Caray, Caray!

Hey, JudyB,  a friend baked us some sugar cookies with plenty of butter and multicolored sugar sprinkles on top.  I will be bringing them to the patio tonight. There are lilies of the valley blooming all around. It is so nice that it is lighter longer outside for our viewing convenience! There is nothing like spring. 

1. Natalia catches Olga all decked out and looking like she is ready to go out on the prowl.  She is feeling much better. Natalia suggests that she go to have the doctor check her out first since she was having so much pain earlier. Olga isn't interested. Natalia doesn't think it is such a good idea for her  to go out at night on top of it all. Olga insists she isn't a child. Natalia offers to go with her. Nope, Olga only wants to be left in peace. JuanGa comes in, Olga tries to ignore him and pushes past him on her way out.

2. Tavo says to Chole that he always wanted to be a father; he was dying to be a father.  He starts to explain what happened with Connie but Chole doesn't want to hear.  She says if he doesn't get her pregnant, they can adopt a baby. She asks if he isn't going to put the engagement ring on her finger. He proposes and she accepts. They kiss.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

1-2PM - Hasta que la plata nos separe**
9-10PM - Amor Valiente**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2

**Telemundo has run wild again. After just 9 episodes, Hasta que la plata nos separe has been pulled from the 9 PM slot and relegated to the 1PM slot. Starting today (May 23), Amor Valiente, a new Turkish novela, will run in the 9PM slot. According to Telemundo, it tells the story of Cesur Alemdaroglu, (played by Kivanç Tatlitug), an attractive and enigmatic man, who returns to a small town outside Istanbul with a plan to take revenge on Tahsin Korludag, the murderer of his father. However, his plan for revenge takes an unexpected turn when he falls in love with Sühan Korludag (played by Tuba Büyüküstün), the beautiful daughter of the man who he believes killed his father. This novela has already received international acclaim. Note: do not read Wikipedia's account: it contains spoilers. Read more »

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⦁ Adrian tries to convince Elias to consider the great familial empire that could be theirs once Omar and Andrea get married but it's all futile--even the threats.  There's a ring at the doorbell "--Just in time."

⦁ Vicente and Natalia finally decide on a name for their tavern/bakery.

⦁ Elias has his captive son courtesy of his rent-a-cop mobsters--but it turns out to have been a switch.  Mauricio has been bagged instead of Omi.  Elias is not a happy camper and beats up on  Mau till he learns who was behind the switch and how it happened.

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 Quick Recap because I spent the morning doing chores, cleaning the kitty litter box is never fun.

*Am I the only one that just realized the Natalia's one awful child is the child named after her awful father?* Also, are the cops investigating Olga's attack? I've missed episodes and recaps because life is currently hell.

• Natalia walks in in Olga kissing Chente, Olga tries to blame the kiss on Chente but Natalia tells her she saw everything and finally Olga tells the truth- she forced the kiss on poor Chente and OMG why don't they pack her things and send her on her way what is wrong with them why are they so dumb, I wrote this the way my brain processed it last night. 
• Chente thanks Natalia for trusting him and expresses regret that his actions have led to Olga having to live with them, he is also upset that Natalia had to give up her bedroom to Olga and proposes that they start living as a family and invites her to move in to his bedroom.
• Olga is eavesdropping and almost has a stroke.
• Juan Gabriel made a mistake with the repair of a car that could have caused the car to explode, this makes Tavo fire him.
• Juan Gabriel cries, he lost his job and his woman, what is a guy to do? He needs a job that will value him.

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Hey, JudyB, hope you are settled in and ready for the show.  Save me a seat. I have some chocolates for us to snack on. This looks like this going to be a good episode  tonight. 

1. Olga tells Ben she wants him to be quiet as a "tomb" because if he isn't,  she is going to cut his tongue out and give it to the dogs to eat. He starts to beg her not to as he cries. She covers his mouth and goes on to threaten to put a spell on his Granny Magos if he doesn't behave himself with her. Ben  promises her that he will behave well with her. She says that is good because he now knows what is going to happen. She tells him to stick out his tongue and touches it with her gross fingernail. She repeats that she will cut his tongue out as he begs her not to. She shushes him to be quiet.

2.  At the rooming house, Chole asks Vale how Tavo is doing. She says he is real sad and she knows he misses her. Chole says there are some things that just are not negotiable and this is one of them. Chole explains it isn't because they do not love each other. They want very different things out of life. She wants a family and a baby but hat is the last thing Tavo wants. What really offended her is that he wanted to compensate her by offering her the rooming house and the beauty shop property. Vale sees that as  such a good opportunity to own something. Vale cannot see accepting a house as a gift. Vale suggests that she buy it from Tavo by making monthly payments until she is the owner. Vale has to admit that isn't a bad idea. 

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⦁ Vicente and Natalia agree to take Vicente's reimbursement check from Adrian to buy whatever equipment, tables, and chairs will be necessary for the fonda as an investment.

⦁ Regina informs Andrea over the phone about their needing to leave Chente's house due to Olga's moving in.  Andi says she'll come by in the morning to show them the new house El Wonderful Loving and Repentant Papi bought them. ( Allow me to retch!)

⦁ The next morning Olga puts on a hot pink negligee and sneaks into Chente's bedroom.  She loses it and bawls out, "NO!" when she sees a naked Nata spooning with her beloved.  Nata wakes up and asks what she's doing in there.  "--No!  What are you doing in here, you shameless hussy!"  (Lest Viewerville scream back in vain, "-- Look in the mirror and tell us now what YOU are," we must remember ultimately that La Vulga's emotional elevator does not go all the way to the top.  In fact, if the top is  floors18-20, hers stops at 10-12. )  

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Hey, JudyB, the lilacs are blooming on the patio and their fragrance is permeating the air tonight. We have some lovely blueberry scones with tea or coffee to get comfy with.  Enjoy!

1. Connie continues her harangue criticizing her mother for never being an example for her daughters because she never demanded her rightful place with their father so they could have had his last name. She thinks that the reason that Tere is now supporting Chole  and not her is because she identifies with Chole the whore being "the lover."  Tere must think she is looking in a mirror when she sees her.  Connie sees them as being pathetic because they both are nothing more than a pair of doormats. Tere tells her to shut up and slaps her hard in the face.  Tere stalks off after telling her that she will never forgive her, never. 

2. Still at the park, Natalia and Chente agree with the therapist that the next appointment will be in the office. A new little boy Chucho comes over to play with them. Chente invites Chucho to come to play with them on Chente's team since he needs "the help." In tears, Chucho tells Ben that he is so lucky that he has a father to play with him. His father died. Ben gives him a hug. Chente gets them all to play. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -   Hasta que la plata nos separe
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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⦁ Who is speaking on Omar's phone?  Why it's Veronica, silly! Natalia cannot believe it.  "-- You said you were in Mexico!"  "--Yes.  And instead of coming to our appointment you and your preferred to meet up with Adrian for a reconciliation, right?"  "--How do you know so much about my life?"  "--That's my secret. --You know I never thought you would forgive your husband so easily!.  I thought you had more dignity than that!....Adrian, remember those weekend business trips?  And when you found me sick in bed, Adrian was hiding in the closet.  (Snicker)" Adi awakends from the shock and spits into the phone that every day since running away with her he could kick himself (complains to himself) how he could have ever gotten involved with such a poisonous snake as she! Vero purrs like a kitten..."--just like you said when we were making love....."  Natalia can hardly catch her breath.

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 Hi all, below is your recap:

• Olga continues to fake being a victim, everyone is mad at vicente for leaving her behind, Simba gives her an update on what's going on in the barrio and Olga is convinced that Vicente will now have to be with her FOREVER.
• Simba's like "girl your toxic", he takes his 30,000 pesos and leaves.
• Seriously, everyone feels bad for Olga including Mario and Valentina, Mariois quick to blame Chente, as the conversation progresses Valentina says she wants to go see Felix in prison to give me a piece of her mind!
• Chente finds out the truth- Natalia did not reconcile with Adrian and in fact she spent the night with Andrea and Regina, yes, she and Adrian are getting along a bit better BUT Natalia has made it clear to Adrian that she loves Vicente.
• Vicente realizes he's a dummy and goes looking for Natalia in order to apologize but Teresa tells him he's just like Adrian and to leave Natalia alone.
• The next morning Natalia makes breakfast for everyone, she gets up from the table and tells everyone she agreed to join Adrian for breakfast.
• Adrian shows up and he has a showdown with Vicente. Adrian is a jerk and calls Vicente a dog with fleas! He gets punched for this and I cheered. Adrian does give Chente a check for the money he stole from him, he tells him that with that money he can pay off Natalia and the house will finally be his. Vicente questions whether the check will clear, I'm wondering the same.
• Elias calls Mario, he has a plan to get revenge on Adrian, basically his plan is to trick Adrian into a shady business deal, a deal so juicy that there's no doubt that Adrian will steal from them and when he does they will send him back to prison where he belongs.
• Mario was a busy boy, he also helps Tavo draft the paperwork needed to gift Chole the boarding house and the salon.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hasta que la plata nos separe**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2

**Hasta que la plata nos separe is a new Colombian telenovela that began this week on Tuesday. It stars Sebastián Martínez and Carmen Villalobos. See Wikipedia for a brief plot summary in English.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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 Hey, JudyB, it is hot and muggy on the patio tonight. We went from winter to summer in three days. We have some fresh lemonade  to keep us cool and hydrated.  

1. Chole is at the hospital to visit Olga who keeps turned away so her cousin can't see what she looks like. She doesn't want anyone to touch her. As Chole asks what happened, Olga turns to show her battered face and says she was with Chente at an out of the way place far from there. He started to fight with her because of Natalia. Then he left her there all alone. She asked him not to leave but he didn't pay any attention to her.  She started to walk hoping somebody would pick her up or maybe get a taxi. A cargo truck stopped and offered to take her to the city. It was early morning. She was cold. It turned out to be her worst nightmare. 

2. Knowing what he knows, Chente doesn't know what he is going to do about Natalia. She is in his blood. He is at the point of tears but doesn't want Ben to see him like he is. Tavo is feeling the same way about his Chole. Chente advises him to tell Chole the truth. She is understanding and Chente is sure they will find happiness with or without a child. Tavo doesn't want to ruin her life like he did to Connie. 

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Just as Natalia is waiting for Vicente to get his truck back to take her to the supposed rendezvous point with Veronica, Andrea races in and begs her mother to come with her for something extremely important-and no she cannot discuss it there.  Natalia agrees and balks when she sees the limousine parked outside to take her, Regina, and Andrea to meet Adrian.

Once they arrive, they see a sign with "Forgive me" and flowers.  Adi goes on bended knee and begs forgiveness and a new chance to join the family again.  Regi is convinced--not a good sign for the good guys--so we wonder if Nata is....  

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 Hey, JudyB, it is heating up here this week but tonight is still nice and cool.  It is particularly windy so hold onto your coffee and pan dulce. Hope you enjoy the assortment I got at the panadería. 

1. While Natalia is out with Fernanda, Chente and Ben are making a delivery of her tortillas españolas in the neighborhood. The  vendor has bad news for Chente. The novelty of the tortillas españolas has worn off and they are not selling.  He will take one of the tortilla españolas instead of the five he ordered  but if that doesn't sell, the deal is off. 

2. 2XJosé and Regina talk about plans for vacation time from school and what they can do together. She wants to do more with her channel like really helping people. They decide to start today. 

3. At the club, Sami sees Fernanda and Natalia together and decides to join them uninvited.  She sees them laughing and all smiles. She asks why is going on. Fernanda says it is something between friends. Samia reminds them she is a friend, too.  Anyway, she knows that Natalia has so much to tell her. Natalia turns serious and asks about what? Samia says she heard there was a new romance. Fernanda remarks how quickly good news flies. Samia asks how long has it been since she has been going out with that  . . . (she crinkles her nose in disgust) Chente. Natalia says it has been couple of weeks and sarcastically adds that if Samia didn't hear that, they didn't tell her all of the gossip. Samia says she has plenty of time to hear the whole story! 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2** (ending Monday)
9-10PM - Hasta que la plata nos separe** (starting Tuesday)
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2**

**Hercai has a 2-hour gran final on Monday, from 9-11 PM, followed on Tuesday by a 2-hour debut episode of a new Colombian telenovela, Hasta que la plata nos separe (Til Money Do Us Part). It will star Sebastián Martínez and Carmen Villalobos. Thus, Pasión de Gavilanes will not be shown on Monday or Tuesday. Here is a brief plot summary from Wikipedia: "Rafael Méndez (Sebastián Martínez) is an ethical and noble man who dedicates his life to selling household items and is dating his neighbor Vicky Pardo (Juliette Pardau). Alejandra Maldonado (Carmen Villalobos) is a successful businesswoman and manager of the Ramenautos car dealership, she is engaged to Luciano Valenzuela (Gregorio Pernía). Rafael and Alejandra suffer a car accident that will trigger a series of events that will bring them closer. Rafael must pay off the debt he has left Alejandra with after the accident and this closeness will lead them to fall in love despite their social differences. However, circumstances and their respective families and partners will do everything possible to prevent their love from happening." Read more »

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         [Doesn't he look familiar?  It's been driving me crazy till now.  V for Vendetta... or Guy Fawkes...or  Adrian?] 

 Natalia tries explaining to know-it-all 17 year-old Andrea that a person doesn't change his stripes overnight.  She doesn't believe that Adrian is truly remorseful; she doesn't need or want his "support money" to live at the level to which she was once accustomed.  Nopers.  If she gets a home like the one she had again it will be due to her own efforts, by the sweat of her own brow.  Andi shuts up for a while.  (Viewerville finds Andi's affected use of English words sprinkled in amongst her chatty-Cathy speech truly irritating, disconcerting, and senseless.  Is this a character affectation or that of Univision's?) Nata states she cannot deny her from renewing her relationship with her father.  He's a fact of her life.  But Nata wants nothing more to do with him and nothing more from him; Andi needs to respect her wishes.  No more errands or messages from him through her.

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 Not too much happened last night, below are the highlights:

• Adrian and Chente square off, Adrian is of the opinion that Natalia is on the rebound and desperate, that's the only reason she could be dating someone like Chente (I missed some of this scene but this is the best I could get). Chente has to stop himself from hitting Adrian and eventually kicks him out of the house.
• It's 2022, Natalia and Chente would be wise to invest in a ring camera.
• We get great news, Magos is going to make a full recovery! The tumor was not cancerous! 
• Magos can tell that things between Tere and Claudio have gotten worse, Tere tells her she just learned some very delicate information that Claudio withheld from her.
• Andrea visits Natalia, she tries to give her an envelope full of money, Natalia asks her where the money is coming from and eventually Andrea has to admit that Adrian gave her the money to give to Natalia, Natalia refuses the money.
• The boys (Donovan, Simba, Octavio and Mario) show up at the nightclub where Valentina is being held hostage by Felix, they leave Mario and Donavan in the car while Tavo and Simba go in to the club.
• Simba has found his natural habitat, he fits right in at the brothel/night club.
• Valentina spots Tavo and Simba, she pretends not to know them and goes to serve them some drinks, they tell her they are there to rescue her but she tells them to leave, Felix had previously told Valentina that if she made a run for it he would kill Mario.
• Tavo and Simba are approached by felix, he welcomes them to the club. Tavo asks to hire Valentina for a private party, Felix says no way, that girl does not leave the club, Tavo insists and Felix kicks them out of the club.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.   Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement,this group DOES NOT DISCUSS previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!
 
 

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 Hey, JudyB,  hope you are keeping warm with the throws on the chairs on the patio tonight. We have  hot herbal tea and some butter cookies for tonight's episode.  Hope you see me waving at you!   ; ) 

1. A crying Regina tells Chente how lucky Ben is to have a father like him and not one like Adrián but what she really wants to know is if he loves her mother. He says he adores her. She says if that is the case, she wants him to swear to her that he will not hurt her, get bored with her and throw her aside for somebody else. Chente sees being with her a privilege, a gift from God. After his wife died, he could never see himself falling in love with another woman but her mother showed him that life goes and love can come knocking at your door again. He seriously promises that he will not do anything to make her mother sad. He wants to dedicate every day of his life to making her happy. 

2. In Acapulco in the room in which he has her imprisoned, Félix is arguing with Vale.  He thinks that she is in love with Mario.   She insists she is not in love with Mario. He doesn't believe her. She wants to be let go and doesn't want Mario hurt either. He grabs her around the neck and tell her to get it straight in her head. She is going to be staying there to be his  alone and she needs to know that  he is the one she loves the most.  He throws her on the bed before he leaves. Vale picks up some junk from the floor and hurls it at the locked door. 

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 [This is only a few high points as not a lot happened and I truly couldn't get much of the gutter slang.-edit.]

• Dona Magos makes it out of surgery after hours of waiting and praying.
• Taking Ver at her word, Olga finds her some extra cash by selling Valentina out to Felix.
• Felix waits till dark and kidnaps Tina from the boarding house.  She mouths "--Ayudame" through the car window to Simba who snickers and ignores it as they drive off.  He later brags about that to Vulga and complains the money isn't enough by a longshot.
• Mario makes it back to the boarding house and sees the destruction all over the floor and the mess in Tina's bedroom.  He raises the alarm to the others, insuring they realize he was a cellmate of Felix who had a hell of a grudge.

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 Hey, JudyB, looks like we are down to jelly beans for tonight so what I can say for sure is that this episode was much better than the snacks! 

1. Granny Magos is in her room with Ben who is coloring. She is in a great deal of pain. There is knocking at the door and Ben goes down see who it is. It is Olga who has come to see his father. Ben runs away from her and tries to hide from her under the coffee table. Olga can't believe they would've left him all alone. She calls out to Chente and Granny Magos. There is no answer.  She stomps loudly and drags Ben out from his hiding place.  She holds him in place and asks him if he is happy that his father is with that old lady. Ben nods. She take delight in informing him that she is going to do the same to her that she did to his mother. She torments him showing him a picture of his mother and telling him how she killed his mother by using witchcraft. Ben starts crying and trying to get a hold of the picture as she pushes him around. She adds that she has used her black magic on Granny Magos so she would get sick and end up like his mother. She grabs his face so she can deliver her warning up close and personal. If he  continues behaving badly, she is going to do the same thing to  Natalia for getting in between her and his father. As he continues crying, she asks how he likes that. He continues to cry in terror.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post so readers can easily find the conversation they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production.  Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin.  This includes references to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel.  Thanks for your cooperation!

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⦁ Andrea, of course, scolds--nay, lays a major guilt trip on-- her mother for not being anywhere near while she was contemplating killing herself by jumping off the nearest bridge.  (Viewerville is screaming that she chose to leave the shack to live with her aunt in the huge manse, choosing to remain incognito all this while.) 

⦁ Down the street outside the garage, Juanga and his mechanic compatriots are having a wake for Juanga's failed relationship with Olga.  The others bid farewell and good riddance as they share a couple of 40 ouncers with Juanga who is literally crying in his beer.  (Viewerville swallows a trago or two along with Tavo and Tina.  ¡Salud y hasta nunca, naca!)  We agree with Darius, "Some people will never change...i.e., it was to be expected (from Vulga).  Tina emphasizes what was obvious for the rest of us: "--She was just playing with you.  Good riddance. She was using you to get to Chente."  Simba walks by to rub salt on the wound.  "--She dumped you cuz you're a dumbass!"  

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 Hi all, here's your recap!

The important stuff:

Natalia and Chente announce that they are seeing each other, everyone is happy for them, well not Olga and not Mario, those two are not happy bunnies. Natalia and Chente give Benjamin the news and he's over the moon- Regina not so much but she seems to come around a little when Benjamin asks her if she wants to be his sister.

Olga is fuming, she calls Veronica and tells her she wants Natalia dead- Veronica wants to know how much money it would take to make that happen, Olga seems surprised that Veronica is also on the kill Natalia team. Veronica tells her to find out how much it would cost, they will pay the hitman half up front and half when the job is done, does Olga know someone who could do the job? Enter Simba. Bro, why would you trust someone with that hair to do ANYTHING? ANYTHING AT ALL? Simba agrees to do it but he has one condition: Olga has to break up with Juan Gabriel.

Olga marches into Tavo's shop and tells Juan Gabriel that she's been using him, she still loves Chente, will only ever love Chente and their relationship is over. My nephew from the couch says "bro she's mean, she didn't have to do him like that".

Adrian has a busy day with the Hadad's, first he visits Elias, he has a new business plan that involves money laundering, if Elias agrees to work with him they will make millions, it's better that they work together than be enemies. Elias agrees. Later Adrian meets up with Samia for a nice chat over some wine, he tells her that he's going to get Natalia back because she belongs to him, and after all he's not the first man to stray away from home. Samia agrees, he's not the first, nor will he be the last, however, he did leave his wife on the night for their anniversary and ran off with her best friend and that's unforgivable. 

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation. Since discussions of all the novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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 Hey, JudyB, it looks like early spring/late winter weather is continuing on the patio. We have the heat lamps out tonight to go with our oversupply of Cadbury eggs and carrot cake. Hot chocolate is on tonight! Keep cozy!

1. Natalia leaves Chente speechless as she comes down in her formal blue dress.  A smiling Ben watches  them from  under a coffee table. She tells him he looks exceptionally handsome as she fingers his shirt.His suit and shirt suit him so very well. She also loves the cologne he used but nothing can compare to his smile. He thinks she is the most beautiful woman he has ever seen in his life.   She thanks him for being a gentleman. He thanks her. They leave arm in arm.  Ben prays  that his father and Natalia get together. 

2. As Mario and Connie are still bickering about the shop and rooming house and Mario's "attack of compassion."  Connie asks if he thinks handing over the property to Tavo will get him into heaven? He doesn't think so. She agrees. Regina and Connie come in telling Connie there is a change of plans. They have to take the surprise party to Natalia's place. Connie does not look pleased. 

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 Ah, the life of a blogger. . . . technical difficulties get even the best of us. That being the situation, I am  posting a discussion page on behalf of Jardinera for this episode. 

Here are a few notes from tonight's episode:

-Adrián tells Natalia that Vero set him up. Natalia is not interested in getting back with him. He insists that he will not give up trying to win her back.

-The sample offerings of Natalia's tortillas españolas in the barrio goes well in spite of her not being there.

-Adrián becomes aware of Natalia's new business and her two partners during  Regina's live stream covering the event. 

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 Hey, JudyB, tonight it is left-over solid chocolate bunnies: milk chocolate, dark chocolate and white chocolate on the patio. I will make sure we have some hot coffee to go with them. Take good care and we will see you on the patio!

1. Tavo is unwilling to spend years in litigation with Connie. He only wants the property that his parents left him. Tavo's request does not go over well since Connie doesn't like the fact that his suggestion includes the  rooming house he wants for his lover.  She doesn't care if Chole and the renters end up living  under a bridge.  If he hasn't noticed, SHE is doing just fine.  He disagrees reminding her she is all alone. Connie corrects him.  She is not alone but  in the process of getting exactly what she has always wanted.

2. Chente has put on a crisp white shirt and black pants. He asks for Ben's approval and gets it as he finishes off his look with a black suit coat. He asks Ben how he looks and if Natalia is going to whistle at him when she sees him. Ben smiles and nods eagerly.  

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2

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⦁ Mario offers to front the fonda [little tavern/inn] serving simple neighborhood favorites that Natalia and Teresa were thinking of starting.  He'd be the silent partner.  Nat likes the idea but says she thinks the best place to locate it is there in the house.  She needs to see what Vicente thinks, though.  

⦁ Andrea receives a number of bags of baby and maternity clothes.  She rudely tells the maid to take them to her aunt as they don't belong to her.

⦁ Chente walks in and wants an explanation.  Mario asks him to listen closely to what Nat has to say.  "--Sure, sure. I know to speak to the head of the circus, not to the clown. (We all know who he's talking about....) She informs him that since she hasn't any cash to rent a space she's going to put the restaurant there in the house.  "--My house?"  "--Our house!"  

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 Here's your recap:

• We start back up where we left off yesterday, Regina has slapped the living daylights out of Juan Gabriel, he totally deserved it. Regina leaves and finds Pepe Pepe, he tells her that he thinks Chente is in love with Natalia, Regina leaves in a huff.
• Natalia has a hard day, she has to deal with Adrian who is still trying to convince her that he's changed, Natalia is smart and she tells him that she will never, ever, ever believe a word he says. As the Taylor Swift song goes: We are never ever getting back together.
• Susana Gonzales is rocking that blue outfit, she looks so elegant.
• The next thing she has to deal with is trying to sell her baked goods to the hospital (I think) but the woman that makes the decisions around there refuses to work with her on the basis that Adrian is a rat bastard. 
• Elias visits Constanza, he's worried about her sudden interest in the baby, she tells him Andrea is her niece and that it's normal for her to worry about the baby and Andrea.
• Elias tells Andrea and Constanza that if the little bastard is male and truly is his grandchild he will be seeing a lot of the two women.
• Constanza and Andrea go to the car dealership to buy a car. It's a new "sell your baby for a car" program.
• In London Omar is feeling pretty crappy on account that he thinks he killed a girl but his lil heart says there's no way he could have done that, Veronica is there trying to make him feel better.
• Speaking of Veronica she totally killed Tania, she poisoned her before they were to leave for the airport, I mean on the bright side she didn't have to deal with TSA, so there's that.
• Natalia comes home and Tavo shows up a few seconds later, he asks to speak with her, he wants her to talk to Constanza and convince her to give him the divorce without having to go to trail, all he wants is his shop and the building that Chole rents rooms from, Natalia does not want to get involved. bro, how does Tavo expect Constanza to listen to Natalia when she hates her? He is one dumb bunny.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

 NOTE:  Hercai 2 and Pasión de Gavilanes will be preempted by music awards Thursday 4/21/22.

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Hey, Judy, stay dry on the patio. We have tons of left over Easter candy. Tonight it is chocolate covered marshmallow eggs.

 1. Claudio reminds Mario that Adrián didn't only betray him as a partner but he also took the woman he was going to marry. Mario thinks that now he is actually grateful that he avoided marrying a woman like Vero. He also thinks that Adrián suspects he fell in love with Natalia. Claudio chokes on his drink as he proclaims: Sacre bleu!

2. JuanGa and 2XJosé are upset with Granny Magos who is in bed but did not tell them how ill she was. Granny Magos said that she didn't want to tell them because she didn't want to fill the house with tears and sadness. 2XJosé  says will do whatever she wants. She make sit clear that she  only needs two things. In the first place, she wants Juanga to cancel his wedding. JuanGa dissolves in tears as he whines on about how much he loves Olga and how he wants her to be the mother of his five kids. She tells him to put off the wedding because only time will tell where things are going with Olga.  As for 2XJosé, she wants him to be the first Ramírez to get a university degree. 2XJosé agrees that is exactly what he intends to do. He wants to have that diploma hanging on the wall in the living room where it will look really good. He tells her she has to get well so he can show it off to her. She asks them for a hug and they both join her on the bed to hug and all cry together. 

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 Sorry, patio peeps.  No time to do the page for last night's episodio.  The only  a few things of great importance is that Natalia admitted to Magos that she's in love with Vicente, Felix is in the barrio searching for Mario but got the wrong address as given by Claudio to Adrian.  Valentina's seen him outside the garage and avoided him seeing her by doing a wonderous liplock on Mario.  Clod's also warned Mario that Adrian wanted his address and since he doesn't trust Adrian he gave out a false one.  Omar got out of a motel room bed and Veronica was in the other room rushing him to get dressed.  Samia told Constanza that Elias has had a change of heart so that if the baby is a boy and is Omar's he will inherit and be responsible for the kid.  Conz spit nails at Sam for even considering this.  She's raising the kid and ain't nobody else to stick their honker noses into it.

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Thanks to RgvChick, we know that our novela will start FIVE minutes early on Wed. 

Hey, JudyB, there is hot coffee on the patio tonight with some donuts to keep the chill out.  Sending healing thoughts your way. 

Jarifa

 1. After the slap and as Natalia demands to know why Olga sent her daughter to an abortion provider, Olga starts to fight back. As she goes to hit Natalia, Natalia grabs her arm and tells her not to dare touch her. Juanga grabs Olga to keep her under control. Olga changes the subject and tells Natalia that she is a fine one to talk when she is the one with the bad reputation that she got all by herself chasing after Chente. As Mario watches on, Natalia tells her she doesn't have to explain to anyone about anything she does in her personal life. As Juanga tries to defend Olga,  Natalia warns him to mind his own business.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

NOTE:  Hercai 2 and Pasion de Gavilanes will be preempted by music awards Thursday 4/21/22.

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Parte 1~

⦁ So Elias has come to the jail to complain to Adrian about the sudden turn of affairs: he's learned that Adi arranged a deal with Piedro to purchase shares in Elias's company from Pedro.  So now, Adi has effectively used the money he embezzled from Elias and others to buy 30% ownership of Elias Hadad's company.  Adi remarks "-- a nice bit of irony, isn't it?"  Eli yells at him that it's a low-down dirty trick but Adi kicks away his chair in a fit of temper and screams back what's low-down and dirty is what he did to his daughter.  "--Andrea is a social climber!"  Adi grabs Eli by the collar.  "--Watch your mouth you dog!  I'm going to get back what Veronica stole from me!  And you better than anyone knows that money is power.  This guard and various others are on my payroll.  I could smash your damned head in and nobody would bother to stop me.  But, don't worry.  I wouldn't think of hurting my new business partner."  

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 Hi peeps, here's your recap:

• Andrea wants to get an abortion but because she's a minor she needs parental permission and she knows Natalia would never agree, she confides in Olga who recommends that she go to a clinic that Kimberly went to once, they don't ask any questions! Tell me you want to die without telling me you want to die.
• Constanza tries to get Mario to agree to receive all of her assets in order to hide them from her husband, she straight up tells Mario that he's an idiot but he's an honest idiot.
• Natalia and Chente share a romantic night, they drink and he serenades her- they KISS! 
• Meanwhile Tere and Magos get wasted on either mezcal or tequila, whatever it was it made the ladies have a very good time, a drunk Teresa confesses to Mago's that she only married Claudio out of fear of being alone but she never loved him, her one true love was her dead husband. Isn't awful what women will settle for just for fear of being alone?
• Claudio walks in on the women and comments on what a mistake it was to drink so much- Tere tells him that the only mistake she's made was marrying him.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2

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Hey, JudyB, it is windy and rainy on the patio tonight. Keep warm and comfy. Sending good thoughts your way.  

Jarifa

1.Chente appears on the road in Valle de Bravo. Natalia is so happy see him that she runs into his arms. Chente looks like he knows this is who he belongs with. Chente assures her it is all going to  be fine and he is there to help her. She pulls away and says how embarrassed she is to have brought him all the way out there. He smiles and says she would have done the same for him. He goes for his toolbox as she tells him how the car was running fine until she heard a little noise and suddenly there was smoke coming out from under the hood.  Later she found out that her cellphone was dead. He confidently says he is sure it will be something very easy to fix and investigates under the hood.

2. Ben continues to flee in terror still hearing the gunshots as Regina and 2XJosé decide to look for him one last time before calling the police.  

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[This may not be in the same order as presented....--ed.]

⦁ At breakfast Magos once again encourages Vicente to pursue Natalia; he shouldn't let her get away. "Happiness is knocking at the door."  He should open that door and welcome it in.  Just then Nata walks into the room with Benji.  The two of them look so right together.  "--We overslept.  Ready for breakfast?"

⦁ At the rooming house, Jose Jose tells Juanga he's not so sure that his brother should be getting married to Olga.  Dating her is enough, but the thought of marriage is really a disgustingly ridiculous idea.  Juanga says Jojo is just upset cause he hasn't managed to get Regina to take the bait.  Take care of his own romantic life before complaining about his.

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 Hey, JudyB, 

I see you out on the patio. It is still a little chilly so stay close to a heat lamp. Hope you enjoyed this episode.

Jarifa

1. Tavo and Chole disappear into the boarding house kissing all the while. 

2. Natalia wants to know why Regina has decided to leave the house when she thought  everything was okay. Regina explains it is because of Andrea who is not doing well at all. Natalia insists that Andrea must need her, too, so she should be looking for a new place for the three of them to stay. Regina has to tell her mother one more time that Andrea is not leaving her aunt's house but maybe Natalia could help watch over her while she is expecting. A tearful Natalia explains she is trying to understand but she cannot deal with the fact that her little girls are leaving. She asks if Connie agrees with her coming to stay with her sister. Regina says Connie doesn't know  yet but she doesn't care because she is not going to leave Andrea alone. Natalia grabs her and kisses her on the head. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2**
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2**

**On Wednesday, April 13, there's a one-day schedule change. As usual, Zap2It and Telemundo's program guide disagree about the specifics. According to Zap2It, on Wednesday Hercai will be shown at 10PM and Pasión will not be shown. However, Telemundo's program guide claims that both telenovelas will be pre-empted by fútbol. Your guess is as good as mine. Both sources agree that everything goes back to normal on Thursday.

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⦁ Natalia is a bit redfaced after Vicente tells her she is right to move out as soon as possible.  She says she only needs a couple of weeks to find a place she can afford.  Although Mario has offered to help her out...--Chente mocks her and says that she'd rather have Mario's help; she insists it was Mario's idea since he'd helped her earlier right after Adrien had first abandoned her and the girls.  However, she's refusing it again because she just doesn't feel comfortable with him.  So, that's why she had thought to remain there in the house.  And, Chente realizes that he's stuck his foot in it again with Natalia.  

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Hi Patio peeps, here's the recap for last night's episode:

• Chente and Mario are selling pastries, Mario is offering returning clients a 20% discount.
• Juan Gabriel asks Chente for a loan, he's taking Olga out and needs a thousand pesos, he also takes some cakes so Chente deducts 200.00 pesos from the money he gives Juan Gabriel, Juan Gabriel says that for Olga he will finally get his life in check. 
• William is in mortal danger (not!), Nestor is holding him at knife point but he's no match for William who disarms him and gets him to confess that Constanza sent him, William is livid.
• Why would you send Nestor to take out William, the guy barely looks like he does cardio, and worst of all he didn't even wear a mask, and with his hair anyone could pick him out of a lineup.
• William drives off like a crazy person and crashes his car...is he dead? 
• Andrea is getting settled in at Constanza's house, she has a new cell phone but all she wants is to find out where Omar is, she asks Connie to call Samia to get information on the missing Omar.
• Natalia calls Samia, Samia tells her that Omar was upset about Andrea hiding her pregnancy and that Elias convinced him to return to London to finish his degree, Andrea is crushed and says she wants to die.
• Natalia tries to comfort her but Andrea is a monster and blames her for everything that's going on. 

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 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. Connie makes it clear to Samia that an abortion isn't in the cards for her niece.

2. At his office in the garage, Tavo is expressing his regrets to Chole that Connie will not give him a divorce. Chole says they knew it was never going to be easy with Connie. Tavo also has something to tell Chole before they take the first step. He only hopes that after he is honest, that she won't cut him out of he life. Before he can say anymore, he is interrupted by noise from the garage. 

3. JuanGa is fighting with Simba and Tavo breaks them up.  Evidently Simba was telling them all about what  he had going on with Olga once upon a time before JuanGa. Olga denies it all and tries to attack Simba, too. One of the other workers starts to complain about how lazy and dishonest Simba is.  Tavo has had it with Simba and fires him on the spot. Simba threatens him with telling Connie about Chole. Tavo refuses to be intimidated. 

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⦁ Omar has escaped from Papi Elias and driven over to Constanza's to speak to Andrea about a change in plans.  Conniving Connie refuses to let him speak with her.  She tells him Andi never wants to hear from him again.  He insists on hearing it directly from Andi. Nopers.  So he starts screaming for Andi at the top of his lungs.  Connie threatens to call the police.  Ruh-roh!! He behaves but insists and tries explaining.  (It's a good try, but Connie's way ahead of him here.)   He says he's leaving the country and needs to explain why. "--And the wedding?"  "--There's been an emergency." "-- insist after those disgusting pictures of you kissing that prostitute!  Yes, my niece has proof! And, I suppose you spent the night with her also, or am I wrong?  She wants nothing more to do with you.  Don't come here again."  He gets the door in his face.  

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 1. A smiling  Natalia enters the kitchen as Mario and Chente continue to argue about who can provide Natalia with what she needs with Mario informing Chente that  he has arrived to put things in order. Natalia tells Mario how elegant he looks in his pj's. Mario snaps back that he feels ridiculous. Chente can see that because he doesn't have the "muscle" to fill them out.  Natalia notices the breakfast that Mario has made for them and asks Chente if he wouldn't agree that it is just lovely. Mario smirks and an infuriated Chente bites his tongue. 

2. Elias tells his  hysterical son not to worry because he has been working on  keeping him safe from the law. Elías asks Omar if anyone saw him leaving the room. Omar has to admit a maid must have seen him. Elías keeps up his act and says Omar did the right thing calling him because beyond anything else, Omar is his son and he will always protect him.  Elías believes him but "admits" that the police could be a problem with a "witness" and the "incriminating evidence." Omar is afraid of ending up in  jail for something he didn't do. Elías says he would never allow that to happen and will get him out of the country immediately.  As Omar keeps sobbing, Elías caresses his face and tells him to calm down. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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⦁ Vicente and Natalia continue discussing Magos' age and infirmities while still seated at the uptown restaurant.  They agree that, at this advanced age, she should continue living there at the house with them.  Nata has skirted the cancer angle.

⦁ At the resort, Juanga is very obviously moping after Chole who he's seen passionately mouth-melding with Gustavo.  Magos has Juanga sit with her.  She advises him to give up on the impossible dream woman and look for one who is much more attainable and who can truly appreciate him.

⦁ Back at Constanza's vacation casota, it's lunchtime and the guest list is now whittled down by three.  Connie complains to Teresa about Regina's gross lack of manners and defends her opposition to allowing any hoi polloi, i.e., the brutish barrio rabble, to sit at her table.  Claudio defends Connie's class-conscious social stratification along with Andrea who nods in agreement with each of Constanza's complaints.  Clod says Regi is picking up her mother's bad habits.  Connie says she wouldn't be surprised if Nata ends up becoming Chente's lover.  (Oh, the shame of it all!)

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 Princess Juju is under the weather today. 

Here are a few plot points from last night.  Feel free to add anything you noticed that I didn't.  : )

- Natalia tells Chente she never expected to  hear from Adrián again in her life but now he has called and she knows she will have to confront him. Chente has all the confidence in the world that she will be able to handle the situation.  She can also count on him.

- Olga tries to suck up to Granny Magos who sees right through Olga and tells her that Chente deserves somebody with values and class, somebody who isn't like her.  Natalia is her choice...

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2

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⦁ Natalia is shocked to receive a phone call from Adrien asking for help now that he's been caught. Natalia spurns him and then hangs up on him.  She is an emotional mess.  It's a mystery what a self-serving, self-obsessed, vain man like Adrien is feeling--certainly not remorse, but maybe he can hide behind "change of life" issues.

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We will be pre-empted on Wed. due to soccer.

1.  Chente confronts Granny Magos about what she said not wanting to repeat it lest it become true. Natalia jumps to her defense saying that Granny Magos was just telling her that she was "dying of shame" having to ask her for a favor. Granny Magos plays along asking Natalia to fix her something to eat because she is dying from hunger after being at the doctor. Chente wants to know why she went to the doctor without telling him. He could have given her lift. He is worried something could have happened to her.  Granny Magos makes it clear that she doesn't want to be treated like a useless old woman. Chente wants to know how the visit went. Granny Magos says fine. The doctor says she is like Santa Elena, better each day. Chente wants them to celebrate that they have her with them. 

2. Vale has to re-introduce herself  to Mario who doesn't recognize he at first. He smiles when he realizes who she is. Vale explains how Natalia told her about him being imprisoned and how she felt bad not sorry for him.  She knows that he is innocent. He doesn't want to talk about his problems and tells her how pretty she looks. Vale is pleased.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2

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⦁ It's hand-tp-hand combat as Elias and Vicente fight for control of the pistol Elias has been threatening everyone with.  "--Get out of here unless you want me to whip you out of here with a switch!"  And, true to form, Chente is no "coyone" [cowardly person].  As Andrea and Natalia look on downstairs and Magos worries over the upset Benji, their struggle continues. Finally, Chente wrests the gun from Elias and tells the power-mad and boisterous scoundrel to scat!    "--Realize that Natalia isn't defenseless.  I'm taking responsibility for both her and her daughters."  "--You have made a very powerful enemy!  So you should be the careful one as I can smash you like the flea-ravaged mongrel bastard of the neighborhood that you are." "--Don't threaten me. Because I am capable of forcing you to swallow your very words!  If you try anything against Natalia and her daughters, you'll be dealing with me!" He takes out the bullets from the magazine. "--You were warned." Big bull de Elias tries bullying Chente.  "--I'm not forgetting your happy face.  You've got no idea who you've messed with."  Nata finds her voice.  "--Leave, already!  Get. Out. Of. Here!!!!"  Elias exits in a huff.

⦁ Afterward, Nata thanks Chente.  "--I don't know what I'd have done without you."  She explains he's Omar's papi.  Andi says he's taken his mean to a whole new level.  Chente remarks that Nata's quite capable of defending herself and her family and smiles admiringly of her.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 9-11PM -   Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. Andrea is not impressed by hearing Omar telling her that being left with nothing is the best thing that could have happened to him.  He admits that everything belonged to his father. Now he will be able to build something by himself for both of them.  Nobody can stop him from taking her as his wife. She reaffirms that he left everything for her and that is super incredible BUT what is his plan?  Where and how are they going to live? He says he will get a job and they can rent a cheap place. She asks if he was thinking of renting something like this. He nervously answers  of course he would be looking for something better. He refuses to give up. He is determined to  make it on his own. Andrea rolls her eyes and suggests that they postpone the wedding. He won't hear of it! She asks if it wouldn't it be better to wait just a little while until things get better. He  launches into how they will not change their plans because that would be like giving his father his way and he refuses to do that. She finally gives in and tells him that he is right that the important thing is that they are together. He announces that they will get married and move ahead like everyone else even if they have to begin from zero. It will make their relationship even more solid. Andrea forces a smile.

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⦁ Adrien is thinking of Andrea and their fun times while she was growing up.  He remembers telling her they're two peas in a pod and she knows how to get what she wants.  "--Never forget it!"

⦁ Andi and Natalia have a real mother-daughter chat about how horrible the Hadid's humiliated her, and how Omar had failed to stand up for her or their relationship once again even though they were insulting her and treating her like trash.  So, she asks to move back home.

⦁ At the same time, Vicente is taking down the protest signs hung over the wall.  Omar knocks and states he wants to speak with his girlfriend. Chente says she's speaking with her mother and it is best for now if he leaves them alone.  Omar insists.  Chente says have a seat; they'll be done in a bit.  Chente take a minute to ask why such a hurry to get married.  He politely asks to offer some advice, man to man.  Omar refuses and rudely tells him that he's not part of the family and to stay out of it.  Chente gets just as rude and tells him they are all family under that roof and so he's going to listen whether he likes it or not!  Omar tells him again he has no reason to listen to anything Chente says.  Chente tells him to ditch the attitude.  Then Nata arrives.

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 We pick up the tale . . .

1.  Back on St. Germain, Adrián explains to  Tania that he never married for love, only for money. Natalia was very young and had no idea what to do with the huge fortune that her father left her. His original plan was to get control of the money and leave with it all in a year but then their daughters were born and he postponed his plans to see them grow up. He was trapped for  20 years. As for Tania, she felt invisible growing up. Her brother was the "male child" and the clear favorite. She simply never existed for her parents. Even though she strove to be better than her brother in everything, they never noticed. What she wouldn't give for her parents to see their favorite child in  jail. They would be so disappointed that  they would die again but his time from shame. 

2. At Omar's, Andrea admires her engagement ring and takes selfies with it. 

3. Granny Magos is having breakfast with her two grandsons 2XJosé and JuanGa at Chole's. Granny Magos remarks how lovely Chole  always is unlike others . . . as she sees Olga coming to join them.  Granny Magos informs Olga that she has come to discuss something very serious with her grandsons and asks her if she would be kind enough to leave them alone. Chole drags Olga out of there because it is time to open up the shop! 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (concludes Tuesday at midnight)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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⦁      Gustavo has been seen kissing Chole at the exclusive restaurant he normally frequents when rubbing elbows with the upper cruds...er...crust of society.  Fernanda tells him not to bother explaining (or introducing) Chole to her; it's his wife he needs to explain things to, not her.  They leave.  

⦁ At the same time in another part of the city, Willie meets up with Connie at a different restaurant where they discuss the terms of payment for that 3 million worth of blackmail bucks.  He's considerate enough to allow payments till "every single centavo is paid in full."  And then he makes her pay for the meal before she races off in a huff.

⦁ Natalia tells Vicente he's being released soon but he refuses to call a truce.  He reminds her he shouldn't have been held in a cell--like a common criminal; he's an honest man, not like her husband.  That stings like a slap in the face she wasn't expecting and didn't deserve--and he knows it.  But, she agrees with him that, yes, he is a man like few others.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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1. Claudio offers the small woman at the door a few pesos as charity and refuses to listen to her.  She looks angry as he asks God to bless her and closes the door in her face. 

2. The small woman makes her way down the street, hauling a box along with her, to Chente's store. He greets her as his "granny." They hug and he asks when she drive. Why didn't she say she was coming? 

3. As Natalia and Connie are working on her desserts, Claudio is spiking a cup of coffee for himself in the kitchen. 2XJuan comes by looking for Regina who is at school. 

4. Chente comes in with his Granny Magos demanding to know  who  the miserable person was who didn't allow his Granny Magos  come into his house.  Nobody knows anything and Claudio is silent until Granny Magos points him out. He tries to apologize saying he didn't know but Chente cuts him off  by hitting him hard across the face. Claudio ends up unconscious on the floor with Natalia screaming at Chente not to act like a savage! (anger management classes, anyone?) Chente doubles down insisting that nobody messes with his granny. Teresa is afraid that Claudio is dead! Chente wants her and her husband out of this house NOW! Natalia tells him he cannot throw her mother out. He says he can and gives his tantrum an exclamation mark!!  by pushing all of her dessert preparations off the table and onto the floor.  Natalia stares at him in anger as he stares back. 

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⦁ Adrien and Veronica are worried that Pedro is stalling at investing with them.  He suggests she try seducing him.  "--It's a card I'm will to play."  

⦁ Tania drives into Gustavo's repair shop in Mario's car and says she needs it sold.  She is snippy with Valentina and makes a point of calling Gustavo, who tells her to deal with Tina and he'll see about getting a buyer.  

⦁ Tania is roaming the streets of the barrio and unexpectedly runs into Natalia returning home from shopping.  Tania learns Nata lives in the area and the blue house in particular.  Tania sniggers.  "--How far you have fallen!"  Nata asks after Mario to politely change the subject; Tania says he's suffering after Nata's rejection, even though she warned her brother against falling for a women like her.  "--And, according to you, what kind of woman am I?"  "--The kind whose husbands leave them flat because they're worthless."  Nata lets loose with a slap heard 'round the barrio on testy Tania.  (A communal cheer goes up in Viewerville.  Alas, the elation is too short-lived.)  And of course, Olga The Nosy is watching this from afar.  

⦁ Pedro is playing hard to get.  No business is to be discussed while they're all out on the yacht.  It's his wedding present to Javier and her. Oh....okay.  Well, ok.  "--How about you and I get together for dinner--just you and I alone?"  Perfecto.

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1. Tavo enters the house he shares with Connie and all of the lights are off. He turns on some lights and calls her name as he starts to look for her. 

2. Olga's motor mouth is flying calling Natalia a prostitute being in HER Chente's room. Chente tells her to stop but Olga refuses insisting that she will say what she wants to Natalia. Natalia says she doesn't have to but Olga pushes her back as she tries to leave. Olga accuses her of living there just to get a new husband.  Natalia tells her not to talk to her that way and if she is living there it is because of necessity. Olga answers saying it is clearly her necessity to have a man. Chente tells Olga that is enough. She has no business being in this bedroom. (what about NO business being in this house???) Natalia says she is confused because there seems to have been  something between Chente and Olga. Chente insists there is  nothing  between them. Olga clears it up further by saying there is nothing between them because Chente doesn't want there to be. Olga goes on to reveal herself even further talking about how much she loves him and how long she has been waiting for him. An exasperated Natalia leaves to wait for Chente downstairs and Olga smiles. Chente lets Olga have it saying she cannot treat him like he is her property. She starts to pound on his chest and he grabs her wrists and tells her ENOUGH. In tears she asks him why he can't give HER a chance. She gets free as she tells him she has been his friend in the good times and the very worst times. She warns him that Natalia is only there to take advantage of him. He has had it. It is over. He is going to say goodbye to everyone and he wants her out of his house. She sarcastically says just go ahead and run her off. She tells him "Donde pisa leona no deja huella gata." (A cat cannot leave a footprint  where a lioness has been/ A great woman cannot be replaced by one who isn't.) and that she is going to fight for him. She leaves an angry Chente in his room. 

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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 ⦁ The barrio's block party is about to begin.  Chole is about ready to leave with Olga who's fibbed that it's to welcome Vicente's new house partners. Valentina arrives to go with them; Chole suggests Vulga lend Tina one of her dresses.  Tina refuses the offer.  She doesn't want to go "looking like an easy lay." 

⦁ Regina takes a moment to show her mother the finished bedroom renovation of the maid's room: all Pretty In Pink.  Natalia mentions that she's decided to sell desserts to The Club if they'll buy them from her.  Regi says it's great to work at something you love and do well, and cooking is her mama's forte.

⦁ Vicente tucks in the soundly sleeping Benji.  He runs into Natalia in the hallway.  Yes, he's duded up since there's a little party he's going to attend.  She's not awake enough to want to go with him.  She's exhausted and going to bed.  

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 TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tues through Sat)
• 9-11PM -  Hercai, Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1.  Chente and Natalia observe each other in their shared jail cell. 

2. A visibly deflated Tavo tells  Chole that he never thought that having a child was important to her. Well, it is. He admits that he always wanted to be a father, too. She doesn't want to pressure him but at their ages. . . She offers him an alternative to sleeping on the couch in his office when Benja goes home.  Tavo wants to do things the right way so when he is legally free, they will be able to show their love for each other  out in the open. They kiss. 

3. Connie arrives home with "just a gigolo"William who ignores her offer of a drink to get hot and heavy with her. An animated Connie  tells him to wait  a second so she can check that her husband isn't  home. Tavo isn't at home so Connie is very open to Will's advances. 

4. Teresa tells her granddaughters to not worry about their mother because Claudio is using his influence with important people to solve the situation.  Regina is worried about her mother. Andrea feels like they have been cursed. Teresa knocks on wood and says not at all.  Their father made unforgivable decisions and that is what has allowed them to end up here.  Regina tells Teresa she can stay with Claudio in her mother's room and that she and Andrea will stay in the maid's quarters. Andrea complains.

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⦁ Chente packs up Natala and family's belongings and sets their three suitcases out on the street.  

⦁ Constanza has returned to her mega manse and all hell has broken loose "--What is that little so-and-so doing in my house??"  Gustavo says "--I dunno.  It was Claudio who brought her here."  Claudio answers her: "I'm staying mum till you call a doctor for her."  Connie the Cruelheart screams again at him to answer.  Claudio is shaking in his boots and explains Valentina was in his trunk when he drove away and was screaming; when he parked the car he found her.  "--Ahuh!  This gal still works in the repair shop, doesn't she, Gustavo???!!!"

⦁ Andrea and Regina return to Chente's and find the gates locked.  Andi reminds him that the house belongs to their mother.  "--No, you're quite mistaken.  The house is mine and you're not coming in again!"  "--Just wait till my mother comes back!  You're going to get it and how!!"  Chente replies we'll see about that!  Juanga, the fug-ugly whistles smugly. 

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 1. Calculating Connie blames her being the hateful woman that she is on Tavo's failure to show her any kind of affection. Is it too much to ask that he love her? He grabs her hand and agrees it isn't too much to ask.  She poisons the moment when she adds that his love is the only thing that can make up for him not being able to give her baby. He withdraws his hand and looks down in guilt as she observes him from behind her "pained" look. 

2. Everyone is at the supper table getting ready to eat as Chente thinks back on happier times when his Lucía was there.

3. Natalia serves the food and Regina tells JuanGa (who has started eating before everyone was at the table and must have served himself before in the kitchen) it is rude to chew with his mouth open (really?). Chente reminds him they are not cavemen.  Natalia makes a point of thanking Chente and his family for allowing her and her family to stay at the house. She acknowledges the very difficult situation that Chente and especially Benja find themselves in  missing Lucía so much. Chente thanks her. She will do whatever she can to be cooperative.

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Welcome to Page 1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week:  Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 12-1AM -  Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday through Saturday)
• 9-10PM -  Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
• 10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilanes
  

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1. At Benja's silent urging, Chente asks Natalia to stay and talk about a solution  to their problem. Chente offers to make a house payment ahead of time so Natalia has some cash to find a place to stay. JuanGa is less trusting telling him to go ahead and give her payments for  two months  so she can come back with a lawyer and throw him out. Chente  thinks they should just sign the new contract and then he can give her the payment. Natalia cannot accept his offer. 

2. Claudio is leaving some bar drunk as a skunk telling Teresa he is just leaving a  meeting with some colleagues and a government secretary. Martinique awaits them! As he goes to get his car, he finds out it no longer has  a couple of tires, headlights, etc., and is left bawling about Martinique on the street. 

3. Chente and Andrea do not understand why she won't take the deal. After hearing that his place is horrible from Andrea, Chente remarks how her daughter just keeps on offending them. Natalia explains that an early payment does nothing to solve the problems she is facing. She doesn't need a place for a couple of nights. She needs a place to live. This is her house but she is willing to sign the new contract with one condition: they both live in the house.

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 Hi all, below is a quick recap of last night's action:

• First, how cute were the outfits the women wore last night? I loved Natalia's baby blue dress, I have to own Chelo's dress and even Tania's dress was to die for.
• Speaking of Tania, she and Mario go to a notary so that he can transfer his properties to her in order to avoid them being taken by the government, he was also going to transfer what little money he had left to her but he waited too long to do so and his assets were frozen. 
• Tania frets that the government will think she was in on the fraud, oh gosh, why would the government think that dear Tania? Could it be because to everyone it will look like you and your brother were trying to hide assets? As the kids would say, that's suspicious, that's weird.
• Tania tells Mario to run but he refuses to, he is not a criminal and he did nothing wrong. Also, Natalia has his passport.
• Natalia and her daughters leave Mario's home and jump into a taxi but Natalia has no idea where they will go, she makes it clear to her daughters and later to Chente that everyone they know has turned their backs on them, no one will help them.
• Andrea's BIG idea to get out of living in "poverty" is to get her boyfriend to marry her. Yes, teenage marriage is the solution to everything.

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TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)
Here's Page 2 for the week. The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

9-10PM - Hercai: Amor y Venganza 2
10-11PM - Pasión de Gavilantes 2
12-1AM - Parientes a la Fuerza (Tuesday thru Saturday)

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⦁ Tania warns Natalia that if the company cannot resolve the fraud issue, the next best thing for her brother, Mario, is to leave the country.  Mari walks in on the two of them and is surprised to see Nata there.  Nata asks why he's so surprised she is back at the office.  She explains she's gotten a forensic accountant--Enrique--to trace back the accounts and assist them in locating everything.   Tania states she already looked through everything and the others left no trace.  Nobody can find a thing, rest assured!  Mario agrees another set of eyes could probably discover something they all overlooked.  (Especially a forensic accountant doncha think?)  Nata suggests then Tania should probably hand over the necessary passwords to the computer and various accounts so the accountant can get the show on the road already!  Mario asks so why haven't you done that by now?  Tania stalls saying she cannot just go handing out such things willy nilly! "--Besides, I don't take orders from her!"  Mario insists she hand over the passwords then and there.  Trammeling Tania then exits stage right to assist Enrique.

⦁ Across town at Vicente's Auto Parts open-air shop, Olga stops to visit with Chente and to find another way to insert herself....Why wasn't she allowed to join in the fun the night before?  Sorry, just a family thing and Benji is still not talking.  Vulga says she enjoys helping out with the housework and Benji, and sweetly places her hand over his (as Viewerville gets a load of her crazy nail polish).  He pulls away and says he really doesn't want to take advantage of her good will (let alone her willing).  Chente says there's only one woman his child wants to see (and it ain't her) so being ill, her being there will only disturb him more and .....Ugha won't stop insisting...she gives him a hug and says she will remain invisible, only being there when Benji's away at school cuz she only wants to help them both through this difficult time --Somebody throw the dude an oxygen mask and a full tank of O2.  He's being suffocated!  

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