capítulo 17: You Can't Get Blood From a Turnip--OR--A Leopard Cannot Change its Spots

    Valentina is sitting waiting for her mother in a hotel lobby with her suitcase all packed. She listens to her dad on her phone saying that he will come and get her but does not answer. Finally, Valentina gets up and goes to see the desk clerk and asks to call the room of Sra. Goyeneche. The desk clerk tells her that she has checked out a couple of hours ago with her companion but she did leave a note for Valentina. It says: "Forgive me, daughter. I really thought it over and you are going to be better off with your father. Kisses, Mommy." Valentina puts down the note and calls her dad.

    A completely depressed Valentina is driving home with Jorge. Jorge doesn’t need to hear anything from her. The important thing is that she reconsidered and that they are going home. Jorge tells her that the next time she doesn’t understand something to just remember that whatever he does, he does for her and her brother’s own good. He adds that he does not say it often or enough, because he was never taught to do it, but she and her brother are his children and he loves them. Valentina can only cry. They are the most important things that he has.
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    Caer en Tentacion #78/79, 2/6/18: Choose Or Lose; More Accusations and Recriminations

    [This is #78 as Jardinera got to see it - what was broadcast of #79 follows at the end.] 

    • Damian, eyes wide open, listens to Santiago's threats to make him pay for all the harm he's done his family, not least of which is killing his unborn child in the carwreck and taking away Benji.  Dam's vitals go haywire from angst and the med staff races in along with Raquel at that point.  Santi and Raq are shooed out.  
    • Santi asks what's to become of them now that Dam's awake.  Raq admits she's torn and must take care of her family first.  He tells her he'll wait till the dude gets well, then he'll give the guy what he deserves.  He leaves the hospital totally depressed.
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    Tuesday, February 06, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #16 2.6.18: Can You Smell What the Doc is Cooking?

    Or "How to Lose a Date in Two Hours"or "Endless Voicemails from a Controlling Father"

    Veronica thinks it’s good that Renee is going to live with Lupe so she can get to know him, lest we have another Alejandro situation on our hands. Either way, she warns Renee to not confuse love with companionship and tells her it’s okay to make a mistake because she’s only human.

    Mauricio chides Anifer for calling him “dad” but she wants to pee, desperately. They try to go into the men’s room but it’s being cleaned so Anifer asks him to take her to the woman’s bathroom, as she’s scared that another Enriqueta will kidnap her. Once inside, Anifer goes to pee in a stall and Mauricio decides to pee in another stall. He goes inside one as three women walk in and he comes out once he’s done. The woman are shocked to see he’s there and begin to scream and berate him as Mauricio asks Anifer to come out so these women can see he’s only there for her.
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    Monday, February 05, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #76/77, 2/5/18 Lunes: Lies and Assignations and Family Feud

    Chapter 76: Lies and Assignations

    Carolina lied to Santiago, telling him that she had been speaking to Lisa, who sent kisses and wishes to Benjamín on his happy occasion. Santiago was feeling amorous enough to get close and begin a kissing session with her despite the party going on in the living room. He had just kissed her when Florencia walked in to check on whether she needed any help. Carolina told her she didn't and told her to go back out and enjoy herself. Just as Santiago left with the beers meant Carolina's cell rang. She looked down and lied.
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    Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 15, 2/5/2018: Mau Gets a Clue, But Is Still CLUELESS!


    Alt Title: Give the Dog a Bone and He’ll Want the Whole Chick-en
    Previously: At Logatoys, Mau, Fabian and Anifer arrive with the toys and are greeted by Falcón who has with him the new council. Falcón explains that after their last meeting, it was obvious to him that Mau has been maturing. When Falcon reminds Mau that Mau decided that Falcón would not be involved in any decisions related to creations, Mau assumes that Falcón formed a council behind his back. Falcón denies going behind Mau’s back and justifies that he just wanted to equalize the decision-making authority by bringing in a council made up of very talented people. After Mau retorts that Falcón can’t do such things without consulting him, Falcón tells him that will change because from now on, every decision Mau makes will be evaluated by the council…and Mau will be able to decide NOTHING of his own accord (for the benefit of Logatoys, or humanity in general?).
    At Renée’s house, Loopy calls and says, “Is everything ok? You sound very discouraged, baby.” Renée responds that she just got home from a meeting with Adriana, her advisor, who told her that the people from Maryland came up with something else that she was not expecting. (Loopy hears: Move quick, it is easier to catch a wounded rabbit.)
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of February 5, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

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    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
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    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
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    Saturday, February 03, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #75, 2/2/2018: Santi and Raquel try to move on, but Damian has a different Idea.


    Present
    Damian opens his eyes and the nurse calls doctor telling him that Damian has had a reaction. The doctor checks him out, and says he will need to run some tests because it could just be an automatic reaction which means nothing.
    Raquel and Santi are in bed they are declaring their love for each other. Santi says ”I want to go far away with you, Benjamin, with the children, why not? Far away from all of the bad things, the bad people. I want to get lost in your eyes, in your heart, in your world, to be with you always. I need you." She leans over to kiss him.  
    Jovita picks up a call from the hospital telling her that Damian “woke up” she says “are you sure, yes I will tell them. Mia your dad woke up”

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    Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 14, Friday, February 2, 2018; Renée passes herself off as Anifer’s mother (as a favor)


    We open with Anifer telling Mauricio that he is exploiting child labor laws. Mauricio wants to know where she learned that one from. Well of course she learned it from her mother and by the way, didn’t he promise to get in touch with her mother so that she can talk to her? Mauricio tries to distract her by offering her a popsicle, but she says, “I want to talk to my mother! And I don’t want it to be tomorrow, I want it to be now!”

    Mauricio tries to explain to her that her mother is in a remote location where there isn’t any wi-fi. “That’s the reason she cannot communicate with us, and neither us with her.” “Well” says Anifer, “If you aren’t going to be able to call my mother, then I’m not going to help you anymore with my drawings.” Maur says, “You’re my flesh and blood, you should not be putting conditions on me. Who do you think you are?”
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    Friday, February 02, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #74, 2/1/18: The proof is in the fingerprints!


    Oh my gaaaaaawd. What a fun episode! Federico finds his backbone and almost kills his grandma, we have the finger print results, we know why Laura is gimpy, and Godoy gets shot! Sooo much stuff!

    I'm going to take this in chunks, because I think just about everything that happened in this episode is important in moving the story forward. This will not be in order but I hope to cover everything.

    Part 1:

    I'll start in the past with the Alvarado's. Santiago is upset to learn that Carolina is giving Vicente money, he demands to know why she is always helping him and she tells him that she owes him, then she does one of the worst things she's done to date: she tells Santiago she has been giving Vicente money because he saved her from being raped as a child. I don't know about you guys, but I felt like hitting her, to use such a horrible thing from her past to help hide her affair is just sick.

    Florencia, Benjamin's nanny tells her cousin Agustin about the fight she witnessed between Vicente and Carolina and of his accusations against Carolina. Agustin tells her to keep her mouth shut and perhaps find another job, but she refuses, Benjamin needs her (also, she wants to get into Santiago's pants).

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    Thursday, February 01, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #13 2.1.18: Labor Law Lessons from a Chipmunk

    Or "Like Father, Like Daughter"

    Anifer hides in an abandoned building and screams when a shadowy figure appears.

    Moments later, Enriqueta drags Anifer outside and warns her to be quiet. She attracts a crowd of people, who ask for her blessing, and Anifer begins to scream for help and bites Enriqueta. Enriqueta quickly explains that Anifer is off her meds and she has to get her home soon.

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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 29, 2018

    TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

    Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción
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    Caer en Tentacion #73, 1/31/18: To Pull the Plug or Not...Is There an Alternative?

    El Presente
    Miriam is not allowed to pull the plug on Damian. Since the doc won't go behind Raq's back, Mim is going to find another way (she tells the doc imperiously). Her other way, as Raq finds out later, is to stop paying for his hospital care. Raquel is in a bind because her insurance has run out.

    Santi learns Juan is the real father of Lola's baby. He's furious. How could she do this? She says this was done "to" her.

    Mia, Raquel and Fede have a family discussion on Dam's fate. Mia is against disconnecting her dad from life support. It would be like killing him. There's a chance he might wake up. Raq gives her the facts on his prognosis. Fede, hesitantly, would agree to disconnect him. The person in that hospital bed is no longer their father. Mia is not convinced. This convo goes on too long. Cintia is the silent audience. Raquel says she sees both sides, but before she can say anything more Mia charges in shouting that Raq wants her dad disconnected so she can be left with Santiago. That earns her a well-placed slap. Mia stares at her mother, speechless and heads off to her room.
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    Wednesday, January 31, 2018

    Papá a toda madre Wednesday January 31, 2018 Capítulo 12: Kidnapping, Conspiracy, and Blackmail: Oh, My!

    At Jorge’s house, he is asking his daughter Valentina why she has not been going to her religious studies class. Father Cutberto told him that she has not been attending. What has she been up to? She says maybe Father Cutberto doesn’t see very well . . . Jorge wants her to look him in the eye and tell him the truth. She insists she has been going. If he doesn’t believe her he should go talk to her teacher. She cannot believe he has such little trust in her. He ends up apologizing. She is talking about getting ready for the concert and the fact that Toño and Samuel are going to Jorge’s godparent’s 50th anniversary party.

    At Mauricio's house, Mauricio has taken on a much more conciliatory tone and is trying to convince a reluctant Anifer that living with her great aunt the nun will be a thousand times better for her. He follows her into their house. Mauricio explains that he is simply not ready to be a father. She insists that she has to live with him because he is her father. She likes him. He wants to know where it says that. He is too young to be a father. She doesn’t think he is so young. Well, he says he is more like an old kid. Maybe some time he will be ready to be a father. Anifer wants to know if she goes with the nun, will he ever come and see her. Of course he will . . . when he can. . . maybe not everyday but he will come to see her. Her next concern is if her mother comes looking for her, will he tell her where she is. Mauricio says of course he will. He asks nicely if she will go with her great aunt.
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    Monday, January 29, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #72, 1/29/18, Lunes: Catch and Release


    Chapter 72: Catch and Release

    Carolina's cell rang. She shut if off, telling Raquel she was doing so so they could talk.
    I am turning off the phone so we can talk.”
    We can talk. I like clarity. I understand your reaction to what happened with Benjamín because I'm a mother. I don't accept your reaction but I understand it.” She paused a moment. “Why did you hurt me? Why did you hurt me so much?” She started to cry. “You accused me in front of my husband of being unbalanced and unable to take care of a baby. You know full well or suspected that this would prevent Santiago and my husband from allowing me to take care of a baby.” Carolina looked as though she was going to answer this but not in a positive way. “I only want you to know that I am not sick.” Carolina started, but Raquel interrupted. “No, no, no, I'm sorry but I'm not out of my mind or unable to care for a baby. It was an accident. You exposed me in front of my husband and hurt me. You are not my friend.”

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    Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 11, 1/29/2018: A World Full of Crooks, Grown Men with Toy Guns…and Nun-Sense Trouble for the Cherubim


    At Renées home, Renée chides Mau for leaving Anifer alone. Mau wants her to stop scolding him since it was an emergencya social emergency. When Mau goes to check on Anifer who is asleep on the couch, he touches her forehead and feels that she is quite warm. When Renée checks Anifer, she gasps and tells Mau that Anifer is very hot and has a fever. Mau immediately brushes off the blame from himself and asks Renée what she gave Anifer for dinner. Renée can’t believe Mau could be serious since Anifer came knocking at her door in the middle of the night because he left her alone. Mau takes his big foot out of his mouth and apologizes to Renée…he doesn’t know what he is saying (uh-huh! You just had an epiphany?).
    When he stutters as he asks what they should do, Renée tells him to use his common sense (did she see pigs flying?)
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 29, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

    Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego**
    • 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción**
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

    **Preempted Tuesday for Estado de la Unión

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    Saturday, January 27, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #71, 1/26/2018: To live and let live,yet when it comes to Damian just let him die.


    In the past:
    Carol says what matters is that Raquel does not find out about the affair, and he agrees. So I am just your lover and I am Santi’s wife. Carol tells Damian that it is time to end their relationship. He replies “are you jealous of Raquel?” to which she says that it’s not that but they are about to be discovered and she would not be able to face her children if they were found out. Damian makes his little victim face and says “I love you with all of my being” he begins to cry. But Carol just says “If you love me you have to get away from me” He then says “Don’t say that please” she gets up and leaves.

    Agustin is with his cousin Florencia out in the street. Flo just bought a toy for Benji. Agustin asks her if she likes Santi. He says he knows how she is so please tell him what is going on. “You like Santi don’t you?” Flo denies it. He then tells her just watch it because he recommended her and does not want to lose his job.

    Mia is having a conversation with Nico, she wonders what is up with Fede because he does not know if he is gay or not. Nico tells her to let him be and then gives her some stellar advice, “it doesn’t matter if he is gay or not, his preferences don’t matter what matter is Love. Love is love right? Don’t you want your brother to be happy?”

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    Papa a toda Madre, capítulo 10, Friday January 26, 2018; Toño has a fight with Mauricio in a barroom brawl!


    Mauricio continues talking to Monja Gueta and she is amazed that she is the grand aunt to Anifer. She wants to know where her niece Maria Cruz is, so Mauricio breaks the bad news to her that she has been murdered. She reacts very badly and almost faints, but Maurcio tells her get a hold of herself. He sits down and tells her that before Maria died, she had Anifer seek him out so he could take charge of her. Gueta, says that she believes that this was God’s providence and a miracle so he could take care of her niece. But, he tells her, Anifer does not know about what happened to her mother and doesn’t want her to know just yet. Gueta agrees to that. The she tells him that she would be honored to take care of little Anifer. Mauricio become excited over this (thinking he can hand Anifer off to her)

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    Friday, January 26, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #70, 1/25/18: The Investigation Heats Up (Really?) Yes, a Stolen Credit Card

    Or, Dam(n) I'm Breaking Up With You Because All You Want From Me is Sex.

    Folks, what luck. A CSI episode that goes nowhere fast just dropped in my lap. The recap, however, will go somewhere. Some scenes are combined.

    After Antonio tells Santi about the one stolen credit card from Dam's billfold getting used (see prior episode) he quickly goes over the facts they have:
    1. A rock hit the windshield. It could have been an accident, but it could also have been deliberate, to make them stop.
    2. After the wreck, Dam was hit on the head with a shovel and Caro's body appears elsewhere.
    3. They believe Caro was likely shot once at the scene of the accident with Santi's father's gun.
    4. One credit card was stolen, although now they aren't sure if anything else was taken.

    He promises they are going to follow up. Santi swears he didn't do it. Tonio says the judge will have to let him go--as long as he doesn't do anything else stupid.
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    Thursday, January 25, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #9 1.25.18: Slashed Tires & Black Scorpions Do Not Make You a Better Person

    Neron warns Mauricio that he will make it his personal mission to make sure his time at the cul-de-sac is miserable indeed. Neron then goes outside and looks at Mauricio’s car with malicious intent.

    That night, Mauricio and Anifer have a dinner of apples and she suggests that they keep looking around the house to find furniture or buy them. Mauricio doesn’t want to, as he needs to save money to move soon, but Anifer argues that she won’t live with him for long as her mother will come back for her. Mauricio tries to tell her the truth but there is a knock on the door and Mauricio asks Anifer to be careful if it’s Neron. It’s Renee, who gives Mauricio back his microwave, which she fixed, though Mauricio is unsure.
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of January 22, 2018

    TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

    Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos
    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—José José, el Príncipe de la Canción
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

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    Caer en Tentacion #69, 1/24/18: Alina and Mia, a tale of two nut balls

    Recap time!


    • At the jail Santiago sees a woman who is wearing a bracelet that is identical to one that he had gifted to Carolina, he accuses the woman and her husband of having stolen it from his dead wife. It does not help matters any when Antonio questions the woman and realizes that the inscription on the bracelet had been erased.
    • Alina gets a phone call about Santiago's melt down and runs off to see him- oh this is right after she finishes having sex with Nicolas, who is hiding out at her house because she has led him to believe that there's an active warrant out for him because he punched Andres (more on that later)
    • How did Alina get Nico to sleep with her? By telling him that he owed her for representing her father, she won't take cash, checks or credit cards, just penis. Then she tells him she loves him (lies!)
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    Papá a toda madre Wednesday 1/24/17 Capítulo 8: More is Not Necessarily Better When Less is Barely Tolerable--OR--A Mystery Shoe Box is Not Opened

    At Jorge's house, Jorge takes Samuel’s tablet away from him. All technology is off limits for Samuel for a month unless he tells him who put the porn on his tablet. Any kind of homework he has to do on the internet will have to be done under Jorge’s supervision. Samuel asks if Jorge talks to his mom. Jorge stumbles as he always does with the truth: no, sometimes, maybe. She is very busy with the Carthusian nuns. She is okay and said she would be calling Samuel or writing him. She sends her regards. Samuel wants to know why she didn’t send him some hugs. She doesn’t love him anymore. Jorge tells him it is not like that. She still loves him. He asks for his tablet so he can send her a message. That is not happening but Jorge says it was a good try. He is being punished unless he puts things right or tells him who put the pornography on the tablet. Samuel is left to stew on his bed.

    Renée is having dinner with Dr. Lupe at her place discussing her graduate school problem. He offers to help her with whatever he can with but he thinks that the only way for her to not to worry about her visa, her admission, or anything else is to apply for American citizenship. She agrees but now is not the time in her life for that. She turns and talks to the photo of her mother that has been set up with a candle like a little shrine. She asks her mom to give her a hand with the mess she is in. She promises to clean up her room and put everything she loved in order. Dr. Lupe just smiles as Renée tries to explain talking to her mother.
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    Wednesday, January 24, 2018

    Caer En Tentacion #68, 1/23/18: Time To Play Hard Ball


    • There's a crisis of faith at the jail between Alina and Santiago who is asking her for cash from the kids to plan who knows what through his jail-mate's connections.  Alina refuses, guessing something's up.  "--Get another lawyer if you really don't think I'm acting in your best interest.  Things take time!  It won't be long now.  It's your right to be let loose without convincing proof of the crime.  This judge knows that.  Trust me!  I will get you out of here."  Santi holds off.

    • At the same time, Raquel squares off with Miriam in the doorway of Mimi's manse de expanse. "--I'm here for Benji.  I am not going to let what you did to Damian happen to Benjamin!"  She accuses Mimi of competing with Dam for his love--and not just motherly love.   "--If I've kept quiet all this time it was for your son!  If you continue with this you'll force me to come out with it." This threat really gets Mimi screamin'.  (Mimi has an Achilles heel, after all. Skeletons apparently are just waiting to tumble out of her walk-in.)  "--Years of terror!  Years of therapy, of not being able to speak about it.  You abused him, Miriam!  Give Benji back or I will not stop till everyone knows, including your grand kids!"
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    Tuesday, January 23, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #7 1.23.18: Guess Who's Moving Next Door?

    Mauricio receives a mysterious phone call and is floored by the news he receives.

    Wilma calls Renee to the university to inform her that they are reducing the amount of students that are accepted in a US university in her field. Renee asks if she’s safe, as she was already accepted, but Wilma explains that she needs to complete the required forms in time or they may give her spot to a waitlist student. Renee can’t believe the dilemma she’s in: she can’t apply for a student visa without being formally accepted into the university, which she can’t do if she has no money to pay for it. Wilma hopes they find a solution soon but Renee sighs heavily.

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    Monday, January 22, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #66/67, 1/22/18 Lunes: Predators and Prey

    Chapter 66: Predators and Prey

    Carolina asked Florencia whether she had disposed of the garbage and she said she had; Santiago was taking the bins out. Carolina appeared testy. This was possibly due to Damián's presence but also to Florencia herself. She may have sensed that the girl found Santiago attractive. She was about to have another disagreement with Damián when Raquel had entered. Santiago returned and Carolina pretended that all was well. Florencia knew that something wasn't right in this house when the two women talked about the next day. Raquel volunteered to look after Benjamín again, then left with Damián. Santiago and Carolina disagreed about Florencia's duties. Although she didn't say so Carolina felt like Florencia was encroaching on her territory by cooking for Santiago, who asked her whether she was jealous. She didn't admit to it, but he didn't really give her an opportunity. He persuaded her to finally break her post-partum celibacy.
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    Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 6, 1/22/2018: Blithering, Blundering Buffoons Just Can’t Find the Words!


    Thoughts and memories in italics
    [Previously: At Logatoys, Mauricio sees a message from Juan Perez, a man who claims to know María. Fabian reads that Perez is asking to meet in a town close to where Anifer lives and claims to know where María is.] Mauricio wants Fabian to go with him because this thing about “blind dates” has always given him the heebie-jeebies. Fabian doesn’t think they should trust the man because he could be dangerous, but Mauricio thinks he has no choice…sometimes one has to trust a stranger’s generous offer; or do whatever it takes to return a child to its mother. When Mauricio asks if they still have the helicopter, Fabian confirms that they do; then sighs deeply in frustration as Mauricio walks away.
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José el Príncipe de la Canción, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of January 22, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

    Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-12:30PM—Secretos Peligrosos**
    • 1-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego**
    • 8-9PM—José José, el Príncipe de la Canción
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

    **Starting this week, Las Reglas del Juego will air for just one hour per day (1-2PM) rather than two.  A Turkish novela, Secretos Peligrosos, will air from 12-12:30PM, and Noticias will fill the remaining half hour (12:30-1PM)

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    Saturday, January 20, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #65, 1/19/2018; Florencia is the 5th wheel and will make sand castles fall (or that Plot Gun is driving me crazy)


    Present time:
    Antonio tells Alina that if there is no physical evidence tying Santi to the crime, he still is a suspect for being the master mind. Alina asks “what makes you say that?” Antonio replies “the fact that the gun is his and the Beckers have evidence that he owed a significant amount of money to Damian.” Alina looks taken aback.
    Raquel goes to see Santi. She looks weak, exhausted and tells him to resist because she needs him with her. She says she knows he did not do it. “Do you know who killed Carolina?” says Santi. She replies “I don’t know who killed her, but I do know how much you loved her, so you would not kill her.” “I thought you knew” Raquel says “no I have some ideas maybe, Miriam, Andres and possibly Vicente he is so unstable, but on the other hand Damian’s family always thought you guys were with us because you were interested in our money.” She then says “if I knew something I would tell you” Raquel continues and says “it’s important to know who took out the gun from the drawer” she speculates that maybe Carol, Santi says “what you think she took the gun out to commit suicide or to kill Damian?” {Ok patio, I need to stop here a minute…now when Raquel found the gun in the drawer she actually handled the gun right? So what is this supposition that Carol took the gun…My head is spinning…someone please tell me that Raquel did see the gun after Carol was already dead!!}
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    Friday, January 19, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #5 1.19.17: Being a Father is Hard and Some Are Terrible At It

    Anifer hears all the hurtful things Mauricio is saying about her and her mother and runs off, with tears in her eyes.

    In Orlando, Veronica announces that she would like lobster and all the kids agree. They run off in search of the lobster stand as Veronica holds Tono back and asks him why he has such a long face. Tono asks her not to worry too much but there is the possibility that they will both be out of a job. He then runs off to control the kids as Veronica demands an explanation.

    Neron arrives home and begins to pick up all of Milady’s toys as his kids knock on the door outside. They wonder what the probably is and Neron demands they are calm. After a few minutes, he lets them inside and they wonder why he’s being so weird. Ciceron notes that it doesn’t smell too bad, as fumigations usually do, and Socretes thinks the house is surprisingly tidy. Neron tells him not too think too much about it but Socretes wants to go to his room. Neron stops him and sits him down as Flor calls him and he runs to the kitchen. He doesn’t notice Ciceron pick up a pacifier nearby and show it to Socretes.

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    Caer en Tentacion #64, 1/18/18: Treachery is Afoot Everywhere

    Part 1 of 2
    En el presente
    Godoy and Antonio discuss the current state of the case against Santiago. They're working on comparing the fingerprints. Godoy tells Tonio that actually, there is something more important to add to the case. The Becker's lawyer says he has evidence to use against Santiago. Tonio says that until they get fingerprint results, they have nothing. They should have the results later that afternoon. Godoy is convinced this was not merely a crime of passion. Much more is in play. Godoy is going to go back and interview Vicente. Oh, and by the way, says Tonio, Laura was here asking about him. Be careful, he warns, a woman hurt is dangerous.

    Miriam apparently saw Alina there at the police station and asks Rueda why she's there. He tells her she has information for him on Santi's case and will be presenting it to the judge. He does warn her that the fingerprints might not match, but not to worry, he has another card to play. It seems Santi borrowed a lot of money from Damian but never paid it back. Dam wrote him a very large check. Miriam is pissed that Dam never mentioned it. They agree that this is enough to put Santi behind bars until he rots away. Rueda says they can't use it right now, but later it could be used as a motive for the attempt on Damian. [ed. note: If this were the case, wouldn't Santi have made sure Dam was dead and not just knocked out?] Rueda proudly puts forth his theory--eliminate Damian; eliminate the debt.
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    Thursday, January 18, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #4 1.18.18: Business Lessons from a Professional Playboy

    The funeral director tells Renee that Lupe paid all the outstanding bills. Renee is shocked.

    Outside Logatoys, Neron and Renee discuss what Lupe did. Neron doesn’t know what she should do but Renee is going to pay Lupe back because he shouldn’t be doing those things for her anyway. Neron wishes he could give her some money, but he’s barely getting severance pay, though Renee has an idea on where to get the money to pay Lupe and pay for her Masters.

    Jorge informs Mauricio and Fabian that, without Mr. Fairbanks as an investor, they will need layoff half the staff to take care of the most pressing debts. Mauricio is against it, as they barely get paid minimum wage, but barely knows if his employees are salaried or hourly, let alone Jorge’s actual name. Fabian asks Jorge to leave them alone and reveals that he has found a last minute investor as there is a knock on the door. Fabian goes to answer and it’s Renee, who comes asking for a loan from Logatoys, much to their chagrin.

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    Caer en Tentacion #63, 1/17/18: Will the Real Gun Thief Step Forward, Please?

    Sorry for the late post, yesterday was crazy. I had a pet emergency, my kitten has a UTI (and a heart murmur!) and we had to rush him to the vet, in addition to that it was my step dads 72nd birthday and by the time the day was over I was DEAD. Below is your recap!


    • Santiago is arrested, the bullet fragments belong to a gun owned by his dad, a gun that Santiago insists has never left his house, but it looks like it has and he is headed to the big house.
    • Andres takes Raquel home, Cinthia says she will take care of her sister and make sure she gets better. Raquel's doctor thinks it would be a good idea for her to be in a hospital where she can rest and where they can control the environment and make sure nothing upsets her.
    • Raquel is put to sleep and later Mia visits with her, Raquel keeps calling for Santiago who she says only wants to take care of her.
    • Cinthia tells Fede that they need to stick together in order to help Raquel, Mia, again makes everything about herself and accuses them of excluding her and not thinking about her and her feelings.
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 15, 2018 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

    Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

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    Papá a toda madre Wednesday 1/17/18 Capítulo 3: Hip! Hip! Dubai!--OR--When the Nice Guy is the Wrong Guy

    We start this episode in the funeral parlor where Renée is accepting condolences. There is Nerón her godfather and Flor, Jorge, (whose wife Dulce has not accompanied him), Verónica and Toño. Finally, there is Dr. Lupe who appears with coffee for Renée and tells her (for the first of many times) that he is there for whatever she needs. She is at the casket when the funeral director needs her to sign a few documents for the funeral home. The bill is 50,000 pesos (about $2,663). Renée is surprised by the cost. She talks to Verónica and Nerón about feeling so alone even though she is surrounded by so many people. Verónica reminds her that her mother just passed away today. Renée remarks that this has been the most intense day of her life: a wedding and a death and all that they need is a birth. Flor completes that trifecta by announcing that she feels like she is going into labor. Dr. Lupe takes control of the situation.
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    Wednesday, January 17, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #62, 1/16/18: Trapped--Everybody is Trapped

    (Scenes not necessarily in order)
    Epoca Actual
    Raquel tries to get away from the couple that is preventing her from leaving. She is now fully cognizant of who she was with, but not exactly where she is. The "hostage takers" tell her she cannot leave, that her family has been notified and Andres Becker is coming to pick her up. The man persuades her to take her medicine and lie down.

    Meanwhile, Santiago has been at the house and after being told the woman he's looking for was there but left, has been sent on a wild goose chase to the local Greyhound station and maybe they can help him. Santi talks to a police or security officer at the bus station.

    Rueda reports to Andres that apparently the gun that was used to kill Carolina belonged to Santiago. If it turns out to be true, a judge can put in an order to have him arrested. They think things will work in their favor and against Santi, especially with him alone with Raquel and outside the city. He can be charged with flight.
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    Tuesday, January 16, 2018

    Papa a Toda Madre #2 1.16.18: One Little Girl to Win the Hearts of Many

    Renee smiles at Alejandro and waves goodbye before turning around and high tailing it out of there. Catalina and Alejandro run after her.

    The little girl waves at Mauricio and runs to him as Mr. Fairbanks and Miranda wonder what is happening. The little girl hugs him tight, but Mauricio demands security take her away as he doesn’t know her. The girl claims that she doesn’t know him either but he’s her father. Miranda can’t believe Mauricio has a daughter, but Mauricio declares he does not and asks Fabian if it’s a joke. Fabian shakes his head and Miranda demands a clear answer. Mauricio tells her it’s all a misunderstanding and asks the priest to continue with the wedding. Miranda, however, reminds him that the little girl is still clutching his leg. The girl tells Mauricio that her mother wrote a letter with his name, Mauricio Lopez-Garza. Mauricio is shocked to hear he knows his name as is Miranda.

    Alejandro runs after Renee and demands she go back in the church and marry him. Renee won’t though because her priority is her career and she doesn’t need a man’s permission to follow her dreams. She runs off as Catalina, and everyone, watches.

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    Caer En Tentacion #61, 1/15/18: Raquel On The Loose





    Jardinera apologizes for the mix-up. She's fallen ill to the current scourge sweeping the nation. Rather that delete her always well crafted recap, we'll just have double the pleasure.
    • Cinthia explains to Santiago that Mia's having a fit that her mama's not there; Raquel needs to come home and quick.  They may want to escape reality for a while but if Raq finds out that Mia's been sick and upset that she's not there with her there'll be Hell to pay.  Santi starts furiously looking for Raquel.

    • At the strangers' house in the town, the couple scheme to keep Raq there while the husband calls her rich family members off the phone list of names.  Raq remembers she left without word and got lost. Santi will be worried.  She looks for her phone and it's gone!  No way to contact him now.  She struggles to think straight; between her mental problems and the meds she's on it's hard to get two meaningful thoughts strung together.  The wife promises her that her hubby is out looking for him and will contact somebody for her.

    • Bebo agrees to accompany Lola to her abortion doctor's appointment.  He tries first to talk her out of this but she's stubbornly sticking to her guns.  No way she wants this pregnancy (let alone Juan's demon seed and a reason for Perv Profession pursuing her the rest of her life).  They head off once the babysitter arrives, and Stalker Man is there in his car spying on the two of them going off arm in arm.  

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    Monday, January 15, 2018

    Caer en Tentación #61, 1/15/18, Lunes: Obstacles

    Chapter 61: Obstacles

    Just the facts tonight due to time constraints and playback issues.

    Cinthia called Santiago about Mia while he looked for Raquel. He did not tell her that Raquel was missing while she told him little about Mia, only that she was worried about her and that Mia needed Raquel.

    Raquel's female captor gave her tea and offered her something to eat while Raquel frantically looked for her cell phone so she could call Santiago. The phone was not in her purse and was most likely in the hands of her captors. Raquel wanted to get outside to get some fresh air but the woman stopped her, telling her it was too dangerous for her to go out. She tried to tell her that she would take care of her while her husband was trying to contact her friends.
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    Papa a Toda Madre #1 1.15.18: Be Careful Who You Marry

    Memories are in italics...

    On a yacht in the middle of the ocean, playboy and professional party animal, Mauricio Lopez-Garza (Sebastian Rulli), pops open a bottle of champagne with a sword and romances women by giving them a gold necklace with an “M” on it (not for marriage, oh no, he doesn’t do that) but so his conquests always remember his name. This is only his weekends though…

    During the weekdays, he holds board meetings at Logatoys to propose new toys. His latest proposal is a replica of the very same yacht he was partying on all weekend. However, Fabian Carvajal (Mark Tacher), the general manager of Logatoys and Mauricio’s best friend, notes the obvious problem (that Mauricio can’t seem to comprehend): the model for said toy would cost the company a lot of money and, therefore, it would cost a lot to mass produce said toy. If this is the case, Logatoys would have to charge consumers a lot of money for it but most of their consumers don’t have said amount of money or a pool to play with the yacht. Mauricio, however, thinks the children could play with the giant yacht in the bathtub and be done with it. He asks the Logatoys lawyer, Jorge Turrubiates (Sergio Mur), to gather all the permits so they can reconvene in a couple of weeks. Jorge asks for a more concrete date, but Mauricio directs any further questions to Fabian. Once alone, Fabian tries to tell Mauricio that things at Logatoys aren’t on the up and up, but Mauricio is sure the upcoming “Child Day” will boast sales and they have nothing to worry about.

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    Enamorándome de Ramón, 1/15/2018: Gran Fin…Por Fin!

    Skipped Scenes in Blue
    Previously: Fabi keeps asking Francystco where her daughter is, but as he is about to tell her where Ana is, Francystco passes out. While Ramón tries to hold Fabi back, Fabi curses and yells, “Damn you! You can’t die! Tell me where my daughter is! Tell me! Francystco! Francystco! Where is she?” As Ramón manages to pull Fabi away from Francystco, Francystco coughs and passes out.

    Outside, Juana worries that they are taking too long and wants to go inside, but Antonio tells her the cops are doing their job. As Juana insists that they may need her help (yeah, right! if they really do, send in the parrot!), she sees Fabi and Ramón walk out and asks them for the baby. After Ramón tells them that Francystco was not able to tell them anything and that he is dying, Sofía yells from the patrol car, “Don’t even look for her! By this time, that child should be dead!” Fabi tries to dart toward Sofía, so Ramón holds her back, but Juana turns into Calamity Jane as her pigtails twirl furiously and she grabs a pistol from a cop. After she pulls Sofía out of the patrol car, Calamity Jane yells, “Get out! Get out! You tell me right now where my granddaughter is, or you die right here!” Ramón tries to tell Calamity Jane to let Sofía go, but Calamity Jane won’t be stopped.
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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José El Principe, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, y más: Week of Jan 15, 2018

    Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays at 3:00 PM and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

    Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción**
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

    **Premieres Monday night (1/15)

    Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

    By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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    Sunday, January 14, 2018

    Caer En Tentacion #60, 1/12/18: Raquel shows signs of losing her mind, and who wouldn’t.


    In their little get away Raquel tells Santi how she felt when she first saw Damian in the hospital after the accident. When she saw him connected to the machines all she wanted was for him to wake up and tell her everything will be find instead she found out that he was with Carol and that she was his lover. She cries and asks Santi to forgive her “I have nothing to forgive you for I am here for you”
    Vicente and Andres are in Andre’s office and Vicente tells him, “you don’t know what I am capable of doing” Andres tell him to get out of his office because threats don’t work with him. As he is getting out of the office he tells Andre’s “what happened to the money that Damian owed him."
    Fede sees Vicente with Andres and asks Azucena "what is Carol's brother doing here with my uncle?” she tells him to go find out himself but he says he does not want them to know he is there.
    Cynthia gets home and tells Jovita that Raquel will be fine, just don’t tell the kids she’s with Santi.
    Then she asks about Mia, Jovita says "she is with a friend" Cynthia wants to know if it's Nico but Jovita says no, "it's Sammy"
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    Saturday, January 13, 2018

    Mi marido tiene familia Friday 1/12/18 Gran Final #2 Capitulo 102: Not Quite Happily Ever After . . . To Be Continued

    Well, this is my last recap for MMTF and I am going to thank someone I have not ever thanked before: I want to thank Juan Osorio for bringing us such a heartwarming story in such an excellent production. It quickly has become one of my all time favorites. I cannot wait until the next season.

    Next, I want to thank you, RgvChick, for joining me in recapping this story along with your EdR recapping. It was a pleasure working with you. We made a good team. I hope to work with you again in the future. :)

    I cannot forget to thank Alfredo who got us started by posting discussion pages. His initiative made all the difference.

    Finally, I want to thank you, the patio, for giving me a reason to write these recaps at all. Whether you simply read or commented once and a while or were a “regular,” your presence was noticed and valued. I always looked forward to reading the comments, opinions and interpretations expressed at our little oasis. I hope to see you on another patio very soon.

    Now, back to the very last chapter in the story . . . I cannot wait to read your comments on this one . . .

    After hearing the oompah-pah of the tuba one last time . . .

    Julieta shows Luz a page of real estate listings. It is time to move. She feels that she and Robert need to make a life of their own. She would never do anything to stop the kids from seeing their family. Luz agrees that it is healthy to maintain a certain distance from the family. Julieta wants to be able to raise her own children without having the family giving their opinion about everything. Julieta is going to continue seeing properties. If Robert does not want to look for a house, Julieta will give him his part of the money and she will use her part of the money as a down payment. Julieta’s phone rings and it is Catalina. Catalina is upset because ungrateful Hugo and Diana are moving out and abandoning her. Julieta tells her that they have the right to have their own home. Catalina is worried about having no company. She feels worse than when Julieta’s father walked out on her. Julieta tells her she will overcome this and that she is going to grow a lot from this experience. Catalina moans that nobody understands her and hangs up.
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    Enamorándome de Ramon, Friday January 12, 2018; Grand Final, part 1; Taken: The Search for Ana


    We begin where we left off last night: “Fabiola keeps playing with her baby as Francisco looks on but doesn’t move. Just then, a woman arrives and asks Fabiola is she knows where a church is. Fabiola walks away for a moment to show the women where it is and then bids her a good day. When she turns back around, she finds that Ana is gone and begins to scream for help…  “

    The lady asking for directions just walks off [I am wondering why Fabi didn’t go running after her to find out something and gotten her description to give to police.] Juana comes back and says she couldn’t have been gone for more than five minutes. A few helpful bystanders say they are calling the police.
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    Friday, January 12, 2018

    Caer en Tentacion #59, 1/11/18: Who is the Sicker One?

    Some scenes have been combined to provide continuity.

    Nacho thinks he knows who the ideal murder suspect is. Santi tells him to spill it, now. Ok, it's Miriam. Think about it. She's someone who knows every move they make, someone who is a master manipulator, who despises everyone around her, so why not Miriam. She could have planned it, she could have been responsible.

    Santi can't believe she would ever want to harm her own son. He begins to recall how Dam gave them everything they asked for (and more). He concludes Dam did it just to distract him from figuring out what he and Caro were doing. Nacho still recommends taking their new suspicion to Antonio. After all, they put him in jail with no verifiable evidence, only circumstantial. Now Tonio should be willing to investigate Miriam.

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    Thursday, January 11, 2018

    Mi Marido Tiene Familia #101, 1/11/2018: Grand Finale-Part 1 Bloodlines and Family Ties.


    This is my final recap for this superb telenovela that I almost didn’t watch. I’m so glad I watched the first episode to give it a try…and every episode thereafter was a joy to view. Every aspect of this TN was exquisitely written and portrayed by actors who were outstanding in bringing it to life.
    I want to thank Alfredo for starting us up with the discussion pages which eventually turned into full recaps…started by Jarifa, my masterful co-recapper. Thank you Jarifa for paving the way to the recaps!

    Last, but definitely not least, I want to thank all the loyal commentators and followers/lurkers in this patio who made this so much more enjoyable and rewarding with your kind words, insightful comments and creative perspectives. It was an amazing experience; and I especially loved how great the story and patio turned out to be. Hope to see you all in the next patio!


    Julieta is in her bedroom when she gets a severe cramp and her water breaks. She slowly walks toward the phone but the cramps get more severe. She slips down to the floor and looks at the phone which is a few feet away but can’t reach it. As she calls out Robert’s name and yells out in pain, Dave comes rushing in wondering what is happening to her, so she tells him to go get his Grandma Blanca. He rushes off as Julieta clamors in pain and breathes deeply. Robert arrives and hears Julieta so he rushes to her. When she tells him her water broke, Robert slowly lifts her to the bed as she screams in pain and tells Dave who is watching to go let his grandparents know and to stay at his grandparent’s home. Dave leaves as Robert tries to calm Julieta and tells her everything will be fine. Robert starts panicking so he asks Julieta what he should do. As Julieta yells, she manages to tell Robert to get her clothes which he quickly does. They continue to tell each other to calm down.
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    Enamorandome de Ramon #115 1.11.18: Two Big Coincidences & One Evil Plan

    Hello all! Well, here we are, the end of another story. Not the best story but one of the best patios I've had the pleasure of being a part of. It's true what they say, "the worse the novela, the funner the patio," and this has never been more evident than during this subpar story. 

    Regardless of it's shortcomings, it was fun to recap and discuss the actions (we thought about them more than the writers did) with all of you. 

    To the recap team of RGVChick, Sandie and Cynthia: thank you for taking this journey with me. I know there were some slow and hard times but we powered through it. I couldn't have asked for a funnier or more dependable group to share recapping duties with. Thank you!

    As for our loyal commentors: Kirby, Diana, Susanlynn, JudyB, Lucio, Nina, Carvivlie, Steve, and many others. I thank you for sticking with us through the hard and fun times. It's been a pleasure. 

    See you at the next one! :) 
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    Sofia declares that she will win back Ramon’s love because he will be hers or else.

    The next day, Ramon takes Fabiola to their new home and Fabiola is over the moon. She wonders when Ramon did all this and gives him a big kiss. As Juana hands Andrea and Jorge the baby so they can see her up close, Antonio and Margarita congratulate the couple on their new home and baby. Ramon then goes to show Fabiola the nursery, and Fabiola loves it, but she wonders what they will call the baby. They joke to about naming her Ramona or Fabiola but ultimately decide on a name they both liked: Ana. They smile and hug each other.

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    TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): Hasta que te Conocí, Sangre de mi Tierra, Señora Acero 4, & más: Week of January 8, 2018

    TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

    Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

    • 10:30AM-12PM—Santa Diabla
    • 12-2PM—Las Reglas del Juego
    • 8-9PM—Hasta que te Conocí **
    • 9-10PM—Sangre de mi Tierra
    • 10-11PM—Señora Acero 4

    ** This is the last week for Hasta que te Conocí.  Starting this coming Monday, January 15, it will be replaced by José, José: El Príncipe de la Canción.  Based on the life of the Mexican singer José José, this telenovela will star Alejandro de la Madrid in the title role.  Some early capítulos can be previewed now on Telemundo's web site.

    Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

    By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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    Caer En Tentacion #58, 1/10/18: The First Crack In The Wall

    Mia has a gripe session with her comatose papi.  It's all his fault she wants to kill herself.  She looks over at her mother hugging Santiago's daughter, Lola, and her little green monster complains that his messing with Carolina caused them all these unbearable problems and she, for one, can't begin to deal!

    Raquel gives Lola the phone number of her doctor friend to call.

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    Mi marido tiene familia Wednesday 1/10/18 Capitulo 100: The Surprise Wedding--OR--The Baby Surprise

    Julieta welcomes Gabriel and Daniela to their wedding: the wedding they wanted; the wedding they described. Julieta and Robert got both families to agree to give them the wedding they wanted. They are outside of a small church. Daniela and Gabriel are worried about their clothing. Julieta has seen to that and each other them has three “looks” to choose from in their respective dressing rooms. Linda will be acting as their stylist. The priest is due to arrive so they need to get going. Gabriel has never heard of anything like it in his life. A surprise wedding? Julieta offers to cancel it. No way, Gabriel says they are sure but cannot believe how awesome this is. Robert says since they were their godparents for the wedding they had to do something. Gabriel checks it out with Daniela. She agrees that yes!!! they are going to get married and jumps for joy. Julieta leads Daniela away and Robert is in charge of Gabriel.

    In one room, Daniela is with all of the Córcega and Mussi women. As Daniela tries on the different dresses all of the women give their opinion. Blanca tells her daughter to wear the one she is the most comfortable in while the Mussi sisters insist that she go with the most modern one. Linda keeps the Mussi sisters in line with her hairdryer. Marisol is in charge of the makeup and Linda in charge of her hair. Daniela never expected to get married like this. She woke up as if it were any old day. Julieta says they just could not let it go with a civil ceremony. Daniela thanks her and says she is so excited. Catalina has to stick in her own bitter two cents saying it is better to be like that so there is no time to be sorry. Next, Daniela has to choose her shoes.
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