Caray, Caray!

 Here's your recap:

• We start back up where we left off yesterday, Regina has slapped the living daylights out of Juan Gabriel, he totally deserved it. Regina leaves and finds Pepe Pepe, he tells her that he thinks Chente is in love with Natalia, Regina leaves in a huff.
• Natalia has a hard day, she has to deal with Adrian who is still trying to convince her that he's changed, Natalia is smart and she tells him that she will never, ever, ever believe a word he says. As the Taylor Swift song goes: We are never ever getting back together.
• Susana Gonzales is rocking that blue outfit, she looks so elegant.
• The next thing she has to deal with is trying to sell her baked goods to the hospital (I think) but the woman that makes the decisions around there refuses to work with her on the basis that Adrian is a rat bastard. 
• Elias visits Constanza, he's worried about her sudden interest in the baby, she tells him Andrea is her niece and that it's normal for her to worry about the baby and Andrea.
• Elias tells Andrea and Constanza that if the little bastard is male and truly is his grandchild he will be seeing a lot of the two women.
• Constanza and Andrea go to the car dealership to buy a car. It's a new "sell your baby for a car" program.
• In London Omar is feeling pretty crappy on account that he thinks he killed a girl but his lil heart says there's no way he could have done that, Veronica is there trying to make him feel better.
• Speaking of Veronica she totally killed Tania, she poisoned her before they were to leave for the airport, I mean on the bright side she didn't have to deal with TSA, so there's that.
• Natalia comes home and Tavo shows up a few seconds later, he asks to speak with her, he wants her to talk to Constanza and convince her to give him the divorce without having to go to trail, all he wants is his shop and the building that Chole rents rooms from, Natalia does not want to get involved. bro, how does Tavo expect Constanza to listen to Natalia when she hates her? He is one dumb bunny.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

 NOTE:  Hercai 2 and Pasión de Gavilanes will be preempted by music awards Thursday 4/21/22.

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Hey, Judy, stay dry on the patio. We have tons of left over Easter candy. Tonight it is chocolate covered marshmallow eggs.

 1. Claudio reminds Mario that Adrián didn't only betray him as a partner but he also took the woman he was going to marry. Mario thinks that now he is actually grateful that he avoided marrying a woman like Vero. He also thinks that Adrián suspects he fell in love with Natalia. Claudio chokes on his drink as he proclaims: Sacre bleu!

2. JuanGa and 2XJosé are upset with Granny Magos who is in bed but did not tell them how ill she was. Granny Magos said that she didn't want to tell them because she didn't want to fill the house with tears and sadness. 2XJosé  says will do whatever she wants. She make sit clear that she  only needs two things. In the first place, she wants Juanga to cancel his wedding. JuanGa dissolves in tears as he whines on about how much he loves Olga and how he wants her to be the mother of his five kids. She tells him to put off the wedding because only time will tell where things are going with Olga.  As for 2XJosé, she wants him to be the first Ramírez to get a university degree. 2XJosé agrees that is exactly what he intends to do. He wants to have that diploma hanging on the wall in the living room where it will look really good. He tells her she has to get well so he can show it off to her. She asks them for a hug and they both join her on the bed to hug and all cry together. 

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 Sorry, patio peeps.  No time to do the page for last night's episodio.  The only  a few things of great importance is that Natalia admitted to Magos that she's in love with Vicente, Felix is in the barrio searching for Mario but got the wrong address as given by Claudio to Adrian.  Valentina's seen him outside the garage and avoided him seeing her by doing a wonderous liplock on Mario.  Clod's also warned Mario that Adrian wanted his address and since he doesn't trust Adrian he gave out a false one.  Omar got out of a motel room bed and Veronica was in the other room rushing him to get dressed.  Samia told Constanza that Elias has had a change of heart so that if the baby is a boy and is Omar's he will inherit and be responsible for the kid.  Conz spit nails at Sam for even considering this.  She's raising the kid and ain't nobody else to stick their honker noses into it.

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Thanks to RgvChick, we know that our novela will start FIVE minutes early on Wed. 

Hey, JudyB, there is hot coffee on the patio tonight with some donuts to keep the chill out.  Sending healing thoughts your way. 

Jarifa

 1. After the slap and as Natalia demands to know why Olga sent her daughter to an abortion provider, Olga starts to fight back. As she goes to hit Natalia, Natalia grabs her arm and tells her not to dare touch her. Juanga grabs Olga to keep her under control. Olga changes the subject and tells Natalia that she is a fine one to talk when she is the one with the bad reputation that she got all by herself chasing after Chente. As Mario watches on, Natalia tells her she doesn't have to explain to anyone about anything she does in her personal life. As Juanga tries to defend Olga,  Natalia warns him to mind his own business.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

NOTE:  Hercai 2 and Pasion de Gavilanes will be preempted by music awards Thursday 4/21/22.

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By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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Parte 1~

⦁ So Elias has come to the jail to complain to Adrian about the sudden turn of affairs: he's learned that Adi arranged a deal with Piedro to purchase shares in Elias's company from Pedro.  So now, Adi has effectively used the money he embezzled from Elias and others to buy 30% ownership of Elias Hadad's company.  Adi remarks "-- a nice bit of irony, isn't it?"  Eli yells at him that it's a low-down dirty trick but Adi kicks away his chair in a fit of temper and screams back what's low-down and dirty is what he did to his daughter.  "--Andrea is a social climber!"  Adi grabs Eli by the collar.  "--Watch your mouth you dog!  I'm going to get back what Veronica stole from me!  And you better than anyone knows that money is power.  This guard and various others are on my payroll.  I could smash your damned head in and nobody would bother to stop me.  But, don't worry.  I wouldn't think of hurting my new business partner."  

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 Hi peeps, here's your recap:

• Andrea wants to get an abortion but because she's a minor she needs parental permission and she knows Natalia would never agree, she confides in Olga who recommends that she go to a clinic that Kimberly went to once, they don't ask any questions! Tell me you want to die without telling me you want to die.
• Constanza tries to get Mario to agree to receive all of her assets in order to hide them from her husband, she straight up tells Mario that he's an idiot but he's an honest idiot.
• Natalia and Chente share a romantic night, they drink and he serenades her- they KISS! 
• Meanwhile Tere and Magos get wasted on either mezcal or tequila, whatever it was it made the ladies have a very good time, a drunk Teresa confesses to Mago's that she only married Claudio out of fear of being alone but she never loved him, her one true love was her dead husband. Isn't awful what women will settle for just for fear of being alone?
• Claudio walks in on the women and comments on what a mistake it was to drink so much- Tere tells him that the only mistake she's made was marrying him.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2

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Hey, JudyB, it is windy and rainy on the patio tonight. Keep warm and comfy. Sending good thoughts your way.  

Jarifa

1.Chente appears on the road in Valle de Bravo. Natalia is so happy see him that she runs into his arms. Chente looks like he knows this is who he belongs with. Chente assures her it is all going to  be fine and he is there to help her. She pulls away and says how embarrassed she is to have brought him all the way out there. He smiles and says she would have done the same for him. He goes for his toolbox as she tells him how the car was running fine until she heard a little noise and suddenly there was smoke coming out from under the hood.  Later she found out that her cellphone was dead. He confidently says he is sure it will be something very easy to fix and investigates under the hood.

2. Ben continues to flee in terror still hearing the gunshots as Regina and 2XJosé decide to look for him one last time before calling the police.  

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[This may not be in the same order as presented....--ed.]

⦁ At breakfast Magos once again encourages Vicente to pursue Natalia; he shouldn't let her get away. "Happiness is knocking at the door."  He should open that door and welcome it in.  Just then Nata walks into the room with Benji.  The two of them look so right together.  "--We overslept.  Ready for breakfast?"

⦁ At the rooming house, Jose Jose tells Juanga he's not so sure that his brother should be getting married to Olga.  Dating her is enough, but the thought of marriage is really a disgustingly ridiculous idea.  Juanga says Jojo is just upset cause he hasn't managed to get Regina to take the bait.  Take care of his own romantic life before complaining about his.

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 Hey, JudyB, 

I see you out on the patio. It is still a little chilly so stay close to a heat lamp. Hope you enjoyed this episode.

Jarifa

1. Tavo and Chole disappear into the boarding house kissing all the while. 

2. Natalia wants to know why Regina has decided to leave the house when she thought  everything was okay. Regina explains it is because of Andrea who is not doing well at all. Natalia insists that Andrea must need her, too, so she should be looking for a new place for the three of them to stay. Regina has to tell her mother one more time that Andrea is not leaving her aunt's house but maybe Natalia could help watch over her while she is expecting. A tearful Natalia explains she is trying to understand but she cannot deal with the fact that her little girls are leaving. She asks if Connie agrees with her coming to stay with her sister. Regina says Connie doesn't know  yet but she doesn't care because she is not going to leave Andrea alone. Natalia grabs her and kisses her on the head. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2**

**On Wednesday, April 13, there's a one-day schedule change. As usual, Zap2It and Telemundo's program guide disagree about the specifics. According to Zap2It, on Wednesday Hercai will be shown at 10PM and Pasión will not be shown. However, Telemundo's program guide claims that both telenovelas will be pre-empted by fútbol. Your guess is as good as mine. Both sources agree that everything goes back to normal on Thursday.

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⦁ Natalia is a bit redfaced after Vicente tells her she is right to move out as soon as possible.  She says she only needs a couple of weeks to find a place she can afford.  Although Mario has offered to help her out...--Chente mocks her and says that she'd rather have Mario's help; she insists it was Mario's idea since he'd helped her earlier right after Adrien had first abandoned her and the girls.  However, she's refusing it again because she just doesn't feel comfortable with him.  So, that's why she had thought to remain there in the house.  And, Chente realizes that he's stuck his foot in it again with Natalia.  

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Hi Patio peeps, here's the recap for last night's episode:

• Chente and Mario are selling pastries, Mario is offering returning clients a 20% discount.
• Juan Gabriel asks Chente for a loan, he's taking Olga out and needs a thousand pesos, he also takes some cakes so Chente deducts 200.00 pesos from the money he gives Juan Gabriel, Juan Gabriel says that for Olga he will finally get his life in check. 
• William is in mortal danger (not!), Nestor is holding him at knife point but he's no match for William who disarms him and gets him to confess that Constanza sent him, William is livid.
• Why would you send Nestor to take out William, the guy barely looks like he does cardio, and worst of all he didn't even wear a mask, and with his hair anyone could pick him out of a lineup.
• William drives off like a crazy person and crashes his car...is he dead? 
• Andrea is getting settled in at Constanza's house, she has a new cell phone but all she wants is to find out where Omar is, she asks Connie to call Samia to get information on the missing Omar.
• Natalia calls Samia, Samia tells her that Omar was upset about Andrea hiding her pregnancy and that Elias convinced him to return to London to finish his degree, Andrea is crushed and says she wants to die.
• Natalia tries to comfort her but Andrea is a monster and blames her for everything that's going on. 

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 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. Connie makes it clear to Samia that an abortion isn't in the cards for her niece.

2. At his office in the garage, Tavo is expressing his regrets to Chole that Connie will not give him a divorce. Chole says they knew it was never going to be easy with Connie. Tavo also has something to tell Chole before they take the first step. He only hopes that after he is honest, that she won't cut him out of he life. Before he can say anymore, he is interrupted by noise from the garage. 

3. JuanGa is fighting with Simba and Tavo breaks them up.  Evidently Simba was telling them all about what  he had going on with Olga once upon a time before JuanGa. Olga denies it all and tries to attack Simba, too. One of the other workers starts to complain about how lazy and dishonest Simba is.  Tavo has had it with Simba and fires him on the spot. Simba threatens him with telling Connie about Chole. Tavo refuses to be intimidated. 

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⦁ Omar has escaped from Papi Elias and driven over to Constanza's to speak to Andrea about a change in plans.  Conniving Connie refuses to let him speak with her.  She tells him Andi never wants to hear from him again.  He insists on hearing it directly from Andi. Nopers.  So he starts screaming for Andi at the top of his lungs.  Connie threatens to call the police.  Ruh-roh!! He behaves but insists and tries explaining.  (It's a good try, but Connie's way ahead of him here.)   He says he's leaving the country and needs to explain why. "--And the wedding?"  "--There's been an emergency." "-- insist after those disgusting pictures of you kissing that prostitute!  Yes, my niece has proof! And, I suppose you spent the night with her also, or am I wrong?  She wants nothing more to do with you.  Don't come here again."  He gets the door in his face.  

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 1. A smiling  Natalia enters the kitchen as Mario and Chente continue to argue about who can provide Natalia with what she needs with Mario informing Chente that  he has arrived to put things in order. Natalia tells Mario how elegant he looks in his pj's. Mario snaps back that he feels ridiculous. Chente can see that because he doesn't have the "muscle" to fill them out.  Natalia notices the breakfast that Mario has made for them and asks Chente if he wouldn't agree that it is just lovely. Mario smirks and an infuriated Chente bites his tongue. 

2. Elias tells his  hysterical son not to worry because he has been working on  keeping him safe from the law. Elías asks Omar if anyone saw him leaving the room. Omar has to admit a maid must have seen him. Elías keeps up his act and says Omar did the right thing calling him because beyond anything else, Omar is his son and he will always protect him.  Elías believes him but "admits" that the police could be a problem with a "witness" and the "incriminating evidence." Omar is afraid of ending up in  jail for something he didn't do. Elías says he would never allow that to happen and will get him out of the country immediately.  As Omar keeps sobbing, Elías caresses his face and tells him to calm down. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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⦁ Vicente and Natalia continue discussing Magos' age and infirmities while still seated at the uptown restaurant.  They agree that, at this advanced age, she should continue living there at the house with them.  Nata has skirted the cancer angle.

⦁ At the resort, Juanga is very obviously moping after Chole who he's seen passionately mouth-melding with Gustavo.  Magos has Juanga sit with her.  She advises him to give up on the impossible dream woman and look for one who is much more attainable and who can truly appreciate him.

⦁ Back at Constanza's vacation casota, it's lunchtime and the guest list is now whittled down by three.  Connie complains to Teresa about Regina's gross lack of manners and defends her opposition to allowing any hoi polloi, i.e., the brutish barrio rabble, to sit at her table.  Claudio defends Connie's class-conscious social stratification along with Andrea who nods in agreement with each of Constanza's complaints.  Clod says Regi is picking up her mother's bad habits.  Connie says she wouldn't be surprised if Nata ends up becoming Chente's lover.  (Oh, the shame of it all!)

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 Princess Juju is under the weather today. 

Here are a few plot points from last night.  Feel free to add anything you noticed that I didn't.  : )

- Natalia tells Chente she never expected to  hear from Adrián again in her life but now he has called and she knows she will have to confront him. Chente has all the confidence in the world that she will be able to handle the situation.  She can also count on him.

- Olga tries to suck up to Granny Magos who sees right through Olga and tells her that Chente deserves somebody with values and class, somebody who isn't like her.  Natalia is her choice...

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2

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⦁ Natalia is shocked to receive a phone call from Adrien asking for help now that he's been caught. Natalia spurns him and then hangs up on him.  She is an emotional mess.  It's a mystery what a self-serving, self-obsessed, vain man like Adrien is feeling--certainly not remorse, but maybe he can hide behind "change of life" issues.

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We will be pre-empted on Wed. due to soccer.

1.  Chente confronts Granny Magos about what she said not wanting to repeat it lest it become true. Natalia jumps to her defense saying that Granny Magos was just telling her that she was "dying of shame" having to ask her for a favor. Granny Magos plays along asking Natalia to fix her something to eat because she is dying from hunger after being at the doctor. Chente wants to know why she went to the doctor without telling him. He could have given her lift. He is worried something could have happened to her.  Granny Magos makes it clear that she doesn't want to be treated like a useless old woman. Chente wants to know how the visit went. Granny Magos says fine. The doctor says she is like Santa Elena, better each day. Chente wants them to celebrate that they have her with them. 

2. Vale has to re-introduce herself  to Mario who doesn't recognize he at first. He smiles when he realizes who she is. Vale explains how Natalia told her about him being imprisoned and how she felt bad not sorry for him.  She knows that he is innocent. He doesn't want to talk about his problems and tells her how pretty she looks. Vale is pleased.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2

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⦁ It's hand-tp-hand combat as Elias and Vicente fight for control of the pistol Elias has been threatening everyone with.  "--Get out of here unless you want me to whip you out of here with a switch!"  And, true to form, Chente is no "coyone" [cowardly person].  As Andrea and Natalia look on downstairs and Magos worries over the upset Benji, their struggle continues. Finally, Chente wrests the gun from Elias and tells the power-mad and boisterous scoundrel to scat!    "--Realize that Natalia isn't defenseless.  I'm taking responsibility for both her and her daughters."  "--You have made a very powerful enemy!  So you should be the careful one as I can smash you like the flea-ravaged mongrel bastard of the neighborhood that you are." "--Don't threaten me. Because I am capable of forcing you to swallow your very words!  If you try anything against Natalia and her daughters, you'll be dealing with me!" He takes out the bullets from the magazine. "--You were warned." Big bull de Elias tries bullying Chente.  "--I'm not forgetting your happy face.  You've got no idea who you've messed with."  Nata finds her voice.  "--Leave, already!  Get. Out. Of. Here!!!!"  Elias exits in a huff.

⦁ Afterward, Nata thanks Chente.  "--I don't know what I'd have done without you."  She explains he's Omar's papi.  Andi says he's taken his mean to a whole new level.  Chente remarks that Nata's quite capable of defending herself and her family and smiles admiringly of her.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -   Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. Andrea is not impressed by hearing Omar telling her that being left with nothing is the best thing that could have happened to him.  He admits that everything belonged to his father. Now he will be able to build something by himself for both of them.  Nobody can stop him from taking her as his wife. She reaffirms that he left everything for her and that is super incredible BUT what is his plan?  Where and how are they going to live? He says he will get a job and they can rent a cheap place. She asks if he was thinking of renting something like this. He nervously answers  of course he would be looking for something better. He refuses to give up. He is determined to  make it on his own. Andrea rolls her eyes and suggests that they postpone the wedding. He won't hear of it! She asks if it wouldn't it be better to wait just a little while until things get better. He  launches into how they will not change their plans because that would be like giving his father his way and he refuses to do that. She finally gives in and tells him that he is right that the important thing is that they are together. He announces that they will get married and move ahead like everyone else even if they have to begin from zero. It will make their relationship even more solid. Andrea forces a smile.

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⦁ Adrien is thinking of Andrea and their fun times while she was growing up.  He remembers telling her they're two peas in a pod and she knows how to get what she wants.  "--Never forget it!"

⦁ Andi and Natalia have a real mother-daughter chat about how horrible the Hadid's humiliated her, and how Omar had failed to stand up for her or their relationship once again even though they were insulting her and treating her like trash.  So, she asks to move back home.

⦁ At the same time, Vicente is taking down the protest signs hung over the wall.  Omar knocks and states he wants to speak with his girlfriend. Chente says she's speaking with her mother and it is best for now if he leaves them alone.  Omar insists.  Chente says have a seat; they'll be done in a bit.  Chente take a minute to ask why such a hurry to get married.  He politely asks to offer some advice, man to man.  Omar refuses and rudely tells him that he's not part of the family and to stay out of it.  Chente gets just as rude and tells him they are all family under that roof and so he's going to listen whether he likes it or not!  Omar tells him again he has no reason to listen to anything Chente says.  Chente tells him to ditch the attitude.  Then Nata arrives.

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 We pick up the tale . . .

1.  Back on St. Germain, Adrián explains to  Tania that he never married for love, only for money. Natalia was very young and had no idea what to do with the huge fortune that her father left her. His original plan was to get control of the money and leave with it all in a year but then their daughters were born and he postponed his plans to see them grow up. He was trapped for  20 years. As for Tania, she felt invisible growing up. Her brother was the "male child" and the clear favorite. She simply never existed for her parents. Even though she strove to be better than her brother in everything, they never noticed. What she wouldn't give for her parents to see their favorite child in  jail. They would be so disappointed that  they would die again but his time from shame. 

2. At Omar's, Andrea admires her engagement ring and takes selfies with it. 

3. Granny Magos is having breakfast with her two grandsons 2XJosé and JuanGa at Chole's. Granny Magos remarks how lovely Chole  always is unlike others . . . as she sees Olga coming to join them.  Granny Magos informs Olga that she has come to discuss something very serious with her grandsons and asks her if she would be kind enough to leave them alone. Chole drags Olga out of there because it is time to open up the shop! 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (concludes Tuesday at midnight)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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⦁      Gustavo has been seen kissing Chole at the exclusive restaurant he normally frequents when rubbing elbows with the upper cruds...er...crust of society.  Fernanda tells him not to bother explaining (or introducing) Chole to her; it's his wife he needs to explain things to, not her.  They leave.  

⦁ At the same time in another part of the city, Willie meets up with Connie at a different restaurant where they discuss the terms of payment for that 3 million worth of blackmail bucks.  He's considerate enough to allow payments till "every single centavo is paid in full."  And then he makes her pay for the meal before she races off in a huff.

⦁ Natalia tells Vicente he's being released soon but he refuses to call a truce.  He reminds her he shouldn't have been held in a cell--like a common criminal; he's an honest man, not like her husband.  That stings like a slap in the face she wasn't expecting and didn't deserve--and he knows it.  But, she agrees with him that, yes, he is a man like few others.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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1. Claudio offers the small woman at the door a few pesos as charity and refuses to listen to her.  She looks angry as he asks God to bless her and closes the door in her face. 

2. The small woman makes her way down the street, hauling a box along with her, to Chente's store. He greets her as his "granny." They hug and he asks when she drive. Why didn't she say she was coming? 

3. As Natalia and Connie are working on her desserts, Claudio is spiking a cup of coffee for himself in the kitchen. 2XJuan comes by looking for Regina who is at school. 

4. Chente comes in with his Granny Magos demanding to know  who  the miserable person was who didn't allow his Granny Magos  come into his house.  Nobody knows anything and Claudio is silent until Granny Magos points him out. He tries to apologize saying he didn't know but Chente cuts him off  by hitting him hard across the face. Claudio ends up unconscious on the floor with Natalia screaming at Chente not to act like a savage! (anger management classes, anyone?) Chente doubles down insisting that nobody messes with his granny. Teresa is afraid that Claudio is dead! Chente wants her and her husband out of this house NOW! Natalia tells him he cannot throw her mother out. He says he can and gives his tantrum an exclamation mark!!  by pushing all of her dessert preparations off the table and onto the floor.  Natalia stares at him in anger as he stares back. 

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⦁ Adrien and Veronica are worried that Pedro is stalling at investing with them.  He suggests she try seducing him.  "--It's a card I'm will to play."  

⦁ Tania drives into Gustavo's repair shop in Mario's car and says she needs it sold.  She is snippy with Valentina and makes a point of calling Gustavo, who tells her to deal with Tina and he'll see about getting a buyer.  

⦁ Tania is roaming the streets of the barrio and unexpectedly runs into Natalia returning home from shopping.  Tania learns Nata lives in the area and the blue house in particular.  Tania sniggers.  "--How far you have fallen!"  Nata asks after Mario to politely change the subject; Tania says he's suffering after Nata's rejection, even though she warned her brother against falling for a women like her.  "--And, according to you, what kind of woman am I?"  "--The kind whose husbands leave them flat because they're worthless."  Nata lets loose with a slap heard 'round the barrio on testy Tania.  (A communal cheer goes up in Viewerville.  Alas, the elation is too short-lived.)  And of course, Olga The Nosy is watching this from afar.  

⦁ Pedro is playing hard to get.  No business is to be discussed while they're all out on the yacht.  It's his wedding present to Javier and her. Oh....okay.  Well, ok.  "--How about you and I get together for dinner--just you and I alone?"  Perfecto.

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1. Tavo enters the house he shares with Connie and all of the lights are off. He turns on some lights and calls her name as he starts to look for her. 

2. Olga's motor mouth is flying calling Natalia a prostitute being in HER Chente's room. Chente tells her to stop but Olga refuses insisting that she will say what she wants to Natalia. Natalia says she doesn't have to but Olga pushes her back as she tries to leave. Olga accuses her of living there just to get a new husband.  Natalia tells her not to talk to her that way and if she is living there it is because of necessity. Olga answers saying it is clearly her necessity to have a man. Chente tells Olga that is enough. She has no business being in this bedroom. (what about NO business being in this house???) Natalia says she is confused because there seems to have been  something between Chente and Olga. Chente insists there is  nothing  between them. Olga clears it up further by saying there is nothing between them because Chente doesn't want there to be. Olga goes on to reveal herself even further talking about how much she loves him and how long she has been waiting for him. An exasperated Natalia leaves to wait for Chente downstairs and Olga smiles. Chente lets Olga have it saying she cannot treat him like he is her property. She starts to pound on his chest and he grabs her wrists and tells her ENOUGH. In tears she asks him why he can't give HER a chance. She gets free as she tells him she has been his friend in the good times and the very worst times. She warns him that Natalia is only there to take advantage of him. He has had it. It is over. He is going to say goodbye to everyone and he wants her out of his house. She sarcastically says just go ahead and run her off. She tells him "Donde pisa leona no deja huella gata." (A cat cannot leave a footprint  where a lioness has been/ A great woman cannot be replaced by one who isn't.) and that she is going to fight for him. She leaves an angry Chente in his room. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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 ⦁ The barrio's block party is about to begin.  Chole is about ready to leave with Olga who's fibbed that it's to welcome Vicente's new house partners. Valentina arrives to go with them; Chole suggests Vulga lend Tina one of her dresses.  Tina refuses the offer.  She doesn't want to go "looking like an easy lay." 

⦁ Regina takes a moment to show her mother the finished bedroom renovation of the maid's room: all Pretty In Pink.  Natalia mentions that she's decided to sell desserts to The Club if they'll buy them from her.  Regi says it's great to work at something you love and do well, and cooking is her mama's forte.

⦁ Vicente tucks in the soundly sleeping Benji.  He runs into Natalia in the hallway.  Yes, he's duded up since there's a little party he's going to attend.  She's not awake enough to want to go with him.  She's exhausted and going to bed.  

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 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tues through Sat)
• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1.  Chente and Natalia observe each other in their shared jail cell. 

2. A visibly deflated Tavo tells  Chole that he never thought that having a child was important to her. Well, it is. He admits that he always wanted to be a father, too. She doesn't want to pressure him but at their ages. . . She offers him an alternative to sleeping on the couch in his office when Benja goes home.  Tavo wants to do things the right way so when he is legally free, they will be able to show their love for each other  out in the open. They kiss. 

3. Connie arrives home with "just a gigolo"William who ignores her offer of a drink to get hot and heavy with her. An animated Connie  tells him to wait  a second so she can check that her husband isn't  home. Tavo isn't at home so Connie is very open to Will's advances. 

4. Teresa tells her granddaughters to not worry about their mother because Claudio is using his influence with important people to solve the situation.  Regina is worried about her mother. Andrea feels like they have been cursed. Teresa knocks on wood and says not at all.  Their father made unforgivable decisions and that is what has allowed them to end up here.  Regina tells Teresa she can stay with Claudio in her mother's room and that she and Andrea will stay in the maid's quarters. Andrea complains.

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⦁ Chente packs up Natala and family's belongings and sets their three suitcases out on the street.  

⦁ Constanza has returned to her mega manse and all hell has broken loose "--What is that little so-and-so doing in my house??"  Gustavo says "--I dunno.  It was Claudio who brought her here."  Claudio answers her: "I'm staying mum till you call a doctor for her."  Connie the Cruelheart screams again at him to answer.  Claudio is shaking in his boots and explains Valentina was in his trunk when he drove away and was screaming; when he parked the car he found her.  "--Ahuh!  This gal still works in the repair shop, doesn't she, Gustavo???!!!"

⦁ Andrea and Regina return to Chente's and find the gates locked.  Andi reminds him that the house belongs to their mother.  "--No, you're quite mistaken.  The house is mine and you're not coming in again!"  "--Just wait till my mother comes back!  You're going to get it and how!!"  Chente replies we'll see about that!  Juanga, the fug-ugly whistles smugly. 

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 1. Calculating Connie blames her being the hateful woman that she is on Tavo's failure to show her any kind of affection. Is it too much to ask that he love her? He grabs her hand and agrees it isn't too much to ask.  She poisons the moment when she adds that his love is the only thing that can make up for him not being able to give her baby. He withdraws his hand and looks down in guilt as she observes him from behind her "pained" look. 

2. Everyone is at the supper table getting ready to eat as Chente thinks back on happier times when his Lucía was there.

3. Natalia serves the food and Regina tells JuanGa (who has started eating before everyone was at the table and must have served himself before in the kitchen) it is rude to chew with his mouth open (really?). Chente reminds him they are not cavemen.  Natalia makes a point of thanking Chente and his family for allowing her and her family to stay at the house. She acknowledges the very difficult situation that Chente and especially Benja find themselves in  missing Lucía so much. Chente thanks her. She will do whatever she can to be cooperative.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday through Saturday)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. At Benja's silent urging, Chente asks Natalia to stay and talk about a solution  to their problem. Chente offers to make a house payment ahead of time so Natalia has some cash to find a place to stay. JuanGa is less trusting telling him to go ahead and give her payments for  two months  so she can come back with a lawyer and throw him out. Chente  thinks they should just sign the new contract and then he can give her the payment. Natalia cannot accept his offer. 

2. Claudio is leaving some bar drunk as a skunk telling Teresa he is just leaving a  meeting with some colleagues and a government secretary. Martinique awaits them! As he goes to get his car, he finds out it no longer has  a couple of tires, headlights, etc., and is left bawling about Martinique on the street. 

3. Chente and Andrea do not understand why she won't take the deal. After hearing that his place is horrible from Andrea, Chente remarks how her daughter just keeps on offending them. Natalia explains that an early payment does nothing to solve the problems she is facing. She doesn't need a place for a couple of nights. She needs a place to live. This is her house but she is willing to sign the new contract with one condition: they both live in the house.

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 Hi all, below is a quick recap of last night's action:

• First, how cute were the outfits the women wore last night? I loved Natalia's baby blue dress, I have to own Chelo's dress and even Tania's dress was to die for.
• Speaking of Tania, she and Mario go to a notary so that he can transfer his properties to her in order to avoid them being taken by the government, he was also going to transfer what little money he had left to her but he waited too long to do so and his assets were frozen. 
• Tania frets that the government will think she was in on the fraud, oh gosh, why would the government think that dear Tania? Could it be because to everyone it will look like you and your brother were trying to hide assets? As the kids would say, that's suspicious, that's weird.
• Tania tells Mario to run but he refuses to, he is not a criminal and he did nothing wrong. Also, Natalia has his passport.
• Natalia and her daughters leave Mario's home and jump into a taxi but Natalia has no idea where they will go, she makes it clear to her daughters and later to Chente that everyone they know has turned their backs on them, no one will help them.
• Andrea's BIG idea to get out of living in "poverty" is to get her boyfriend to marry her. Yes, teenage marriage is the solution to everything.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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⦁ Tania warns Natalia that if the company cannot resolve the fraud issue, the next best thing for her brother, Mario, is to leave the country.  Mari walks in on the two of them and is surprised to see Nata there.  Nata asks why he's so surprised she is back at the office.  She explains she's gotten a forensic accountant--Enrique--to trace back the accounts and assist them in locating everything.   Tania states she already looked through everything and the others left no trace.  Nobody can find a thing, rest assured!  Mario agrees another set of eyes could probably discover something they all overlooked.  (Especially a forensic accountant doncha think?)  Nata suggests then Tania should probably hand over the necessary passwords to the computer and various accounts so the accountant can get the show on the road already!  Mario asks so why haven't you done that by now?  Tania stalls saying she cannot just go handing out such things willy nilly! "--Besides, I don't take orders from her!"  Mario insists she hand over the passwords then and there.  Trammeling Tania then exits stage right to assist Enrique.

⦁ Across town at Vicente's Auto Parts open-air shop, Olga stops to visit with Chente and to find another way to insert herself....Why wasn't she allowed to join in the fun the night before?  Sorry, just a family thing and Benji is still not talking.  Vulga says she enjoys helping out with the housework and Benji, and sweetly places her hand over his (as Viewerville gets a load of her crazy nail polish).  He pulls away and says he really doesn't want to take advantage of her good will (let alone her willing).  Chente says there's only one woman his child wants to see (and it ain't her) so being ill, her being there will only disturb him more and .....Ugha won't stop insisting...she gives him a hug and says she will remain invisible, only being there when Benji's away at school cuz she only wants to help them both through this difficult time --Somebody throw the dude an oxygen mask and a full tank of O2.  He's being suffocated!  

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 1. As Chente sits down to play a board game with Ben, JuanGa and 2XJosé, Olga comes calling at the gate. A displeased Chente tries to "nicely" get rid of her saying that he and his buddies are playing a board game and physically blocks her from snaking her way in. He adds that they are having "family moment." He thanks her for trying ton help. She gets the message and assures him she will be back again to see if they need anything . . . (sure . . . )

2. Natalia thanks Mario forgiving them a place to stay. He will keep her copy of the criminal complaint she made so her daughters do not see it. He will send a taxi to pick them all up tomorrow and insists on giving her some money for breakfast for her and her children. 

3. Connie puts on the ruby necklace and likes how it looks on her!

4. Andrea has "good" news for her mother. She and Omar made up.  Omar and an apartment in  Polanco and has invited them ALL to come and stay. Natalia tries to explain to  daughter Andrea the Brat that they can to stay there because  The apartment doesn't belong to Omar. It belongs to his father who just kicked them out of their home.  Natalia tells her daughters that they are going to stay with Mario for a few weeks until she can find them a new home. Andrea the Brat voices her disgust asking if she is going to do the same thing with that her father did with Verónica and be lovers with Mario.  Natalia slaps Andrea the Brat. (Yes! I enjoyed it!) 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2**
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

**There is some uncertainty about the offerings for this Tuesday, March 1. According to Zap2It, Hercai will be shown at 10 PM and Pasión will not be shown. However, Telemundo's online program guide indicates that neither program will appear on Tuesday because of President Biden's State of the Union address. Your guess is as good as mine.

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⦁ Claudio is eager to move into Constanza's castle to continue living the highlife.  Teresa refuses to because Connie Cruel Shoes refuses to allow daughter #2 to move in owing to Mama always loved her best or some such thing....However pride gives way to the fact of a paucity of pesos.  Sleep on the street or swallow your pride-- and since pride is something of which Claudio knows nothing, Teresa must eventually give in.

⦁ At the garage, Valentina screams in frustration at Juanga's brainless response to having screwed up the whole front braking system, shock absorbers, discs, hub, bushings, axle, the tire, et al.  How is Juanga planning to pay Gustavo back for the damages to the customer's car? "--Don't act so down in the mouth." He promises to help if it really is that costly.....Sorry, but that kind of STOOPID.  I got no patience with this, and if this is supposed to be humorous or clownish, even less.  I'd have fired this south end of a northbound jackass in a N.Y. minute y punto.

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 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday to Saturday)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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We resume as Natalia validates what her two daughters have just been told by the covetous, and otherwise cattily cruel, Tia Constanza: Daddy has abandoned the three of them all and run off with mama's bestie, La Victoria. (Meeeoooowwwwwwwwwhsssssttt!)

Across town, Vicente holds the wake for his newly deceased and dearly beloved wife of twenty years(?) Lucia.  (Viewerville assumes that they waited over 10 years or so to have at least had Benjamin just 6 years prior.  Otherwise, it may mean that Vicente is a decade younger than Natalia.)  And, while guests pray, Olga merrily gobbles, gorges, gulps or otherwise insensitively ingests a plate of food as the apparently only one there with any appetite.  On the other side of the room, her first cousin and Lucia's best friend, Soledad (Chole), cries with Chente and offers her support to the family.  

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday to Saturday)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2**
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

**Starting this past Monday (Feb. 14), Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2 returned to one-hour episodes, 9-10PM. Season 2 of Pasión de Gavilanes began in the 10-11PM time slot. The second season takes place 20 years after the events of the first season, which aired in 2003. According to a brief account on nbc.com, "Twenty years later, the life of the Elizondo Kings is prosperous and for the most part quiet. But peace does not last forever, because everything is shattered after a murder charge against Eric and León, the 23-year-old twin children of Juan and Norma. This is the first of a series of events that will also affect Oscar and Jimena, also Franco and Sara, and even the new generations of one of the most influential clans in the city of San Marcos, who face challenges that will change their lives." Danna García, Mario Cimarro, Paola Rey, Juan Alfonso Baptista, Natasha Klauss and Michel Brown will return for the second season. Read more »

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):
9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2**
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

**Starting this Monday (Feb. 14), Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2 returns to one-hour episodes, 9-10PM. Season 2 of Pasión de Gavilanes begins in the 10-11PM time slot. The second season takes place 20 years after the events of the first season, which aired in 2003. According to a brief account on nbc.com, "Twenty years later, the life of the Elizondo Kings is prosperous and for the most part quiet. But peace does not last forever, because everything is shattered after a murder charge against Eric and León, the 23-year-old twin children of Juan and Norma. This is the first of a series of events that will also affect Oscar and Jimena, also Franco and Sara, and even the new generations of one of the most influential clans in the city of San Marcos, who face challenges that will change their lives." Danna García, Mario Cimarro, Paola Rey, Juan Alfonso Baptista, Natasha Klauss and Michel Brown will return for the second season. Read more »

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (except Monday)
• 9-11AM -  Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 9-11PM -   Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
 

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 Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (except Monday)
• 9-11AM -  Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 9-11PM -   Hercai:  Amor y Venganza 2
  

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-11AM - ¿Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül? (On UniMás)
9-11PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, pari, telemundo

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-11AM - ¿Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül? (On UniMás)
9-11PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, pari, telemundo

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza
• 9-11AM -  Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 9-11PM -   Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
 
 

Labels: fatmagul, herc, pari, telemundo

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza
• 9-11AM -  Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai:  Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Malverde, El Santo Patrón
  

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series! Seems like Madre is off to a slow start here on Caray, but there is always the opportunity for discussion. Jarifa and Princess Juju are providing recaps for Vencer el Pasado which is in its últimas semanas!!  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNs, it would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7-8PM -   ¿Que le Pasa a Mi Familia? Últimas Capítulos!!

9-10PM –  Vencer el Pasado: Ep. 67-68  Últimas Semanas!!

10-11PM – Madre: Ep. 8-9

Coming: “Soltero Con Hijas” starts on Monday, January 24^th at 8PM!

                 "Mi Fortuna Es Amarte" starts MUY PRONTO!!

Read more »

Labels: madre, pasado, primetime, que-pasa, Univision

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-11AM - ¿Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül? (On UniMás)
9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Malverde: El Santo Patrón
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series! Seems like Madre is off to a slow start here on Caray, but there is always the opportunity for discussion. Jarifa and Princess Juju are providing recaps for Vencer el Pasado which is in its últimas semanas!!  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNs, it would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7-8PM -   ¿Que le Pasa a Mi Familia? Últimos Capítulos!!

9-10PM –  Vencer el Pasado: Ep. 64-66  Últimas Semanas!!

10-11PM – Madre: Ep. 5-7

Coming: “Soltero Con Hijas” starts on January 24^th at 8PM!

Read more »

Labels: madre, pasado, primetime, que-pasa, Univision

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-11AM - ¿Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül? (On UniMás)
9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Malverde: El Santo Patrón
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

**Starting Monday, Jan. 17, Hercai returns to its normal 1-hour time, 9-10 PM!

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo

 Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series! We have a Gran Estreno Week for Madre; let’s hope someone steps up to start the discussion on this dizi! Jarifa and Princess Juju are providing recaps for Vencer el Pasado.  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNs, it would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7-8PM -   ¿Que le Pasa a Mi Familia?

9-10PM –  Vencer el Pasado: Ep. 62-63

10-11PM – Madre: GRAN ESTRENO WEEK!! : Ep. 3-4

Coming: “Soltero Con Hijas” starts on January 24^th at 8PM!

Read more »

Labels: madre, pasado, primetime, que-pasa, Univision

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -   Parientes a la Fuerza
• 9-11AM -   Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 8-10PM -    Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2*
• 10-11PM -  Malverde: El Santo Patrón
  

*Beginning January 17 things should return to more normal programming.  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2 will resume airing for one hour at 9PM.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
 
 

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo

Welcome to page 1 of Primetime TNs/Series! We have a Gran Estreno for Madre on Tuesday; let’s hope someone steps up to start the discussion on this dizi! Jarifa and Princess Juju are providing recaps for Vencer el Pasado.  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNs, it would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7-8PM -   ¿Que le Pasa a Mi Familia?

9-10PM –  Vencer el Pasado: Ep. 59-61

10-11PM – Madre: GRAN ESTRENO!! (on Tuesday)

Coming: “Soltero Con Hijas” starts on January 24^th at 8PM!

Read more »

Labels: madre, pasado, primetime, que-pasa, Univision

Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza*
• 9-11AM -  Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül (on UniMás)
• 8-10PM -  Hercai:  Amor y Venganza 2**
• 10-11PM - Malverde, El Santo Patrón***
  

*Parientes a la Fuerza will be shown this week Tuesday through Friday, but not Monday, January 10. 

Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül will be shown Monday through Friday at 9AM to 11AM, as usual.

**Hercai:  Amor y Venganza 2 will be shown for one hour on Monday, January 10 at 9PM, and the rest of this week will revert to two hour episodes beginning at 8PM.
 
***Malverde, El Santo Patrón will be shown at 10PM every night.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo

Welcome to page 2 of Primetime TNs/Series! Jarifa and Princess Juju are providing recaps for Vencer el Pasado.  As always and PLE-E-EASE!!, if some other brave soul(s) would like to contribute a recap or just some highlights for any of the listed TNs, it would be greatly appreciated. You can also add to or clarify scenes/details, especially those that are favs or not-so-favs. The TNs covered by this page are:

7-8PM -   ¿Que le Pasa a Mi Familia?

9-10PM –  Vencer el Pasado: Ep. 57-58

Coming: “Madre” at 10PM starting Tuesday, January 11^th!

            “Soltero Con Hijas” starts on January 24^th at 8PM!

Read more »

Labels: pasado, primetime, que-pasa, Univision

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-11AM - ¿Qué Culpa Tiene Fatmagül? (On UniMás)
8-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Malverde: El Santo Patrón
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (not on Mondays)

**According to Zap2It, Hercai will have a 1-hour episode (9-10 PM) this coming Monday, January 10. It will resume 2-hour episodes on Tuesday, Jan. 11.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

Labels: fatmagul, herc, malv, pari, telemundo